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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:56 PM Original message |
Is Obama authorized to wage war in Afghanistan? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. We are a nation of laws, not men......when convenient and politically expedient. k&r |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. "against those nations" "prevent any future acts" |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. We're not waging war against any nation. n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. nation, organization, person |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. ah so you support the Bush Doctrine |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. but, but this is a new and different mission |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. nope, it isn't |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That's what the authorization says |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. the idea of preemptive attack is the core concept of the Bush Doctrine |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Dennis Kucinich voted for this authorization |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. actually, there was... it was used to justify the invasion of Afghanistan |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm not convinced his nation-building defense of the government in Kabul is part of that |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. Yoo Hoo! There was a war being waged in Afghanistan when Obama was sworn in - FYI |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. now, most of it is waged against resistance to our occupation |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. The existence of war when Obama was sworn in is irrelevant. |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
10. Is your question a constitutional one? |
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optimator (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
11. A Just Cause would seek a Declaration of War |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. authortization from Congress is nice to have |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Yes and no. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
14. no, but it does`t matter |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
20. If you read the language, it's pretty clear he does |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. The Taliban is a clear group of people |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Probably organized as the Baptists, not sure as organized as the Catholics |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I'm speaking of philosophy and organization |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. The underlying belief system doesn't include harboring Osama Bin Laden |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Ah, I see your point |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
21. Let's declare war. Then we can call it a war.Otherwise resource protection adventures. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
24. The precedent was set during the reign of The Little Emperor- |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. Details, details?? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
30. Yes. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 07:44 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. The President can add or subtract troops in an ongoing fight... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Congress could use the power of the purse to make it more difficult for the President to |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
33. Does it matter anymore? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
34. Hey, when Congress declares war, it's his job to prosecute it. |
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