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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 06:59 PM
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Sarah Palin discusses Godly leadership - a post for people concerned about the theocrats.
Here is a post from the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association wherein SP seriously milks the religious folk. She's trying to sound very reasonable and appealing here, calculating that Billy Graham is revered by many, even in the mainstream of religion.

Palin the shape-shifter.

http://www.billygraham.org/News_Article.asp?ArticleID=730
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:02 PM
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1. Here's some tasty excerpts....
"Our video team also spent time talking with Governor Palin about leadership. "I believe our country has been touched by God," said Palin, "because when we formed our union, leaders back then dedicated our country to God and said that we would seek His will for our great nation.

"I think if we could get back to that humbleness," she added, "with that kind of contrite spirit, I think that we would be able to be provided more of the answers to so many of the great challenges that we’re facing."

Gov. Palin noted that it takes Godly counsel, prayer and "a collective humble heart of a nation seeking God’s hand of protection and His blessings and prosperity. I think if we could get back to that, our country will be a safer, more prosperous and healthier nation.""

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:04 PM
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2. Yeah, Sarah knows all about humility, doesn't she?
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 07:04 PM by Blue_In_AK
But you know, the people who aren't paying attention, who only see what they want to see, have no idea what a snake she is. We're still suffering the fallout up here.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:05 PM
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4. Can you take her back? I can't stand to hear her warble anymore
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:12 PM
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10. We don't want her back,
believe me. Even her former friends are turning on her in droves. See this op ed from someone who worked on her campaign for governor in 2006:

http://www.adn.com/opinion/compass/story/1040382.html



<snip>

Every one of us knows someone like this: They always find someone else to blame for their own mistakes or shortcomings and never take responsibility for their own actions.

Sarah Palin's new book is a classic study in this form of self-delusion. It is never attractive when we see it in co-workers, for instance. It is even more distasteful when we see it in public figures.

Her attacks on John Bitney and others in her administration and the John McCain campaign are petty and mean-spirited. And this toward people who worked day and night to help her in her campaigns.

Her attacks on Bitney in her book are just plain false and show her basic misunderstanding of how government works. She castigated him for saying he was "friends" with some legislators and so because of that she had to wonder "whose side he was on."

Well, to start with, the Legislature is not the enemy. They are an equal, elected, constitutional branch of government with just as much legitimacy as the executive branch, and the branches work together to form public policy.

<snip>

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:13 PM
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18. Warble?
I think it's a bit more of a siren song.

You know, the old-timey Nazi-prison camp "a-OOOOOOga" sirens.

Either that or the ancient Greek sirens. :hide:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:05 PM
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5. Well, she is touched, alright. nt
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:07 PM
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8. That woman is out of her ever-lovin' mind.
If she ever get anywhere near the White House, it is every man, woman and child for themselves. We will all be running for our lives. With her in charge, this whole country would be shut down inside of six months, if that.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 06:06 PM
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31. +1
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:04 PM
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3. We SHOULD be at war with our own theocrats.
That's the one that's worth fighting.

And at this point, I don't think it will be a cold war.

I just hope that sane people actually win it.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:07 PM
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7. These people are quite frightening to me.
They've weaseled their way into the very heart of our government. They are just as threatening to our "freedom" as any Taliban or al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:13 PM
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11. VIDEO: Her supporters. "She stands for what America is!"
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:16 PM
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14. That's what I'm afraid of. That she stands for what America has become.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:15 PM
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13. I'd say the fundies are a MUCH bigger threat.
At worst, al Qaeda could pull off some terrible attack and kill a lot of people. But as many have now pointed out, they'd be hard pressed to match the mortality numbers of our own broken health care system.

At any rate, they won't be taking over our government and writing our laws.

The American, Xtian fundies are way, way, way more dangerous than anyone else anywhere in the world.

They are the enemy.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:24 PM
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15. You are absolutely correct.
I understated considerably.

The reason I think we have to keep an eye on Sarah, as much as we'd like to ignore her, is that she resonates so strongly with these very dangerous people. Jerry Falwell, that Hagee guy, Haggard, all those C Street idiots, on and on -- none of them have Sarah's physical attractiveness (if you go in for her particular brand) or her charisma (again, if you like her brand). While she may not ever get close to the White House, as long as she has a voice, she's going to cause trouble for us. And she will draw followers.

We laugh at her at our peril.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:28 PM
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16. Agreed.
:fistbump:
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:00 PM
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17. And, her path upwards is one that we should pay attention to
The right-wing has made a concerted (and successful) infiltration into small government, weaseling their way onto school boards, small town councils, and the like. This is bad enough when they are setting policy on everything from teaching evolution to unionized workforces, but as a platform to higher office, could have disastrous results.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:02 AM
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30. If it isn't her they will dig up another like her to take her place politically
so I too believe in keeping an eye on Palin. Besides they don't need full power to make a mess of things, water down good legislation, waste time and money on bad like abstinence only education and just generally stir up hate and paranoia.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:24 PM
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20. Amen
n/t
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TokenQueer Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:00 PM
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26. Exactly!
I made a similar off the cuff comparison in a ridiculous thread that spurred a bizarre push back.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7137842&mesg_id=7138034

Glad to hear I am not alone in this comparison...

:fistbump:
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 11:31 AM
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33. I have been castigated for years for saying that our home-grown taliban worry me more than the other
ones. they are HERE, vocal, and very, very dangerous.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:25 PM
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21. At the very least
I would be surprised if it didn't involve a McCathy-esque witch hunt on one side or the other. :(
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:06 PM
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6. Does she talk about where quitting fits into God's plan?
Jesus had some amusing things to say about people who put their hand to the plow and looked back, or kings who made plans but couldn't or didn't follow through on them. Quitting when the going gets tough or because one acquired a taste for the Big Time doesn't seem to be very Godly leadership to me.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:08 PM
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9. Creepy
There is a passage in the bible, in Corinthians I think, about keeping one's faith private, not standing on the street corner yammering on about it.

Sarah and all the rest of the rw fundies should check it out.

I find this obsequious attention to fundamentalist religion nauseating. Keep it to youself Sarah.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:14 PM
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12. How does she feel about Catholicism? How does that fit in with the Fundies?
Just wondering!!!!
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:15 PM
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19. Gas fireplace.
:rofl:
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:40 PM
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22. Talk about flip flop and John Kerry this nut case Palin is the tip top
flip flop. When she was governor of Alaska she said that church and state should be two separate entities. The same thing about that death panel she screamed about and....had proclaimed a day such as that in Alaska. So where's she gonna flip de flop next.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:45 PM
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29. John Kerry is one of the most consistent legaslators in Congress
The fact is that on nearly every issue his position now is consistent with his position in 1984 when he entered Congress. There are echoes of his 1971 speech to the Senate and his 1966 speech at Yale in foreign policy speeches made in the last several years. He has been a solid environmentalist since the 1970s. He has had a 100% record on all kinds of civil rights throughout his entire career.

This was a RW smear and it was based on Kerry voting for a Kerry/Biden version of the funding that would have paid for the $87 billion by rolling back the tax cuts for the wealthy - then voting against the version that added it to the debt. Two different bill, two different positions - and he had already explained that in detail.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:40 PM
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23. Read the Talk to Action blog for some fantastic insights
into Palin's church & her beliefs.

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/11/25/153354/21
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/11/25/171232/34
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/11/19/174310/41

Talk to Action is the best website around for a insight to the movements of the religious right.

http://www.talk2action.org/
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:38 PM
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24. The humbleness of Neiman Marcus clothes and your face on a bus.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:37 PM
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28. which she doesn't ride in, except for from the city limits to wherever her book signing
is to be held, she travels by $4K@hour private jet.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:42 PM
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25. And oh wait, how much was her make up person paid? That was pretty humble also too.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:07 PM
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27. May she soon be with her precious lord
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 11:29 AM
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32. can't rec, will kick for this important piece
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 11:36 AM
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34. Wait a second
Didn't I read here recently that she's hitching rides on Samaritan's Purse's airplane to get to her book signings?

Samaritan's Purse is run by Franklin Graham
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 11:56 AM
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35. Sounds like Franklin Graham is doing the milking
Edited on Mon Dec-07-09 12:22 PM by Brother Buzz
Billy Graham Evangelistic Association is zip without Billy, and Franklin and the organization will slide into obliteration when Billy passes on. He's attempting to reinvent the outfit to fit his needs and survival. Sarah darling may just be the meal ticket her closest buddy, Franklin, needs.
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