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Sat Dec-05-09 12:45 PM
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All In All, I Am VERY Pleased With The Week We/Obama Have Had |
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Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 01:04 PM by stopbush
Yep, for all the peace marching and anti-war $ donating I've done in my life, I approve of Obama's decision to ramp up our efforts in Afghanistan. He's dealing with what he inherited, and he has found a way to address the issue while simultaneously putting the generals on notice. That timeline he laid down is as much a prod to our military to get their act together as it was to Karzai and the Kabul Krazies.
The economy is turning around, and I say this as someone who is currently between jobs.
The banks continue to pay back the bailout money they received.
Health care reform - while not certain - is still alive, as is the public option. I think Obama may be engaged in a very lengthy rope-a-dope strategy on getting a true public option passed.
Obama is moving forward on restoring science and math to their rightful place in the education curriculum.
Obama is getting out into the country and engaging in an honest dialogue with We, The People.
Obama continues to make loud noises that he will upset the status quo, especially when it comes to the financial sector and the way they have done business in the past. Reform IS on the way.
Considering the major issues Obama is taking on, his slide in the polls is a blip on the radar screen, and a trend that will reverse itself as more and more success arises from the policies he's already put on place and will put in place.
I am amazed at how utterly BRAVE this president is. Brave at the very personal level of dealing with the attitudes of a country that has yet to rise above the racism that is and always has been our great national shame (imagine, it's 2009 and you're hated because of the color of your skin!). Brave to take unpopular positions on either side of the aisle because he believes he has the right solution. Brave because he seems to be doing his job without spending 50% of his time worrying about whether or not he'll be re-elected.
Do I agree with everything he's doing? No. I'm not down with the Justice Dept looking to give war criminals a free pass, and there are other things that I would like to see done differently. But all in all, the man is making me proud that I voted for him. Count me out of those Ds who are already looking for alternatives to President Obama.
And, as a bonus, Sarah Palin is out there acting like an absolute clown and doing major damage to the already damaged-beyond-repair republican brand. What could be better?
Maybe I'm getting too old, but IMHO, Obama is already on his way to being the best president we've had since I came of voting age back in 1972.
Flame away.
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:05 PM
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4. What a refreshing OP. Many thanks....n/t |
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:05 PM
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5. We have (I hope) 7 more years of progress ahead of us. |
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:06 PM
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6. Obama is a coward. Carter had more balls than he did. |
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Seriously, how can you spew this bullshit when he keeps on bowing down to the GOP and corporate interests?
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:11 PM
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10. Unintentionally hilarious reply. The OP gives a thoughtful assessment and you throw out a response |
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that reads much like a five year old calling someone a poopie head and capping it off with "I'm rubber and you're glue".
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:13 PM
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13. "Thoughtful assessment"? Try "fawning puff piece with no basis in reality" |
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:11 PM
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11. I say it because I've been around for awhile and have seen what passes |
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for a political spine in this country - and based on that, what I wrote is far from BS.
Enjoy your fair-weathered D misery. I'll see you on the flip side in a few months.
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Sat Dec-05-09 04:25 PM
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32. Sorry - the GOP has opposed EVERY fucking thing Obama has proposed |
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and insurance industry is vociferously opposing the HRC bill it supposedly "wrote".
can't have it both ways!
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:09 PM
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:10 PM
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8. You are living in a dream world . |
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The Afgan escalation is just more senseless murder with some pupet govenment the people don't want. The health ins so called re- form has become so disrorted that the end result may be even worse , they when about it all the wrong way .
All I see are bills being rushed through to make history.
The job thing will not creat jobs , all we see are jobs still going away and low wage jobs with some un-defined idea of jobs saved or created.
You bank on hope not reality.
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:15 PM
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14. Oh, I'm all about reality, my friend. |
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But dreams can and do influence the course reality takes.
Sorry to see that you've accepted the negative spin on the Obama presidency and have apparently lost your ability to hope and dream, even as the first fruits of those dreams begin to make themselves known.
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Sat Dec-05-09 04:32 PM
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35. I have accepted anything or the spin . |
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Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 04:39 PM by blues90
No what I look at is the history and reality of this country and where we are now. 61 years of life. Now suddenly Obama appears and your beach ball is all pumped up ready for the big change.
Just what fruits of your dreams are making themselves known?
Ever notice Obamas time line on Afgahnistan and the time the health ins re-form takes affect are the election cycles?
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Sat Dec-05-09 02:35 PM
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25. Your user name has always suited you. |
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Your take on just about everything is always so sad and blue. I'm sorry life sucks so bad.
As for me, nothing overshadows the fact that I have a smart, caring, honest President who is doing what he can to fix some horrible messes.
And Dubya the Idiot Asshole Bastard is GONE GONE GONE!
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Sat Dec-05-09 04:24 PM
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31. I've seen quite a few presidents come and go |
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All with their promises that faded away, or their lies realized.
If you want to hope fine.
Every post I see praising Obama also has the reference to GWB. If this is most of what you base things on , well GW really lowered the bar to the point where anyone would look better now.
You make it appear that one man Obama has all the control and all by himself will bring your dreams to life. Yet you dismiss the reality that most of the people who make the laws and rules are bought and paid for by corporations.
The day we don't have a corrupt two party system is the day we will have something to work with that sticks , I'm not holding my breath .
By the way the Blues part has to do with music not my political out look.
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:11 PM
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9. That "timeline" is a ray of sunshine to the bad guys. |
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They now know when the real fun will begin. They can build supplies and people and just wait until the Americans have gone. Now they don't have to waste resources on wrecking the country right now.
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:19 PM
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16. That country is fucked no matter when we leave. |
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Their government will probably last less than a year before it collapses.
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:30 PM
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20. No dissagreement from me. nt |
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Sat Dec-05-09 02:05 PM
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24. You've bought the RW/military spin. |
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Following your "logic," wars can never end because the bad guys just wait it out. That assumes that no damage will be done to their capabilities in the meanwhile.
That ray of sunshine you mention is the ray that those of us who want this war to end have been waiting for.
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Sat Dec-05-09 03:44 PM
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28. Damage? You mean like carpet bombing their military? |
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You already know the enemy over there looks just all the other civilians. They will just go about their daily lives until we leave. There will be no obliterating their forces, destroying the communications, or blowing up fuel supplies. It's like trying wage war against gangs in a urban area. Forget it. The time line serves notice to the bad guys of how much longer they have to put up with us trying to police them. Then it will be "game on". I'm betting on warlords trying to "out brutalize" each other in everyplace except the big cities.
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Sat Dec-05-09 04:28 PM
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33. Bullshit, Obama s NOT carpet bombing anyone - anywhere |
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Sat Dec-05-09 04:49 PM
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38. Do you pay attention to anything at all? Or is it just my post you can't comprehend? nt |
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Sat Dec-05-09 04:56 PM
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39. Obama is not carpet bombing anyone |
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Nixon and LBJ were fine and dandy carpet bombers and used scads of B-52s and millions of tons of bombs to make those raids on North Vietnam.
Now THAT was carpet bombing.
Obama isn't doing anything remotely like that.
Not even close
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:12 PM
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12. Brave is not a word I would used nt. |
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34. Be brave like Obama and tell us what word(s) you would use |
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:16 PM
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I'm not sure who "we" is, but I can't agree.
I had a shitty week, and my December 1st paycheck is nearly gone on unexpected vet bills. No xmas, no wood to keep the place warm this month. No end in sight to the vet bills, either.
There is very little Obama has done that I have agreed with, and this week is no exception.
I don't agree with escalating the war on terror. I've never supported the "war on terror" in any form, and I still don't.
His education policy, which is not affected much by talking about math and science or by holding a science fair at the WH, is a weapon of public ed destruction that makes GWB look kind and gentle.
The banks are using bailout money to outsource jobs.
I think we'll get any kind of authentic, helpful public option when pigs fly.
Obama's first term is way too familiar to me; it feels like the Reagan era, and I hate it with a fiery passion.
Obama is a disaster for anyone who is left-of-center; a gift for neocons and neolibs.
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:19 PM
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17. Guess you won't be changing your username to "stopobama" then... |
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imo Obama is pissing away his golden opportunity with bipartisanshit that supports corporate/right-wing/military industrial complex interests. Brave is not the word I would use, though I am somewhat heartened by his work re green energy.
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:25 PM
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18. No. I won't be changing my moniker any time soon. |
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You're pleased with his green energy work? Hmm? Aren't you afraid he'll just turn around and hand all the advances being made to the corporate/right-wing/military-industrial complex?
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:28 PM
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19. He'll cave to some extent, sure. There are powerful interests involved... |
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Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 01:39 PM by polichick
...that will make the healthcare industry folks look like preschoolers.
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Sat Dec-05-09 01:46 PM
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22. What are you smoking? My state lost more jobs than anyin the nation and just took a 700 m loan from |
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Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 01:47 PM by saracat
Bof A to survive. The retailers garnered zero benefit from Black Friday, The Senate is negotiating the removal of the PO, Another version of Stupak is being proposed by the Senate, further jepordizing reproductive rights, the President announced we have "limited funds for the jobless, and we are engaging in troop escalation in Afganistan to go after the 100 AQ who are there., meanwhile Duncan Arne is doing his best to punish teachers and dismantle the public education ystem in order to install a charter school system that would benefit only special interests. MY week hasn't been as good as yours apparently.
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Sat Dec-05-09 02:03 PM
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23. Unless you're currently unemployed - as am I - then I don't see |
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how YOUR week could have been worse than mine.
The day that me personally having a bad week causes me to desert my president is the day I start looking for my spine.
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Sat Dec-05-09 02:37 PM
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26. I don't think she posted about personal matters nt. |
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Sat Dec-05-09 07:54 PM
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41. Well both my husbandand I have been unemployed for over 4 years an. His was one of the first jobs |
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Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 08:02 PM by saracat
outsourced and after 23 years we were just a bit short for our health insurance.So we live off of what would have been our retirement and almost all goes to health insurance and doctors. And my spine is intact. I believe in speaking up when the circumstances warrant it and this has not been a good week for Democrats, imho.
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Sat Dec-05-09 02:45 PM
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27. Kick,Kick,Kick&Recommended.. |
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Sat Dec-05-09 04:20 PM
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29. He's doing fine considering... |
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the mes he was handed. He has the patience more around this board could use.
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Sat Dec-05-09 04:22 PM
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30. K&R - good week for Obama - bad week for Obama bashers and whiners |
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Sat Dec-05-09 04:44 PM
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Nice to read a positive thread about our President and his policies for a change.
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Bad week for military families who will be apart just that much longer, and that's best case scenario. Bad week for the Afghani and Pakistani civilians who are going to die. Bad week for the Nobel Prize committee. Bad week for change.
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Sat Dec-05-09 05:52 PM
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40. For all my antiwar feeling, and horror at the announcement of an escalation... |
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...this is obviously a war that Americans want to see fought and won. Or once wanted, and are now still afraid to give up on.
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