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ls317 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:16 PM
Original message
And this fuckhead is replacing Don Imus
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 07:17 PM by ls317
http://mediamatters.org/items/200701160011?f=i_related


On the June 20, 2006, edition of Scarborough Country, Smerconish trivialized reports of detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq as "naked pyramid pictures" and at the Pentagon detention facility at Guantánamo Bay as "play Christina Aguilera music a bit too loud."
On the April 10, 2006, edition of Scarborough Country, Smerconish suggested that "maybe law enforcement ought to step in" at pro-immigration demonstrations and consider "gathering ... up" illegal immigrants. Smerconish wondered why there was "zero discussion" of "gathering them up" at the demonstrations, when "ll I keep hearing is how would we ever find them?" He then suggested that law enforcement officials are being hypocritical by refusing to "gather[] ... up" illegal immigrants because they would "step in and do something about" a rally of "pot smokers," who "wanted decriminalization" of marijuana, or "scofflaws" with unpaid parking tickets.
On the April 4, 2006, broadcast of the Factor, Smerconish claimed that political correctness has made the United States "a nation of sissies," and that "sissification" and "limp-wristedness" are "compromising our ability to win the war on terror." (He later blamed "the sissification of America" for the sentencing of Al Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui to life in prison instead of death for his role in the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.)
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flying_monkeys Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:21 PM
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1. Oh Goody :)
Scratch that show off my morning list.....


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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #1
75. You're pleased about this? Then go to the FIRE RUSH / BECK THREAD:
Oops! It's ARCHIVED!

Looks like the Imus bitchers failed to do something constructive yet again.

Whatever you do... don't apply the Imus principle to Beck, or Rush. That would be too consistent, and everybody knows consistency is the hallmark of little minds, right?
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #75
80. Ummm
They said they were scratching it off their list. In what world does that mean "pleased"?
Lee
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:27 PM
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86. Huh? Please explain nt
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #86
88. They said
"Oh Goody" and then they said they could scratch the show off their morning list. You said..."You're pleased about this....!"

They meant they weren't thus the scratching it off their list of shows.
Lee
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:22 PM
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2. And ALLLL the people were so happy to see imus go.....
be careful what you wish for.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:30 PM
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5. This country certainly doesn't need 3hrs of rants against Bush and Cheney and fundraisers
for incapacitated soldiers and their families and kids with cancer who want to have fun, and a promoter of green awareness, and anti-chemical pollutants - and someone who actually apologizes profusely and sincerely for their wrong acts for a change and does it straight to the faces of those he wronged.

Nope - we can't have that in this country.

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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. oh no way.....now theyre going to really love smerkonich.
unbelievable
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:55 PM
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53. I agree
those were my thoughts EXACTLY.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. St. Imus
You can say any filthy thing you want about women and minorities - as long as you say "yeah troops" and promote your wife's products - while calling her a green ho.

This is Imus worship is really some shameful shit.
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flying_monkeys Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. What was it
That inspired all these loyal Imus fans?

I don't get it.


Maybe the hat?

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #15
22. Musta been that he said Cheney should be hung for treason.
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 07:53 PM by blm
Just warmed the cockles.

Not a fan - I just believe his apology was sincere. And he's being scapegoated for the millions of people who've made casual use of that same language for years.
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flying_monkeys Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #22
26. In many ways, hate radio started with Imus.
Maybe his exit will pave the way for more to follow.


I am unaware of any other radio personality who called a group of female college basketball players "nappy headed hos". If there were any more other than Imus, please tell me their names. I will happily hold all accountable who used those words applied to a group like that over the airwaves.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #15
27. Misguided loyalties
In some circles.

If he had just apologized and shut up, maybe. But he had to go on and on, picking fights and whining. Then I heard about the hiring McGuirk to tell "n***** jokes" and that was the end for me. I can't understand why anybody defends him either.
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flying_monkeys Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. Nahh, even then he would have been toast.
He crossed the line of no-going-back when he aimed his barb at college players who weren't Public Figures. A thousand apologies couldn't have helped him after that.


Looks like this new personality radio dude is going to target undocumented immigrants. That is a safer group to dis, I guess - - or are they? Lots of people on both sides of the Divide are sympathetic to undocumented workers...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #11
19. Not Saint Imus - he's Sinner Imus.
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 07:52 PM by blm
And I am of the belief that he is disgusted with himself and is sincere in his apology. It has nothing to do with whether he was wrong or not - he was as wrong as can be. And he admitted it.

One man taking the constant hits after apologizing profusely and when millions have made these terms casual usage is just not right. At some point after the team looked him in the eye and made their determination, the constant hitting at him for an acknowledged serious wrong is just wrong in itself.

Have you ever heard REALLY bigoted people apologize? No. Rush and his ilk just continue with no pressure to say or do the right thing. Imus did. Rush and Beck keep their jobs. Imus does the right thing for a change and apologizes sincerely to the victims in person and loses everything - what does THAT tell you?

I don't disagree with your position because I understand it - I just don't share your position on this, because I happen to believe that Imus is being sincere. I knew him casually some years ago, and he is an extremely straightforward person for ill and for good. So - I believe his apology and his anger at himself and I think the women he insulted have made that same determination.
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. Theyr gonna be begging for Imus....
once they get a load of this KNUCLESCRAPER.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. "stretch marks on his mouth"
I think that makes your input pretty clear.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. He blamed everyone but himself
He went on Sharpton's show to supposedly apologize - and then picked a fight with him. Good grief. He whined about the supposed hypocrisy - while saying 'we can't whine'. That was the WORST public apology I have ever seen. This is a history - not an old man disconnect from pop culture.

And, of course the Rutgers women accepted his apology, what else could they do.

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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #21
25. No problem....
we now have the ultimate shrub suck -up.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:59 PM
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29. At least there's no confusion
Probably be better than having someone who pretends he's an "independent" and then spends all his time degrading liberals.
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #29
33. Suuuuuuuure......
imus ripped * relentlessly and called for dickface cheney to be tried for treason.


you may be happy....i'm not.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. lol
Suuuuure - that's the ticket - cheney - treason - yeah. That's it.


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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #35
60. I wish I could laugh.....
i just dont think having a rush-wannabe is very funny.

sorry
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #29
63. He spent most of his time attacking the current administration's policies.
And, the way our soldiers were being treated. I watched the show consistently for about three months and I never heard him just degrade liberals, everybody could be a target of Imus. Oh, He always refereed to himself as a Conservative- a moderate one.
In recent months he had had on more Democrats.
I wonder if we will see real intelligent Democrats on Smerconish's show or just the ones that are easily mocked?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #63
67. Maybe you agreed with him
Which is why you couldn't hear the smears. Who was the right mocking the last 3 years? Who was on Imus all the time? Who did Imus tell to shut up, instead of putting out the truth?

The only thing Imus helped in the political arena in the last 3 years was raising money for troops. That's it. Scarborough playing Letterman's Bush clips every night did more to hurt Bush than Imus ever did.

Any time I've been up late, with a project to complete or something, and Imus has been on - I've had to turn the shit off. There wasn't a day that went by that some kind of ugly puke came out of that show. I do not know how you watched it consistently. It was just vile. I don't expect Smerconish to be any better, but at least nobody will be duped into thinking he's the voice of the independent thinker.

Eveything that's been posted that the man said, and you STILL defend him. It is honestly more than I can even begin to comprehend. It's right up there with being a Bircher or LaRouchie, in my book.
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flying_monkeys Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #19
28. Technically, he lost his job before he told them in person.
If the players had rejected his apology, then you'd be okay that he was fired?
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #5
84. The lesson here is never apologize -- it is a sign of LIBERAL weakness -- and the mob
And the mob can be easily influenced to tear down whoever the media wishes.

They are like God to the TV-addicted "politically aware" masses.
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:53 AM
Response to Reply #84
99. Exactly.....
look who benefits from all this.


kkkarl is laughing at us.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #2
82. It's not OUR fault
Just because we wanted that racist sexist pig of a man gone doesn't mean we are responsible for the network hiring another racist sexist pig.
Lee
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:37 AM
Response to Reply #2
95. Ain't That The Fucking Truth! (nt)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:23 PM
Response to Original message
3. you had me at "Fuckhead"
:toast:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:28 PM
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4. Hey, free speech
People had a chance to make a huge stink about the garbage on the air, AND people like Smerconish, but nooooo - had to jump on the 'blame the rappers' bandwagon.

Every time you guys bitch about one of these right wing asshats - I'm just going to say "free speech".

Fuckheads. Who're the fuckheads for real???
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. People couldnt be happier when imus was railroaded...
they wanted blood and they got it...now we got a FUCKING KNUCLESCRAPER LIKE SMERKONICH....or however you spell it.
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ls317 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Mouthbreeder is more like it
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Hey FREE SPEECH
I don't see any difference between Imus and this asshat anyway. You wanted hate on the air, you got it. What's the problem.
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. SMERCONICH IS A * SUCK UP EXTRORDINAIRE !!
he has stretch marks on his mouth from sucking up to shit-for-brains.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #6
31. I'm STILL glad he's gone. nt
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. And the FUNDIE'S ARE ELATED !!
another wing-nut on the air.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. Calling Hillary C a "tuna-licking twat," was vulgar, immature and sexist.
The new fellow might be only two out of three of those. Perhaps he'll also be vulgar, immature and sexist.

I'll take the chance.
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. Well you and the wing nuts seem happy he's gone......
and this a$$wipe is in.....i'm not.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. Imus also was an "asswipe." I can tell you and Imus have potty language in common. nt
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 07:28 AM
Response to Reply #44
59. "potty language " ??
right....attsck me rather thsn resalize what we have now.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #39
48. We dropped the ball
I think the left could have pushed for Tom Joyner or someone more diverse - but because we bought into the 'blame the rappers' nonsense, we lost our opportunity to stand up for diversity. Really pathetic.
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #48
62. We were played like a cheap fiddle...
look who is happy with imus gone.......

the fundie wing nuts and their supporters
probably the rnc
probably rush and his wannabes
rev al and jj



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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #62
64. and you're still playing n/t
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #48
90. And Tom told Tavis Smiley that MSNBC had called him
and he was debating whether or not to go through the screen test or whatever they do before they hire people to do the simulcasts.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #90
91. I was hoping for him
I really think if we had made more noise, MSNBC wouldn't have thought Imus only appealed to right wingers. All week long Teresa talked about the power of our dollars and pressuring the investors when you want change. Well we never do that. Every time somebody wants to organize a boycott, somebody will pop up and say that would hurt someone, somewhere, and the idea dies. The right doesn't buy into that garbage. They are relentless when they want their way. I'm afraid until we believe in our own power, nothing will ever change.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #4
76. Sandnsea, we could've used your help on the FIRE RUSH / BECK thread.
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 03:10 PM by Leopolds Ghost
I even outlined an action plan. No dice with the group of do-nothings out there.

who complained that no one should have been fired, therefore
if one person got fired, the answer is do nothing and BITCH.

Passive consumers -- couldn't take the streets to save a life.


Better to let everyone on the left get fired when they do something wrong
(Imus, Rather) than "legitimize the principle" by getting the real racists fired.

You have people on this very thread saying they'd prefer open racists on the air "just to be fair" to them, since "you know" THEY will never get fired. Beaten spouse syndrome.
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #76
81. BWAHAHAHA
.
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jeff uppy Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:35 PM
Response to Original message
10. This just reinforces my view
of why they chose now to take out Imus.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:38 PM
Response to Original message
13. Instead of cursing the darkness
we should be lighting candles. I think it's the Tweetyshitter who introduced the Smirking Con to MSNBC and now the wound has festered into full blown gangrene. Just stop watching MSNBC and the other cable filth and corruption and start supporting FSTV and LINK TV as well as Pacifica Radio. Turn on to and tune in to alternate media, and drop out of crap TV.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #13
54. Sage advice, anln!
That works on so many levels..Don't curse the darkness..light the damn candle.

All those freakshows are dinosaurs.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:38 PM
Response to Original message
14. The only decent thing on MSNBC is Olbermann
and maybe Allyson Stewart. But that's like two hours out of the line up. Do they not take into consideration that Olbermann's ratings have gone up the most of any of their hosts? On the other hand, Olbermann wasn't as outspoken at the beginning of his run. Does anyone think that the Olbermann of today would be hired by MSNBC?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. Yes
And I think you like many give MSNBC a lot of undeserved Shit.
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ls317 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. Countdown is the only thing I watch on MSNBC
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. I watch MSNBC for a lot of the day.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #18
50. Me too, even though it sucks
It's an awful network, Imus was the worst of it as far as bigotry and ridicule goes. But still, most of it is just ridiculous right of center manure. I hope you don't think you're getting a balanced picture from that claptrap, you're seriously not. And this is not one from the left of the left speaking here either.

I have it on while I work. At least don't make me mad enough to want to throw a shoe at the TV, can't afford that!
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #14
23. That's an interesting question
Hmm. Would Keith been hired by MSNBC? Hmm. Well, they'd just got done with a purge of Donahue because he came off as a bit "nutty" - as said by Bill O'Reilly, who proved himself to be a fucking lunatic against the very guy who was there to support him (Geraldo).

I say this, as a person who has not had cable for the last 9 months, and I'm not saying this as one of those "I haven't had tv for the last 9 months" types, but MSNBC was at an all-time low for those hours when they brought in Keith. Chris Matthews was getting killed by Fox. Probably still is. MSNBC had nothing to lose, but Keith is a good commentator, and interviewer, and actually sticks to facts, and doesn't talk over his guests (that I know of) and is good looking and clean and smart and articulate and has good teeth.

Would they hire him now? Of course not! Let's say someone else was behind this ratings surge. Why would they hire a relative unknown and wreck it? They wouldn't. Never.

What they did do back then is hire Keith. When the O'Really and Hannity types took shots at him he fought right back, he exposed their lies clearly and consistently. That's why he has his audience, he earned it.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #14
77. Olbermann was deliberately hired as the "Howard Beale" of MSNBC. That's how his bosses put it.
An escape valve. Watch the movie NETWORK.

"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"

Except thanks to Olbermann, you will take it. And like it.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #14
78. Olbermann was deliberately hired as the "Howard Beale" of MSNBC. That's how his bosses put it.
An escape valve. Watch the movie NETWORK.

"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"

Except thanks to Olbermann, you will take it. And like it.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:02 PM
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30. If someone held a gun to your head, would you choose Smerconish or Imus?
Sheesh...
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. I'd throw them both in the crapper
and get someone else.

Imus has made a career out of saying terrible things, apologizing and then doing it again. Why believe him this time?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #30
37. Smerconish
Get your hate-on - no foolin' around.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:12 PM
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38. They should fire the head of MSNBC - their ratings will nose dive.
They screwed up - big time.
Smerconish doesn't even have a personality.
He has the personality of a head of cabbage.



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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:16 PM
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40. And what branch of the military did Smerconish fight in to warrant calling
Americans "sissies."
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:19 PM
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41. Of course they were going to replace Imus with someone more to the right.
And people seem to forget Imus was a registered Republican who bashed Dems all the time and kissed Cheneys ass when he was on his show. I knew he was going to be replaced with someone worse. That damn liberal media for ya.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:25 PM
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43. Something you can do, if it's not too much trouble
I have sent off so many emails to:

viewerservices@msnbc.com

to ask them to give a liberal, in the style of Olberman, one hour of political talk-TV for one of Imus's hours. Apparently, my few emails didn't make alot of difference. But, if everyone on DU did the same, well, the campaign might make a difference. I even suggested hosts in some of the emails, and you could too. Phil Donahue, anyone? (yes, I know the history)

I'm sure this is a trial balloon, this thing with Smerconish, and they will be watching his ratings.

How many email accounts do you have? Send one from each, and make it to the attention of Steve Capus. He said he reads his emails. Please?
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:02 PM
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45. I never watched Imus...
..and I dont give a fuck who Smerconish is either. Slanderous pundits who are only seated to aid the BushCo. Nazi agenda are not worth listening to let alone look at. They are ignorant, hate mongering, lying dip shits who are so unamerican it makes the News Company who seats them look even worse then they already do.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:02 PM
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46. The tyranny of ratings will take care of this ass-clown
no ad bucks = no smirk on us
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:33 PM
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47. Better re-check your link, cause you got the wrong network in your post title
The story is about CNN looking at a show for Smerconish, not MSNBC.

Quite frankly, Smerconish turns my stomach, so having him on CNN is just fine, as I rarely watch that channel.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 10:57 PM
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55. You are correct
I admit I didn't even check the link this time, something I usually do before commenting. The OP should take some blame for the wording, however. This puts things in a different light altogether. There is still no replacement for Imus. Here's still hoping then, for someone who is not a far right nutjob.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:47 PM
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49. He's not at all like Imus, if that's what you mean.
For starters, this Smerconish guy is against drugs. Definitely not an Imus position!

Imus was NOT a far right wingnut. He was a registered Republican, but in practice was an Independent, having supported Kerry and many other Democrats through the years, as well as Republicans. He had liberal views on some subjects, like the environment and global warming.

I wish people would quit confusing Imus with Rush and people like that. Two totally different kinds of people.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:54 PM
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51. Same kind of person
I wish people would quit thinking that because somebody says they're independent, it actually means that. Sure Imus was nice to a few Democrats, in order to get them to come on his show. Other than that, his ridicule and denigration of Democrats did more to hurt us than any supposed support of Kerry. Rush does fundraisers for the troops too. Bashes Hillary just the same too, see tuna comment above. So what's so different about him and Imus? Oh yeah, like Chris Matthews, he doesn't like the war, but won't be honest about what Democrats are saying to end it either. That would make them weak girly-men, and we can't have that.

Fuck Imus.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:02 AM
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56. He didn't say he was an Independent. I'm saying his views reflect that.
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 01:03 AM by indie_ana_500
He said what I told you...he's a registered Republican.

He supported more than "a few" non-Republicans. MOST of the politicians he supported were not Republican.

I can see by your statements that you didn't watch his show and are not very familiar with his positions. His statements badgering Kerry were NO DIFFERENT than the statements I read right here in this forum at the same period of time. Those who thought Kerry wasn't fighting back enough against the Swiftboaters enough (Imus fought those commercials with some pretty harsh statements), and those who thought Kerry wasn't liberal enough or progressive enough.

Imus had a lot to do with the Democratic win this last November. He was the ONLY person on TV with a wide audience who openly assailed the "corrupt Republicans" and the "war criminals" Bush and Cheney. He didn't mince words when criticizing the racist commercial against Ford. He criticized George Allen after his macaca statement.

Yes, he hates Hillary Clinton and called her Satan. Their dislike of each other goes waaaaay back. He didn't need to be nice to her, or to any otehr Democrat, to get them on his show. They were clamoring to get on his show. And there were plenty of Republicans and musicians and authors standing in line waiting to get on his show.

A far-righter? Not at all. To say he was that is to show you don't know what you're talking about. I watched his show regularly for several years. I pretty much know his thoughts about the two political parties, politicians, and a whole host of other subjects. He was not a far right wingnut. But he wasn't a far lefter, either.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:16 AM
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57. Oh yes, I watched his show
Despite the fact that I've turned it off more than any other program besides the ones on Fox. It was a disgusting pile of filth, and I'm not the biggest prude on this board either. In fact, I think a lot of people who are defending Imus are actually the ones who didn't watch anything except candidate excerpts. I can't imagine any progressive getting a kick out of the endless locker room 'humor' that most people outgrew in the 6th grade. It was just the most awful stuff, every single day.

I also know he portrayed himself as an independent thinker. But he's really just another intimidated little boy who has to ridicule everything that threatens his distorted sense of masculinity. Just like half of DU did during the election and does every single time the right wing yells boo.

Imus and people like Imus are the problem. They don't need a ringleader, they are the ones who actually need to grow a pair and stop being intimidated into believing there's something wrong with being intelligent, thoughtful, considerate, cooperative, healthy, etc etc etc
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:51 AM
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65. I watched the show daily, Monday through Friday, 7-8 and sometimes 7-9.
I would rather have to listen to miserable old Imus rant on and have a multitude of intelligent guest on from both the Democratic and Republican parties , than someone like Smerconish. Smerconish is going to be another RW on Beck, Hannity or Limbaugh.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:03 PM
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68. Maybe you'll find something TRULY intelligent
to listen to now. Like reruns on TVLand.
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:14 PM
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71. I agree.....
smerconish is pathetic.

kkkarl would be proud.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:54 PM
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52. Imus is a recovering addict.
I used to watch his show (didn't know much about his history), and he did not recommend drugs at any time that I saw within the last year.

I don't like what Imus said most recently and what I have learned about his previous statements, but I wish that someone would put together a show with political interviews, satire of public figures, news and LIVE MUSIC in the a.m. The format worked for me, and I still haven't found anything worth watching except the Weather Channel.
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 06:56 AM
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58. Exactly.......
i've heard this guy.....this guy is the ultimate wing nut.

for those who wanted imus gone, you got your wish.

enjoy this "moran"
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:33 AM
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61. Time to shut off the crap on TV
And start thinking for ourselves.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:53 AM
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66. Most at DU already do that. Go tell non-DUers to do that. (nt)
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 11:53 AM by w4rma
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:15 PM
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69. I DO. n/t
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:29 PM
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70. Good. But I think I made my point too subtle. Many DUers watch TV to find out what TV watchers are
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 12:32 PM by w4rma
learning and what they will probably know. This is useful in campaigns because you have to know where the people you are talking with are in terms of understanding things.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:17 PM
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72. That is good. Hopefully this guy won't fool the number of people Imus did n/t
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 02:46 PM
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73. Who did Imus fool ?
he bashed shit-for-brains daily .

smerconish is a rw tool who cant get enough of schrub.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:04 PM
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74. For every minute Imus spent bashing Bush he spent an hour bashing Clinton and Pelosi
He didn't fool me.

Don
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:24 PM
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83. No, but TV-land did -- when it inspired you to focus on firing Imus instead of Rush & Beck
The whole focus of this discussion, the fact that we are even discussing
Imus and not firing Beck, is a media product engineered to influence your
sense of priorities.

33 dead students in Virginia vs. 33 dead Chinese steelworkers.
It is all manufactured and American TV-watchers suck it up.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 05:58 PM
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89. I consider those like Imus and Lou Dobbs much more of a threat than Beck or Limbaugh
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 06:14 PM by NNN0LHI
Imus and Dobbs both portray themselves with a pretty convincing illusion of objectivity which makes them more insidious because some people appear to have great difficulty seeing through their smoke and mirrors for what they actually are.

Beck or Limbaugh automatically get laughed off the stage by anyone but the true knuckledraggers so their following will be limited to wingnut Republicans.

Don
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:18 PM
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79. It's useless, TV-watching DUers have beaten-spouse syndrome -- they want Imus fired but not Beck
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 03:20 PM by Leopolds Ghost
And are willing to do nothing to get Rush or Beck fired, indeed DEFENDED
Rush for making the same sort of remarks Imus made.

Don't believe me? Check out the dismal response to the "Official Fire Rush, Beck" thread.

Most liberal Americans have no clue how cynically manipulated their every source of information is. Olbermann, for example, was (warmly) described as the "Howard Beale" of MSNBC.

Anyone who doesn't know the reference needs to turn off their TV and turn on their VCR and watch NETWORK or any number of other movies about their pre-packaged multimedia addiction.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:03 AM
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92. Thank you
I feel just a tadbit saner. This has been my most destressing incident on DU. I just can't believe how easily people turned on Sharpton and black entertainment instead of zeroing in on hate radio. Just stunning.
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:36 AM
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94. Same here...
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 07:42 AM by IronScorpio5




i cant believe some here as happy over this as are...

kkkarl
the fundie wing nuts
the rnc
and the race baiters jj and Al.



i'll stick with people who were pissed this would happen.....

carville
begala
estrich




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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:27 PM
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85. Wow. This was so unpredictable. ... Not.

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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:07 AM
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93. Probably true.....like a number of us predicted...
be careful what you wish for.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:30 PM
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87. Reportedly it's a try out, not necessarily permanent replacement.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:39 AM
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96. I Am Recommending This, Even Though It's After 24 Hrs., So Recs Are Now = 3
I'm just sayin'
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:39 AM
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97. Ahhhhh...the wit and wisdom of Smerconish......lovely....
On the June 20, 2006, edition of Scarborough Country, Smerconish trivialized reports of detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq as "naked pyramid pictures" and at the Pentagon detention facility at Guantánamo Bay as "play Christina Aguilera music a bit too loud."


On the April 10, 2006, edition of Scarborough Country, Smerconish suggested that "maybe law enforcement ought to step in" at pro-immigration demonstrations and consider "gathering ... up" illegal immigrants. Smerconish wondered why there was "zero discussion" of "gathering them up" at the demonstrations, when "ll I keep hearing is how would we ever find them?" He then suggested that law enforcement officials are being hypocritical by refusing to "gather[] ... up" illegal immigrants because they would "step in and do something about" a rally of "pot smokers," who "wanted decriminalization" of marijuana, or "scofflaws" with unpaid parking tickets.



On the April 4, 2006, broadcast of the Factor, Smerconish claimed that political correctness has made the United States "a nation of sissies," and that "sissification" and "limp-wristedness" are "compromising our ability to win the war on terror." (He later blamed "the sissification of America" for the sentencing of Al Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui to life in prison instead of death for his role in the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.)


On the November 23, 2005, broadcast of the Factor, Smerconish called public prayer by Muslim men at a sporting event "wrong," adding that they were playing "a game" to remind the audience of terrorist attacks. He also asserted that educating women means "they're not going to be around to instill these lessons in their kids."


http://mediamatters.org/items/200701160011?f=i_related




gee, i'm sooooo glad hes now got his own show and that bush basher imus is gone.
:sarcasm:



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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:07 AM
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98. So turn the channel, better yet, turn off your TV
The goddamn box is one of the biggest contributors to the sad shape our society is in. Our children are being raised by television rather than by flesh and blood parents, leading to obsesity, attention problems, and one can only speculate what the waves of TV violence is doing. RW viewpoints dominate our news, producing an echo chamber effect where the most outrageous POS can be stated, and after a trip through the
TV spin cycle, it becomes gospel.

Even people on the left are sucked in. Sure, they are outraged by this and that, but they continue to watch the damn box anyway. TURN THE DAMN THING OFF! Your life will be a lot saner and a lot happier, and you won't be feeding the corporate beast. For that is the only reason that TV exists is to feed the corporations. The trick for them is to develop enough well received filler material to keep the masses on their asses as the commercials play. And given that television itself slips most people into a literal hypnotic trance, is it any wonder that we've been brainwashed into buying more material crap than we need or really want?

Turn off your TV. I've done so for years and decades at a time, and have lived a wonderful life, full of friends, nature, good books, music, writing, and the great outdoors. I find it horrendous to cruise the streets of cities and towns now, where there is nobody, children or adults, out in their yards or the street, but behind the curtain you see that flickering blue glow. A sad, sad sign of our decaying society.
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