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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 07:40 PM Original message |
Poll question: A Poll on Scientific Transparency |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. should not have to release code and data |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. who enforces scientists "having" to do anything...? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I think when it comes |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. There has never been a time when data, protocols and results were not entirely open and available |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. The double standard is concerning |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
44. what do you mean, "until now...?" |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. I've yet to read of anyone on here |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. but how would you propose that be done...? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I think a good start |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Someone's going to break into your lab, and if they find ANYTHING... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. I suppose that demonstrates how little the general public knows... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
122. I honestly don't think most people even know what they are asking for anymore |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Nothing good can come from hiding data |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. The only thing scientists should release is what they submit to peer-review. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. End of thread. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Wouldn't repeating the experiment exactly |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Ever read a scientific paper? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yes, they do |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Oh, nevermind. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Sorry, but no |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Once you publish the paper... |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Who get's to decide what's relevant |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
65. The peers. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Here's where you screwed up: |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. It doesn't. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Again, you screwed up |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. If one wants to renew a grant and get more money, sure. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. So findings do affect funding |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. No, output affects funding. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Incorrect |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. All labs show global warming to be manmade. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Incorrect |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Scientific American's a biased source, eh? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. An editorial within it is |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #87 |
156. I never argued they were scientific papers. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #156 |
163. So you believe an editorial |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. I remain curious though |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #84 |
96. The science is not settled |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #96 |
157. That's the same thing George W. Bush says about evolution. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. I'm not wrong |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. Clarify Please |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. It's still reproducable |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. That would neccessitate |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Oh, bullcrap. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. No, I suspect you are lying |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Nope, just you that's lying. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. What's the point of reproducing one paper |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. The purpose would be to satisfy concerns about the data. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. If that's the case |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Oh, I already gave you several good reasons. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Give me 10 years |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Alright, go for it. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Ah but of course |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. If the research is legimate, science would be happy to accept it. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Ahem |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. JonQ, all real scientists back my line of argument. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Sigh |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #76 |
109. So, was the NSF in on the conspiracy when Bush was in office? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #109 |
114. How is bush |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #114 |
120. You're avoiding the question |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Big push was never from US based enterprises |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #124 |
131. You offer no proof, only conjecture |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #131 |
143. Not really conjecture |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #38 |
95. It can cost billions of dollars |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #95 |
158. Yes, that's right. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #158 |
160. LHC scientists disagree with you |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. Not really. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. And since you are such a prolific reading of scientific journals |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Two per day? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Sorry, but yes, I do |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Hmmm, no you don't. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. You misunderstood |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. And do you really think |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Oh, it's entirely possible. I read three or four today. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Well sure, if that's what you need to believe |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. JonQ, you're a global warming denier. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. In a few years |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Now you're sounding like doomsday cultists. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. ? |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. A whole TWO papers per day? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Some people seem to think it is impossible |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
71. No. I don't think it's impossible. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Like I said |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Oh, please. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. So saying it's |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #83 |
99. Hahahahaha!!! |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Sigh |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Thanks, JonQ! |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Believe me |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Wow, you're full of right-wing talking points, aren't you? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #110 |
117. RW talking point? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #117 |
123. Let's see |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #123 |
126. You really don't understand the debate |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #126 |
132. LOLOLOLOLOL |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #132 |
135. And there it is |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. That is EXACTLY what you are doing, loserboy. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. No need to get testy |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #106 |
112. LOL!!! |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #112 |
119. You could always do your own study |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #119 |
128. A blog? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #128 |
139. The data is there |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #112 |
129. Climate Change Fraud, they got charts too |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #129 |
145. Yup. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #106 |
116. Funny you didn't provide a source for that image |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #116 |
121. It's based on |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #121 |
125. What the hell are you talking about? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. So are you in favor of transparency or not? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #127 |
133. Answer my question. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. Not really |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. Not all data is peer reviewable |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. If it can't be peer reviewed then it isn't science |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #40 |
97. clearly then |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Are you really trying to equate the two? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #40 |
111. ...and you've never heard of ITAR, then. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #111 |
130. Reread the poll question being asked |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #130 |
134. You are the expert at diverting the conversation |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #134 |
136. Still no rereading of the question being asked? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
92. That's true, the applied nature of the data isn't always 'peer understood' either... |
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Traveling_Home (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
7. Depends on Who pays for it! |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
9. Release all and let |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
15. Arrest records and the juicy bits of any affairs would also be helpful...n/t |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
17. If they get public funding, their methodology and data should be public knowledge. n/t |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I find it amazing that some people are actually arguing against transparency |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I find it humorous that global warming deniers are pretending to be scientifically literate. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Sorry, but right now it's the proponents |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. I'm reminded of Ben Stein's movie about Creationism. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Haven't seen it |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Agree. Strange. n/t |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
62. At least the poll results above have changed dramatically as time goes on. |
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yawnmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
28. real science requires others to attempt to repeat the experiment to either... |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
31. Scientific papers should be subject to peer review. |
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bik0 (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
32. In 1974 Richard Feynman spoke about scientific integrity... |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
41. Release Everything.. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
56. I'd like some transparency on how many of the leading Global Warming "skeptics" are funded by |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. How about all scientists |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 04:20 AM Response to Reply #68 |
93. Oh, yes, it's all a big conspiwacy. |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #68 |
100. If you read all those papers you claim to read... |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #100 |
103. " Nobody is hiding anything" |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #103 |
108. Like I said... |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #108 |
113. How do you "spot fraud" |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #113 |
138. Nice try. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. My gosh |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. I see that reading comprehension is not one of your better skills |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #141 |
142. To you |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. You sure like to project your ignorance on other people, don't you? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. I'm not the one defending |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. There you go again |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. So no answer eh? |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #149 |
150. Thanks again for proving my point. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. Obfuscation: |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. Funny, but I never took a stance either way |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. So what is your stance on this then? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. If no one else understands, and you're the only one that does: then what is going on? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. I'm not the only one |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #151 |
155. "Scientific Transparency", as mentioned above I have a problem with how quickly... |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
89. I was gonna say "Yeah, sure, why not?" |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
90. I think it would be great if you tell us what you think first. n/t |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Release all code and data (nt) |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-09-09 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
91. This is already required for NIH funded projects with >500k/yr direct costs. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
101. As soon as we get corporate transparency, sure. |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
115. Sadly trying to get funding from the government and private sector creates too much pressure |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
118. you forgot to say "from the 1980's" |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
162. non specialists can do nothing good with the data |
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