cliffordu
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:03 PM
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I'm concerned that if the President creates too many jobs |
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that he'll lose his cred as a tool of wall street.
Talk me down.
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tekisui
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:03 PM
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1. Don't you worry. That isn't going to happen. |
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:10 PM
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6. you'll always be there to call him a Wall Street WarMonger, right? |
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:10 PM
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8. oops, answered the wrong person... |
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Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 01:11 PM by cliffordu
nevermind!!
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:24 PM
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17. I have never used those words. |
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You must have me mixed up with someone else.
I am just pointing out that the OP's concern of creating too many jobs won't happen. I am not sure getting unemployment under 8% is possible in two years.
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:07 PM
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3. Remind me again how the President creates jobs. |
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Any stimulus bill goes through Congress -- and unless you lived in a cave for the months of February and March, you know how that worked out.
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:13 PM
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10. Yes, it is Congress who passed the whittled down stimulus |
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Would be nice if the Obama administration could address that at some point. Instead of letting the RW co-opt the debate with their talking points about deficits and government spending. Some mention of the fact that the original proposals would have produced faster results but had to be cut back 2nd to Republican obstructionisism. President Obama can't pass the legislation but the will to call out those who responsible for thwarting the job creating agenda does not seem to be there.
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:33 PM
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18. President Collins and President Nelson.... |
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...weren't going to spend a dime over $800 billion, and a third of it was going to be tax cuts, whether Obama came in with an initial proposal of $3 trillion, $1.3 trillion, or $803 billion, and whether they were called out or not. Since he knew then he was going back to Congress for HCR, for financial re-regulation, for ACES, etc. there's an upper bound to the utility of pissing Senate swing votes off early.
When your hand is 2-7, in the wrong suit, one bluff and fold is the only option. Round after round of raising, and getting called, at that point would have been disastrous.
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:46 PM
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19. No argument, there. But no reason I can see not to point out that they tried for a better plan and |
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laying the blame where it belongs.
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:07 PM
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4. Well if he creates 150,000 a month for 3 years |
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and there are no further loses. We'll be at the break even point.
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:09 PM
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5. When presented that way, it is a daunting task, to say the least. |
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:14 PM
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13. Cleaning the Agean stables is an apt comparison |
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Being friendly to the people who created it is like feeding the horses in the stable beefaroni while you try to clean it.
Hopefully he learned his lesson in 2009, if not the only conclusion to make is that he was acting that way on purpose.
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:16 PM
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14. Did you count the number of jobs it would've have taken to maintain |
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normal employment growth? Greenspan said this morning that in a normal situation 100,000 new jobs per month would be needed to accomodate those entering the job force and those cycling off the unemployment rolls. Remember, that's if there had been no recession.
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:22 PM
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16. That and reduced retirement rolls |
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The market is up from April, it still is way down since 08 highs.
Seeing that the market is where it was 9 years ago boomers are going to be working longer.
Should have never traded their pensions for 401(k)s
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:10 PM
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7. I do think that if we begin seeing job creation and the jobs are not |
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the ones people are advocating (i.e. non-service, non-white collar), the meme will continue. So do not worry, because that is the likely outcome.
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:12 PM
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9. Evidently you think DU needs more flamebait nt |
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:16 PM
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15. Nope. Just a little sarcasm. |
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:13 PM
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11. Shhhhh. There, there. It won't happen, honey. Don't you worry. nt |
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Sun Dec-13-09 01:13 PM
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12. Wishful thinking. LOL! n/t |
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Sun Dec-13-09 04:16 PM
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21. you`ll know if there`s to many jobs when i get hired...... |
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so i bet`n there won`t be....
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Sun Dec-13-09 07:26 PM
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22. Well it looks like the stock market will continue to recover and this will |
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be blamed on him.
Millions of retirement funds of middle class Americans will be restored and all because he is a capitalist lackey.
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Sun Dec-13-09 07:57 PM
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23. Yep, A running dog if I ever saw one..... |
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