I hate the Democrats in Congress allowing liberman to retain his chair

[still_one]

This SOB was given a chairmanship to vote with the Democrats. Spector is more of a Democrat than liberman will ever be

[Union Yes]

1. Sen. Lieforwar should be stripped of all committee assignments and made into an irrelevent pissant.

knr

[msongs]

2. well obama campaigned for lieberman so get over it ok? nt

[still_one]

9. What does that mean? Obama is the President, NOT in the Senate /nt

[tabbycat31]

14. and lieberman turned around and campaigned for mccain

[babylonsister]

3. Do you know what the procedures are to strip someone of their chair?

I don't, but I think I'll try to find out. Maybe not tonight, but I've read this so often, and don't know what that entails, if it's possible, or if there's a time frame when it has to be done. :shrug:

[tritsofme]

5. In order to do it mid-session, Reid would be required to file a new organizing resolution.

Organizing resolutions are typically non-controversial and pass by unanimous consent.

It is possible that Republicans could act in alliance with Lieberman to filibuster the new resolution, denying Reid the ability to immediately sack Lieberman.

At the beginning of the next Congress it would be much easier to strip Lieberman of the chair if that were Reid's intention.

[babylonsister]

7. Thanks. I fear the scenario of Lieberman filibustering with republicans.

And I wouldn't be surprised. He'd surely be a goner if that happened. (I hope)

[still_one]

10. Then hopefully, that is what will be done /nt

[elocs]

4. So exactly how does your hate for those Democrats hurt them?

Or does the hating just make you feel better?

:bounce:

[still_one]

11. Because those Democrats are a threat to my family, and that hate will motivate me to work against

those "Democrats" in their re-election. They are destroying the values of FDR, and they need to be voted out

[rwheeler31]

6. Joe is a such a sell out.

He channels BeBe and Aetna on his long walks to becoming God.

[HughMoran]

8. I have to type nice words

...I'm so mad I might say something stupid.

[struggle4progress]

12. Then help us take a few more Senate seats in 2010

Let's knock off Bunning, Burr, LeMieux, Murkowski, and Vitter, for example

[still_one]

13. I am fine with your list, but I want ben nelson, and a few others on that list /nt

[struggle4progress]

15. (1) Nelson is not facing an election in 2010

(2) Other things being equal, a D in a seat is better than an R in the seat, because the party that controls the chamber will dominate the committees: under seniority rules, of course, this does not mean every committee will do what we want, but it does mean that more committees are more likely to do what we want
(3) Other things are not equal, of course: knocking out a center-right D from a conservative state will usually produce a wingnut R as replacement
(4) This game is about shifting the political center in a favorable direction: it is more productive to target vulnerable wingnut Rs than vulnerable center-right Ds, because one at least has a chance of replacing a wingnut R with someone more moderate, whereas an attack on a center-right D is very unlikely to move the center towards the left

[still_one]

16. I am talking long term, and the blanket comment that a D is better than an R does not mean that

we shouldn't put up Democrats to challenge these few incumbents who have done nothing but stand with the other side of the aisle

There are also some principles where because someone has a D behind his name, does not automatically mean that that person should be elected.

Those Democrats are not center-right, they are far more right than that.

[Freddie Stubbs]

17. Interesting fact: Lieberman votes the same way as Bernie Sanders 90% of the time:

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/111/senate/party-voters/

[mrdmk]

18. Except for when it really counts i.e. War, Health Care Reform, Foreign Relations

Besides, Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat. Also, Senator Sanders uses his own talking points, not the RNC/Fox news and what every other right wing hack is saying.

Senator Lieberman has a major track record of attempting to knock the legs out of any progressive issue that goes through the Senate. By the way, a real progressive issue comes up for a vote in one out of ten bills. Guess who votes yes for the progressive bill and who votes no?

[Echo In Light]

19. The devil, or lack thereof, is always in the details

:thumbsup:

[Freddie Stubbs]

20. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Lieberman

I'm just pointing out that he is far from the most conservative member of the Democratic Caucus.

[Hippo_Tron]

25. This is the biggest item of the Democratic Party's agenda

Even Ben Nelson and Blanche Lincoln were persuaded by incentives to compromise. Lieberman is still obstructing. That's simply not acceptable no matter how he votes on other issues.

[Kingofalldems]

22. Joe is your boy! You must be super proud of him.

Especially his stand on the Public Option. And that debate with Cheney was awesome!

[KittyWampus]

21. Agreed so emphatically. He makes Reid and the whole party look weak.

[Javaman]

23. Kind of amusing really...

don't you recall how reid was filled with piss and vinegar over how he was going to strip any dem of their leadership rolls if they didn't follow this or that?

LOL

yet another example of harry's lack of spine.

I just shrug and continue to eat my toast. I just find it all so very amusing.

[still_one]

24. You have the right attitude. At least it is better than going crazy from all their games /nt

[Javaman]

26. I have hit the wall. I don't allow myself to get stressed like I once did...

as I get older I think about something my dad once told me when I was 15. "you will come to understand, that all politicians are alike regardless of the party"

I have hit that point. They are. The all make promises and maybe keep only 1 to 2 percent of them. They all are ego maniacs. They all take corporate donations and are bound to such. They all do photo-ops. They all have great health care. They are all out of touch with the average person. They live to be reelected and not to serve.

There are those who choose to believe them, there are those who are skeptical and there are those who don't believe a word they say. I fall some where between the latter two.

Over the past 19 years, when I became, what I consider politically active, nothing in my life has changed. The only thing I have seen change is the poor get poorer, we have less and less jobs, the value of the dollar has dropped, there are more homeless people, more people don't have health care and it's getting harder and harder to feed ones family.

I did my political tour of duty. I'm done.

The slow erosion of our society is papered over by each new candidate or politician all in a game of bait and switch to get him or her elected.

We have regular wars now because the only sustainable industry in this nation is the weapons manufacturers.

It's become common now to hear various death tolls from across the world.

We squabble about bullshit when the earth is dying.

Nothing of earnest will come from Copenhagen. Just like the health care charade, we will be presented with a host of bullshit achievements, proclamations, international laws and various decrees. Most of which will not be followed or put into effect. However, the politicians, regardless of the nation, will walk away with a puffed up sense of self righteousness claiming a moral and ethical victory when the sum total of their work will effectively be a band-ade on a broken arm.

I'm done with making myself crazy. I now put my efforts to growing food, decreeing my own carbon foot print, even though it won't make a dent in the long run (I just can't give in on that), loving my wife and living the most peaceful life I can.

We are all sliding down that shoot, but I'm trying my own best to make that slide slower and my landing that much softer.

As for the United States as a whole and the rest of the world, I don't think it's going to be a nice landing.