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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:49 PM
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Thoughts about 2016.
It's not too early for Democrats to begin considering who we should nominate for president in 2016. We have been caught behind national trends previously, and to our injury. In 1994, for instance, Republicans found in talk radio a new medium for rallying the conservative base that Democrats had largely ignored, and hit upon the idea of nationalizing the off-year elections with the Contract for America, while Democrats relied on the old Tip O'Neill paradigm of all politics being local. More recently, however, Democrats and lefties have more than held our own in use of the Internet--but an even bigger paradigm shift is nearly upon us.

Too many commentators to mention have explored the phenomenon of Americans becoming more consumers than citizens. Given that this trend appears irreversible even with a Democratic administration and Congress, Democrats and lefties in the realist camp must set ourselves to the task of embracing this change and making it work for us rather than the opposition. Fortunately, for the time being they remain stuck with gray, colorless leaders not even capable of mastering television, as did Bill Clinton and, on their side, Ronald Reagan.

Early in the 2004 Democratic presidential primaries, Howard Dean became the first true Internet-driven presidential candidate--the first to ride what I shall call the second wave of media stardom in a credible campaign for a major party's presidential nomination (taking television as the first for purposes of brevity). John Kerry and his supporters also made a good use of the Internet in his ultimate quest for the presidency as the Democratic nominee. In 2008 Barack Obama and his campaign made an even more powerful Internet push, which in a narrowly-decided primary season may be regarded as indispensable. His campaign, for all its substantive policy proposals, and his public discussion of them, also provided an unprecedentedly high level of more purely charisma- and emotion-driven campaigning largely decoupled from issues, with the relatively less concrete themes of "Hope & Change," "Yes We Can!" "Fired Up! Ready to Go!" Fan tributes from Obama Girl and the like, along with the apolitical exploits of a cartoon Obama in animation from Jib Jab and others, also served to create depoliticized Obama proxies with high entertainment value, and ability to "sell his brand."

For all Barack Obama's ability to connect with voters on a purely emotional level, he shares a shortcoming with all the aforementioned politicians: he, like them, is human, and the paradigm of human politicians is approaching obsolescence. Human politicians have biographies--embarrassing revelations can come out and cripple their political ambitions--and their parties' prospects for victory--within a media cycle. Human politicians are prone to gaffes and can commit crimes. They can die in office. And they almost always have political positions, which inevitably alienate many who don't share their views, no matter how exquisitely hedged or concealed by false advertising they may be.

The transition to cartoons as elected officials is inevitable. A carefully chosen cartoon candidate is sure never to offend voters with skeletons in his closet, or pesky political positions displeasing to some or many. A cartoon may be completely apolitical and appeal to pure consumerism. A cartoon will never die in office or even get sick and puke on the Japanese prime minister. The inherent advantages of cartoon politicians are innumerable. This brings us to the question of who, specifically, to nominate in 2016.

The Geico Gecko is probably the ideal candidate. He is friendly, outgoing without being overbearing, and has a charming sense of humor. He never says anything unpleasant and has no politics. He just lets Geico and the rest of the business world do what it wants. He's never shagged an intern, driven drunk, or had a nasty divorce. Best of all, as a green lizard he appeals equally to all racial and ethnic demographics. A lizard can unite us. Having nominated a lizard for president, we need a vice-presidential candidate with powerful appeal to our party's human base. Nominating Erin Esurance would increase our chances with some key demographics. An attractive, athletic, outgoing young woman, she would doubtlessly prove a tremendous help with the youth vote: girls would want to be her BFF; guys would daydream of being with her. The fact that nearly every young person in America would friend her on Facebook could in itself give Democrats a free media advantage sure to crush the Republicans in November. She's never flip-flopped on a key political issue, because she has no political positions--she just wants to put an attractive face on letting Esurance, and business generally, do its thing. Isn't that the ideal political candidate?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:51 PM
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1. why don't we wait until after 2012...?
we could very well be running an incumbent in 2016.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:07 PM
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6. The Gecko will appeal equally to adminstration loyalists & the grassroots.
Plus, his reptilian good looks will bring in Alex Jones and David Icke fans. There's no stopping him! Sorry, Joe Biden in 2016, if that's what you mean.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:10 PM
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17. no, that's not what i mean.
whoever gets elected president in 2012, may very well be the candidate in 2016, as well.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:36 AM
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18. Well now, my friend, I do have my disappointments with the Obama adminstration....
but really, how do you get the idea that someone else might be the Democratic nominee in 2012?

Can't be Howard Dean (my original 20004 candidate, whom I love to this day, for all his faults) or Dennis Kucinich (give me a break!)..?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:23 AM
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19. history repeating itself...
lbj gave us medicare and an escalation in vietnam- and then chose not to run.

2012 is still a lifetime away, as far as potential candidates are concerned.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:28 PM
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20. With LBJ, there was also the fact that his health precluded him from running again.
He had an extreme bum ticker that wouldn't have withstood another campaign. The presidency is already aging Obama noticeably, poor dude, but he certainly won't be in Lyndon Johnson's situation health-wise.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:37 PM
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21. cheney made it through two terms just fine with his...
'poor health' is often used as cover for stepping aside.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:46 PM
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22. True enough about Cheney...
but a presidential campaign and governing, are a lot rougher on a president than a veep.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:53 PM
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25. you actually think that smirk was calling the shots...?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:57 PM
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26. You can't tell me you think Cheney would have gotten through...
Bush's much greater amount of campaigning and public activity. Come on now. Of course I'm not disputing that Cheney did more of the thinking, such as it was.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 04:01 PM
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27. fdr made it through 3 and almost 4 full terms in poor health as well.
if they want it bad enough- they find a way.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:18 PM
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29. FDR died less than half a year into his fourth term!
:think:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:36 PM
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31. oops- my mistake...i was thinking that 1940 was his 4th election...
and that he died in 44...

it's been a number of years since i was in history class.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:26 PM
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30. Are you suggesting someone other than Obama may be the Democratic candidate in 2012?
That strikes me as pretty fanciful.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 08:24 AM
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33. haven't we already been through this...?
after another escalation or two in afghanistan, and after healthcare gets 'reform' that isn't, and after the 'jobless' 'recovery' continues its jobless ways...

when obama's approval ratings are in the shitter in 2011- he'll make the prescient decision not to seek re-election in 2012, to save himself the embarrassment of a hugh and very public ass-whupping.

see: lbj
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:52 PM
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2. Kicking because...
"The transition to cartoons as elected officials is inevitable."

:spray:
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:42 PM
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15. Oh, the Republicans are sure to try & divide "real Americans" & cartoons...
But they'll fail--we Americans even want our reality shows unreal!

:hi:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:53 PM
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3. Why not? The Republicans already ran Beavis and Butthead n/t
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:38 PM
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14. Democrats used to have a Foghorn Leghorn sound-alike...
but alas, Fritz Hollings retired.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:58 PM
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4. Bold and innovative,
We already tried wax figures with Ronald Reagan. I'm pretty sure Bush/Cheney was claymation. Cartoons make sense.

But geckos hate being called lizards.

Actually, since the decision on Afghanistan, I'm back to thinking about who the Democratic Party should nominate in 2012.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:28 PM
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9. Garry Trudeau gave us Ron Headroom.
Soon it'll be time for the "real" thing!
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Tony_FLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:01 PM
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5. Mark Begich (D) Alaska will be the Democratic Nominee for President in 2016
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:11 PM
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8. Hmm, an Alaskan might fare better than our little lizard buddy in the snows of Iowa & New Hampshire.
But the Gecko will crush Begich in South Carolina by at least two to one thanks to his ability to transcend the black/white Democrat divide.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:09 PM
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7. Cory Booker
barring scandal, he's a shoo-in for NJ governor in 2013 should he choose to run. He doesn't take shit from anyone (Conan O'Brien knows this) and is really getting out there to try and improve one of the "worst" cities in the state, perhaps the country. He can also fire up the Obama base.

If not 2016 then 2020 or 2024.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:31 PM
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12. Seriously, he's a good guy.
"Barring scandal" is a good caveat to add, though, since in New Jersey especially, even people inclined to be good have a way of getting tainted with corrutpion.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:50 PM
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16. I want to see him unseat Christie first
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:29 PM
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10. Show me his birth certificate! n/t
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:32 PM
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13. See, that could be his undoing.
He does have that Ocker accent.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:30 PM
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11. Never been a big fan of Roland Emmerich's movies.
and John Cusack must've had a gambling debt or mortgage payment due.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:50 PM
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23. I would need to see The Geico Gecko's Birth Certificate
and I think our candidate in 2016 will most likely be female.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:51 PM
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24. How about 2020
or you haven't got that far yet.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 04:05 PM
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28. I'm more concerned about 2024
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:38 PM
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32. I think the Gecko is a good choice. He/She does not offend Republicans.
Well, those who don't work for rival insurers.
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