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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 04:54 PM
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RECONCILIATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this should be the manta of everyone here. We all want better, more progressive bills, we can get those bills if we only need 50 Senators + Joe Biden.

If Reid uses it to get through some meaningful reforms, we will whether the storm in 2010. If he doesn't the Dem party is toast along with any hopes for Progessive reform for at least the next ten years.

The conservadems have made it apparent that they do not support any kind of meaningful reform whether it be in health care or financial reform or anything else that might actually be good for the people and earn Dems some credit.

They are bought and paid for and not even trying to hide it anymore.

Let's be honest with ourselves, we wont get anything positive done in the next year unless Reid starts using reconciliation and that will kill the party.

WE NEED TO BE SCREAMING THIS TO THE ROOFTOPS: HARRY!!! DITCH THE CONSERVADEMS, USE THE FUCKING RECONCILIATION ALREADY BEFORE THEY DESTROY THE PARTY!!!!!
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jasi2006 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 04:55 PM
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1. I agree. nt
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 04:58 PM
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2. Agreed. Just Do It.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 04:59 PM
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3. The lay ray of hope

manta, save us!
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:03 PM
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4. If they are going to d it via reconciliation, they might as well just do Medicare for all.
It's a minor change in existing legislation. Just add the words for all citizens then fund it through general funds.

Single payer would solve everything.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:05 PM
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5. Precisely. Sometimes the medicine that is needed is not all that tasty. Some will just
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 05:06 PM by WheelWalker
have to hold their nose and swallow if they want the cure.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:45 PM
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14. +1
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:21 PM
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6. It was used to pass tax cuts for the rich so why not! rec'd
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:38 PM
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10. Zactly! nt
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:24 PM
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7. Oh, I thought this was a Tiger Woods thread (nt)
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:34 PM
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8. ha!
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:35 PM
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9. Ditto! I rec reconciliation.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:54 PM
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11. Agreed. Isn't it ironic that in this case "reconciliation" is actually a thumb in the eye..
...to one's opponents? Reconcile and to hell with them! Yea...
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:06 PM
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12. A kick for health care!
:kick:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 06:07 PM
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13. I emailed Reid an hour ago that included that one word
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:59 PM
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15. Reconciliation has limitations.
It was on both Olbermann and Rachel's show, where they mentioned the time limitation, as well as the need to go back to the House, along with something about how it could not address the public option.

I think it's time to add a Congressional rules forum to DU.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:23 PM
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20. See, that's the thing. I think it could address the public option.
I do not see why not. If it relates to the budget it should be able to be done by reconciliation. I actually think HR 676 could easily be done with it. By the time the 5 years have passed, people will love it and refuse to give it up.

Could just be wishful thinking.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 12:07 AM
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21. It can. I was wrong about my conclusion. See this thread-
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:00 PM
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16. Talk dirty to me! knr nt
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:01 PM
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17. YOU CAN'T USE RECONCILIATION ON HEALTH CARE. STOP YELLING!
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:16 PM
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19. Yeah, you can. It can't be the mostrosity they are working on now
but a lot of decent reforms could be done with it.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:14 PM
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18. make a good bil and let Republicans FAIL in 2010
Then change the age of medicare to 1 day old
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 01:24 AM
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22. It's a word, not a procedure...
Just ask any one of our Democratic "leaders".


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