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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:09 PM
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Poll question: Is our country screwed?
Do you think we're completely screwed? Or is there still hope? Vote in this poll!
Feel free to explain your vote, but keep it flame free!
I think our country is *probably* screwed, myself.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:12 PM
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1. We're not screwed in the least. Things will be fine.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:01 PM
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12. The poll seems to play into the current"Don't Blame Obama. The US is ungovernable" meme that's being
promoted by the DLC. It's us, you see. Not him. And certainly not Congress.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:18 PM
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16. I think that's a fair read even with the DLC's new handle < DLXe, I also think that if...
Obama were to seize those reins and start rough-shodding up the middle of the big muddy like in a lawless wild west outpost after a rain dump (which I'm beginning to see America more & more as) that no-less than two things would occur, 1) the bottom of key forums here at DU would either drop out the like a wet paper bag, and, 2) the roof would blow off the top of DU :(

Some are trying to keep it to an either/or proposition :)
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Midwestern Democrat Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:02 PM
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26. Well, I think the ineffectualness of our elected representatives is indeed
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 10:03 PM by Midwestern Democrat
a reflection of our society. The fact is that our system - as currently configured - rewards these people; these people thrive in the current environment. IMO, the 1988 presidential election was the tipping point. The Bush campaign team won an election (overcoming a 17 point deficit) with nothing more in their arsenal than trivial side issues and slime - and it's been all downhill from there.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:14 PM
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2. Lieberman does not sound like the dad from Alf
As much as he sounds like Droopy Dog

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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:16 PM
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3. Sounds like?
Hell, he looks like him. I could of sworn I was looking at LIEberman until you said that was Droopy.
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Cowpunk Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:21 PM
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17. 5% of us say you're wrong.
So there.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:18 PM
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4. The Earth entire is screwed economically.
And the threads have been stripped. No getting outa this one baby!
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:19 PM
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5. As a kid I can remember hearing on Paul Harvey: There's no sense in worrying,
nothing is going to turn out alright. I think I'll just expect the worst and if something better happens I can be pleasantly surprised.

Yeah, I thought electing a Congress controlled by Democrats would be good, then a Democratic President. Oh well.

"If we go, go insane, we can all go together. In this wild, wanton world, we can all break down forever."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmnCteBCUi8
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:20 PM
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6. This country has been "screwed" a long time. n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:21 PM
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7. Why ask now?
The country has been getting screwed for years!
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:21 PM
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8. We're screwed until we stop waiting for politicians to solve our problems. /nt
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im1013 Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:59 PM
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11. I couldn't agree more!!!

:toast:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:21 PM
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9. CEO-Americans are doing great.
The rest of us are screwed.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:36 PM
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10. This country is headed for an EPIC crackup.
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704wipes Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:48 PM
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30. +1 and i recommend all 20 somethings just get the hell out
There are a number of countries superior to this one in how they treat their citizens.
We are not the greatest country in the world and have not been for quite some time.
Get out. Go. Citizenship elsewhere can be better for you...
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:04 PM
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13. No worse than anywhere else; but yes, probably it's all utterly screwed.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:13 PM
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14. Unrecced for being an unbalanced poll.
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 08:14 PM by MineralMan
Screw all that.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:23 PM
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18. Too much Lieberman hate?
:P
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:26 PM
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20. Oh, I don't know. I did a simpler version of this poll.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:16 PM
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15. Yes,it's worse than the great depression of the 30s and WWII put together.
one coming right after the other.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:25 PM
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19. All three
Fuck Lieberman.

Seriously, fuck Lieberman.

You hear that Lieberman? You're an asshole. Fuck you.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:29 PM
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21. Set to music, it could go either way, on my down days it feels like the first song
could be our new national anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTzGMEfbnAw

but the vast majority of the time, I relate to the second.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NMph943tsw






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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:31 PM
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22. Probably, but not because of the scope of our problems
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 08:49 PM by Juche
Our problems are huge (entitlement funding crisis, energy issues, losing our scientific edge, health affordability, job losses). However they are not insurmountable. Look at what people went through from 1910-1945. They had 2 world wars, a great depression and a flu pandemic that killed 3% of the world's population (the equivalent of killing 200 million today). All with far less wealth, science, technology, human rights and international cooperation to deal with those problems.

But I think we're still screwed because we aren't willing to deal with our problems responsibly en mass. So they will eventually overwhelm us until it is too late.

I don't think the world is screwed. I think the world is going to be great in the next few decades. However, I think the US is screwed. I believe that we are going to sink further and further into a debtor nation that lags the world in many important aspects (middle class security, scientific achievements, infrastructure).

However, its not all bad. The world as a whole will still get better. And maybe the competition will kick us in the ass. I remember in the 90s when global warming was discussed, people would say 'why should we do anything if China will not'. Now China is taking the environment more seriously than we do. They've got further to go mind you, but the issue of sustainable living is bigger in China than here.

Brazil was a military dictatorship 2 decades ago. Now they are becoming a middle class country and they already have universal healthcare at the same time that our middle class is collapsing despite our 200 year old democracy and giving healthcare to everyone is a political football rather than a moral imperative.

Its off topic, but I am impressed by how heroic humanity can be. At least for the last 300 years or so when we have seen endless compoundings of science, technology, social justice, humanities, human/civil/political rights, etc.

Its awesome that I am alive in these times. I bet when I die mid century many of the problems we face now will be solved. Plus we will be a middle class planet because of the rapidly growing economies in Brazil, China, India, Indonesia & Vietnam adding a couple billion to the middle class.

Good times. The US will be a bigger basket case, but the world will be better.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:36 PM
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23. He looks sort of Alfish too.
:)

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:30 PM
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24. Keep an eye on the neighborhood cats. Joementum is in town.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:45 PM
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25. Any country with an economic system based on infinite growth
is screwed.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:03 PM
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27. SCREWN!!!
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:06 PM
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28. I'm just here for the fuck you Lieberman.
As for the rest of the poll:

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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:29 PM
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29. If the American sheeple would get out their funk and feel their power,
this country may have a chance. But if the corporations are allowed to run

roughshod over everything. . . game over.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:09 PM
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32. It was over from the moment corporations were granted personhood.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 10:49 PM
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31. No, we are screwn.
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