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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:25 PM
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The Coming U.S. Commercial Real Estate Crash
The Coming U.S. Commercial Real Estate Crash
posted with permission from: http://sane-ramblings.blogspot.com/2009/12/coming-us-commercial-real-estate-crash.html

Commercial property values are ready to crash - offices, shopping centers, hotels and warehouses. The crash is already beginning, but rather than have more insolvent banks, the U.S. government for now is allowing them to "extend and pretend."

This means the banks let the current investors keep the properties for now, even though they're making little or no payments on their loans. The banks pretend those loans are still good and don't foreclose.

But to make matters worse, many owners are also defaulting on their property taxes forcing the lenders to pay them rather than have local governments foreclose. Some of those owners aren't paying for building maintenance or insurance either, once again a cost the lenders must bear as they sink ever deeper into these properties.

When commercial properties do crash, even if you're not rich, please see "How You Can Make Big Returns On Your Money Investing In Commercial Real Estate Even If You're Not Rich," to learn how you can invest in them and potentially make a very high return on your money.

I've been a real estate investor since 1976 and this advice is a public service. I don't have products or services to sell you or profit in any way except the satisfaction of knowing you and your family fared well in your real estate investments if you choose to make them.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:30 PM
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1. It's already here. There is over 55 million square feet of vacant commercial property in Metro LA
Obama should have focused on new job creation and helping homeowners in trouble instead of pissing away a year on his corporate health care giveaway and war.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:51 PM
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3. I'm with you 100% on that, David.
Not only would it have been good for the country, it would have been good politics, as well.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:32 PM
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2. Oh well, some of us tried to tell people they were overbuilding
Particularly office space. Nobody paid any attention, just kept right on putting up those trendy office complexes. Now they all sit vacant, with weeds growing in the courtyards and atriums (atria?).

And they all have big giant "For Rent" signs sitting out in front.

If they go any further south and I was younger than I am I'd seriously consider investing in some. The market will come back but maybe not in my lifetime.
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:55 PM
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5. Near my home is an abandonded slap of a shopping center
The slap for about 10000+ sq ft is done, half the parking lot is done but work stopped last 10-08 and has not started back up. All this time there has ben a bulldozer parked otu in front just rusting.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:53 PM
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4. already here! 18% vacancy in many parts of so cal
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:31 PM
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6. Here is the info from the linked column...
"How You Can Make Big Returns On Your Money Investing In Commercial Real Estate Even If You're Not Rich,"


Commercial property values are ready to crash - offices, shopping centers, hotels and warehouses. The crash is already beginning, but rather than have more insolvent banks, the U.S. government for now is allowing them to "extend and pretend."

This means the banks let the current investors keep the properties for now, even though they're making little or no payments on their loans. The banks pretend those loans are still good and don't foreclose.

But to make matters worse, many owners are also defaulting on their property taxes forcing the lenders to pay them rather than have local governments foreclose.

When commercial properties do crash, even if you're not rich, here is how you can invest in them and potentially make a very high return on your money.

As the crash happens, hedge funds and other investor groups will swoop in and buy these properties from the lenders, at deep discounts, sometimes even for pennies on the dollar. But to avoid heavy debt payments and keep rental prices low to fill the properties with good tenants, investors will need to pay cash.

That's where you come in, if you have as little as a few thousand dollars to invest. Some of these investor groups will be raising money from many small investors and this means you can be very selective as to which one is right for you. In making your decision, please do the following:

- Check the track record of the company raising the money and the people involved. Have they defaulted on their obligations or made poor investments in the past? Know who you are doing business with and their track record. Ponzi schemes are run based upon people being too busy to do their homework.

- How will they manage the properties once they buy them? Investors can make a tremendous buy and then lose their shirts mismanaging the property. Find out who will manage the properties, their track record and what their vested interest is in having them run well.

- Check the fee structure. You can make a great buy on property, bring in a top notch manager and then get eaten alive by fees. The managing partners and other organizers make big money, while you get a very small return on your investment. As the risks are shared, so should be the rewards.

- Transparency. A well respected accounting firm should regularly issue financials and they should be easily available to you. If you're not financially sophisticated, you can hire a CPA for a few hours who is, any time you choose.

- Liquidity. How can you sell your investment if you need to? What market exists for it? If you must hold for a certain number of years, you should know that up front.

- Dividends. What is the dividend policy? Will you receive periodic payouts?

Commercial real estate opportunities will be plentiful. But take the time to choose wisely and you'll enjoy peace of mind doing business with the right people to meet your objectives.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:35 PM
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7. I am interested in Making Big Returns On My Money Investing In Commercial Real Estate Even Though I
Am Not Rich! Tell me more!
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