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SecularMotion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:48 PM
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Projections Put Whites in Minority in U.S. by 2050
Source: NY Times

Without new immigrants, by the middle of the century the nation’s population would begin to decline, the elderly would account for nearly one in four Americans and non-Hispanic whites would remain a majority, according to new projections by the Census Bureau.

But if immigration were to merely slow down, rather than stop, non-Hispanic whites, who now account for nearly two-thirds of the population, would become a minority by 2050, according to the projections. If the pace of immigration increases, that benchmark could be reached as early as 2040.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/us/18census.html?hp
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:56 PM
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1. Differentiating between Hispanic and non-Hispanic "whites" seems
like a bogus distinction. Besides, I can't see how it matters anyhow.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:02 PM
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2. There's a difference ... I'll be so pleased NOT to be in the majority any more.
;)
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:03 PM
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3. I wonder if they'll be affirmative action for Whites at that point?
I wonder if they'll still be affirmative action for Reds like me that point too. :)
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:18 PM
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21. There has always been affirmative action for white people.
Most affirmative action, under a wide variety of names, has always gone primarily to white people. :shrug:
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:22 PM
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24. Which is why I said "at that point."
I am just wondering if it'll be codified into law.
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:03 PM
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4. Good n/t
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:38 PM
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5. Meh,
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 04:39 PM by Jamastiene
:shrug:

It's not a big deal, really. We are all at least multiracial in some way anyhow. Just about anyone who decides to trace their genealogy will find another race somewhere back there. No biggie.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:41 PM
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6. Slow news week? The Times is recycling this from a couple of years ago. nt
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:38 AM
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27. Yeah, isn't this straight out of Pat Buchanan's book from 2002?
"The Death of the West: How Dying Populations and Immigrant Invasions Imperil Our Country and Civilization" is a hell of a racist tome by any standard.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:42 PM
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7. Wait for Republicans to make this a campaign issue
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:46 AM
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28. They did, in 2004 and 2008.
I apologize for linking to the following sites, but if we want to learn what the GOP boneheads are saying, we have to go where they lurk. :)

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37720
http://ideas.rebuildtheparty.com/pages/5641-general/suggestions/67750-make-preservation-of-a-white-majority-in-the-united-states-a
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:49 PM
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8. Good.
Perhaps the repukes wouldn't be quite as scared of this if they had treated 'minorities' better all along, huh?

But, they won't think of it that way, because nothing is EVER their fault.
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:24 PM
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9. we will need lots of immigrants
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 05:26 PM by ThomThom
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:20 PM
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23. Why?
I like your name, by the way. :hi:

But do we really need to sustain population Growth? Population Growth is already a massive ecological and environmental problem. Wouldn't it be a good thing if our population began to shrink a little?
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:27 PM
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10. Not Minority, rather a Plurality
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 05:29 PM by Burma Jones
Anyway, it's going to get harder and harder to tell just who's white, black, red, yellow, brown, periwinkle, lime green etc etc.

But, White Folks will still comprise the largest ethnic group by far. I mean, who the hell sees Asians, Hispanics, African Americans and Native Americans as some sort of monolithic group?

Of course, some of my in-laws don't consider Italians to be exactly white anyway and some of my Grandparents certainly didn't see Jews as white.

Vanessa Williams was asked how she felt being black living in Northern Westchester County NY (without a doubt the WHITEST place I've ever lived) and she replied that Green was the only color that mattered up there......

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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:33 PM
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11. Since 'whites' are a minority around the world...
it's past time for us to match the world population.

Doesn't matter one bit. We are all the same species. Eventually, we will all be shades of brown.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:35 PM
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12. Hybrid kids look better anyway........
I have three of them......
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:17 PM
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16. Are they gas-electric or diesel-electric? nt
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 07:09 PM by WriteDown
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:34 AM
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26. Well, they started with a plug in......
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:29 PM
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30. LOL! Very good! nt
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:16 PM
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15. By that logic...
Is it time for Africa to become more "White?" :shrug:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:19 PM
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22. Not true at all. Study a bit on genetics...
Mixing genes is not like mixing paint, it's like mixing light.

The more integrated we become, the more diverse we will be.

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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:15 PM
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14. Especially since my tribe just declared that we have zero
common genetic ancestry with Asians. Got to be "pure" don't you know.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:44 PM
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32. "Who the hell sees Asians, Hispanics, African Americans and Native Americans...
...as some sort of monolithic group?"

Racists, that's who. To them, it's the Great Evil Ooga Booga Army of Low Albedo against Judeo-Christian Civilization.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:00 PM
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13. I'll turn 92 that year if I am fortunate enough to make it that far
And If I do I will still be voting in every election.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:18 PM
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17. Immigration will likely slow down...
or change dramatically in terms of where the immigrants come from. It is hard to predict where, but it always does seem to change. For those of you who say "good" in response, you might want to consider hiding your bigotry a little more. The problem has never been whites or blacks, but those who identify who is white and black, and use identity to control politics. That won't change no matter how many "whites" there are. Thank God that the Census now recognizes "multiracial", it's a step in the right direction to hopefully destroying racial identities period. Unfortunately, whites becoming a smaller portion of the population may increase the number of whites who consider race to be their primary identity. Right now that is just limited to the Aryan Nation types.

And for all those who say that one day we will all just be "brown", it doesn't really make much sense considering that skin color is an evolutionary trait, one that didn't take long to "evolve" among humans. For one, immigration all across the world will probably slow down a lot due to such issues as overpopulation and global warming, and lack of energy resources in the future will make living locally quite popular again. So it is likely that skin colors will generally match the regions they have evolved to. In the US, you can look back at the native peoples and their skin color to get an idea of what color is best at absorbing Vitamen D while also fending off radiation in this environment. This is very long term of course, but it makes sense to me. It wasn't long ago that humans came out of Africa, and the diversity in skin color that evolved since then is a rather astounding testament to adaptability to a specific enivronment.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:05 PM
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18. lol... I just heard right wing heads pop
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:16 PM
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20. Yep... it's a pretty sound.
The part that I like is how 'terrified' they are of 'the white race going extinct'.

Morons.

In our history, genetic line have actually gone extinct. In this case, it's likely the opposite.

The more integrated the people, the more the lines are preserved... and improved.

As I have said many times, and as any geneticist will agree; 'Mixing genes is not like mixing paint, it's more like mixing light'.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:28 PM
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29. Ironic isn't it?... it's what has made our species so resilient
Edited on Fri Dec-18-09 03:28 PM by fascisthunter
that is a FACT!
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:06 PM
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19. Is this really LBN?
I've known this for about several years.

K&R.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:27 PM
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25. 2050 should be a great year
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 08:29 PM by Bragi
By 2050 we will probably be well into the worst effects of climate change.

By then, we'll be enjoying extreme weather events, crop failures, famines, mass migrations, wars, etc.

Did I say "we"?

Sorry, I meant "people of all colours and races under about age 30".

Me, I won't be around. Sorry about the horror show left behind.

Rest assured, I am thoroughly embarrassed to be a member of the generation that totally fucked everything up.

- B
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PeaknikB Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 12:40 PM
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31. These projections are totally bunk
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 01:00 PM by PeaknikB
They don't take into account the effects of peak oil extraction which is right around the corner. The American Southwest is totally unsustainable, good luck pumping water and getting around in that mess past 2020. There is too much egalitarianism in this topic and shown by too many here on DU, they are going to be in for a big surprise once the future finally comes. I can assure you, there won't be immigration, there will be resource wars, and there won't be 8 billion people on the planet. You can not have infinite growth on a finite planet.

By the way, no one says the United States must exist in 2050 in any way similar to what it does today. The next 20 years will be nothing like the previous 20, the free ride is over. Ultimately the world is going to implode on itself far before 2050, I'd be willing to bet it'll be a replay of the 1920s in politics as well. I don't think the U.S. will swing left this time, the U.S. was an aberration.
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