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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:38 AM Original message |
WH to Left: 'Let’s realize how far we’ve come, and how close we are to making history.' |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. I agree with the WH, so sue me. nt |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. I think you are buying a pig in a poke and it will cause more outrage |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Read the Times article I linked to, babylonsister. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Hey, I know it's no great bill. I get that. But even Weiner and |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. If the WH feels threatened by the left, maybe they'll be scared into making |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Link please. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. I said Sanders was on the fence, but here... |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
88. Funny, Weiner wasn't and is not a member of the Progressive Caucus.... |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. Schumer is a big ally of the DLC |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
91. It can be improved on. The question is will it, which is what the problem is here. Those of us |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
98. like NAFTA has been improved? |
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cilla4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Here's where we part ways, bs |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. You agree with them always |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. She didn't always..... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #25 |
63. People are entitled to disagree, of course. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #63 |
78. I shudder to think what 'ignored' said, so the function is working, and |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. I guess so! |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #78 |
123. You know,"ignored" has a lot of good things to say. |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #25 |
69. yea critical thought not a strong point with that one |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #69 |
120. I have to disagree here. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
48. I agree, they are reasonable and dealing with reality, the left is not. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #48 |
66. Obama's failure to stomp his foot, as you say, is driving me further to the left. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
101. The polls are against you....Americans 59% do not want this bill without the PO |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
119. I hope you're right, but there will have to be a few rabbits in that hat |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. This Leftie to WH: Take your lying, spinning propaganda and shove it |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Are they wrong? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. LIke hell I would |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. No- not these reforms. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
37. Yes they are. |
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shadesofgray (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
108. +100000000000000000 |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
3. "could you please bend over once more . . . " |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. +100000 |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
4. I have no interest in making BAD history. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
5. The "left" is very scary |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Mass murdering insurance shitstains cause a lot more actual damage n/t |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
29. "tantruming" |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Sorry, but did you vote for Obama? |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Yes I did, and yes I did |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Why don't you run for office? |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Why don't you? n/t |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. She just has no arguement left |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Ahh, yes the sheep. |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Yes- you are behaving like a sheep when you make posts like this. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Keep typing nasty messages on the internet, |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Oh the irony !!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Is that the best you got? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #53 |
67. Exactly |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #67 |
74. Ahhh the irony........... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #74 |
107. Deleted message |
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110. Deleted message |
Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #74 |
122. Welcome to DU! |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #67 |
83. And what are YOU doing? Arguing on the internet. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
39. Well, we damn well better be scary, because Obama is NOT getting |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
51. Yeah, we're so scared |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. LMAO |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Well said! n/t |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
95. The Democratic party losing all the DEMOCRATS would be a good thing?? |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
121. I call it "holding his feet to the fire". |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
6. What kind of history seems to be irrelevant. This is Orwellian double-speak that Rove would be |
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deminks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Yup, the date we deregulated health insurance companies among other things. |
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optimator (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
10. the patriot act was historical |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
11. It is always the "left" that is causing problems, huh? That is what I am hearing from surrogates |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
13. Going backwards is "making history"? |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
15. Historical moment for corporations. nt |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
16. Left to WH: "Let's realize that we are not feeling the Hope and Change we were promised" |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
17. I love it when aparatchiks of the DLC tell the left to suck it up. |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
19. a win just for the sake of a win is not a win |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
21. Recommended. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
24. I think you might have heard that wrong |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #24 |
40. Of course, the way it's set up now, we're history whether the bill fails |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #24 |
52. DUzy! n/t |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
27. What isour frickin obsession with making history with this administration? |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
28. From now on, these are the folks who I'm supporting: |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Yup- PDA gets my support from now on. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #28 |
47. You would think that people here have learned about helpng republicans win after the Nader fiasco |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. How is supporting progressive Deomocrats helping Republicans win?n/t |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #28 |
70. Excellent Suggestions. I'm with you! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
34. Funny how the left is suddenly worthy of notice now that's it's resisting this FUBAR bill. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. There's a lesson there |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. I think they inadvertantly started a fire on the left and don't know to put it out. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:01 AM Response to Reply #43 |
116. When a Republican is in office, we got nothing. |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #116 |
125. Yup. Janis said it for us. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Hah |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
42. bad history! |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
45. If all we get is a mandate, I'm leaving the Dems and joining the Socialists. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
50. Because it's better to make history than to make good policy. |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #50 |
114. Ssshhhh! We're supposed |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #114 |
118. Oh well, I have stood accused of ponilessness more than once. n/t |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
56. The mandates would be the end of the Democratic party. Single payer |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
58. If the Wh didn't shit on everything progressive prior to the public option |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
59. With these majorities in Congress, this is the best they can do? Mediocrity? |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
60. Nope |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
61. Infuriating, insulting, and DISHONEST |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
64. these are really bad people, the mid terms will hand them exactly what they want |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
65. Yes, when middle-class America is FULLY GUTTED by insurance mandates and slips into poverty ... |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
72. Oh, It'll make history, all right |
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subterranean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
76. Obama campaigned on a public option and no mandates. |
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wackywaggin (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
77. Mandate all Senators and Congresspersons to be on this plan |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
79. sit down, children, be quiet and just AGREE with us |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I know, right? |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #79 |
100. Did you hear Tweety last night? |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
81. Left to the WH ...you're fucked. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
82. I agree with your political analysis, BurtWorm. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
84. We used to be against corporate welfare, that's how far we've come. |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
86. Left to WH: 'Let’s realize how far we have to go, and how far we are from acheiving true reform . |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
87. Capuano to fellow Dems: "You're screwed." |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
89. snicker |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
90. If there can't be a public option, get rid of the mandate |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
92. while I support Dean I also have faith in the President |
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hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
93. Left to WH: Tell that to Lieberman and Nelson. nt |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
94. "Let's realize how far we've come" back from reform to the status quo |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
96. Historic is right. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Yes, a very historic transfer of money from the little guys to the top |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
102. The most corporatist bill to ever slither from the Potomac slime -that's your historical achievement |
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WT Fuheck (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
103. We've come a long way alright. |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #103 |
127. Ain't it the truth? |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
104. They just keep saying the same shit over and over |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:57 AM Response to Reply #104 |
113. +1 idiots don't even realize the so called left is their base |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
105. A lot of our leaders in the past made history. I'm thinking Hoover. |
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ThePhilosopher04 (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
106. Perhaps it's the circular motion... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
109. Make history by making us serfs of the insurance industry, Mr. President. |
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Wardoc (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
111. These assholes need to realize that shit is not chocolate ice cream, despite a similar appearance! |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
112. K & R |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
115. Should Read "Making Historic Profits in the Insurance Industry" |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
117. It's a shit sandwich. |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
124. Fuck him! |
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126. The most telling thing over the past few weeks is the lack of advertising |
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128. while "making history" is significant, doing so at the expense of |
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