Kurt_and_Hunter
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Mon Dec-21-09 12:44 PM
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Not to go all Ron Paul or anything, but the fire-safety cigarette makes me kinda hate government |
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There has been a state-by-state movement of outlawing regular cigarettes, requiring that only "fire-safety" cigarettes can be sold.
Fire-safety cigarettes self-extinguish at a few fixed points if you are not actively smoking them.
This effect is accomplished by gluing two or three thin bands of less-porous paper together with an ethylene vinyl acetate copolymer emulsion based adhesive (carpet glue).
It is said that smoking an ethylene vinyl acetate is no worse than smoking tobacco.
Of course it is not well determined that smoking an ethylene vinyl acetate is no worse than smoking tobacco... it is, however, said.
There are no long-term human tests of smoking this stuff, for instance. Why would there be? Cigarettes do not have to meet FDA standards of being safe to ingest because they are an exception and are obviously not safe to ingest.
So new cigarettes additives are not tested for their safety. It sucks that Phillip Morris puts ammonia compounds in tobacco to make nicotine bind to cells faster. And it sucks that they can do that because hey... cigarettes are already unsafe.
But this is the Government adding some random shit to cigarettes... not Phillip Morris, the government.
Yes, smoking is stupid and bad.
But that doesn't mean smokers deserve to be additionally poisoned.
Few people are going to quit specifically because they are forced to take some ethylene vinyl acetate with their tobacco. In fact, most smokers will not even know. So folks will just suck down this whatever-it-is because they are addicted.
On the plus side, clove cigarettes can no longer be sold.
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Ruby the Liberal
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Mon Dec-21-09 12:47 PM
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1. "Clove cigarettes can no longer be sold"? |
nemo137
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Mon Dec-21-09 12:59 PM
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5. Earlier this year. There was a tobacco bill. |
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If I'm remembering right, it raised taxes on tobacco and put tobacco products under the oversight of the FDA. Also banned clove cigarettes, which I used to enjoy on occasion.
The raised taxes were a factor in me quitting, actually.
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Ruby the Liberal
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Mon Dec-21-09 01:53 PM
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I haven't seen a clove cigarette since the 1980s. Didn't even know they were still on the market, much less illegal now.
Congrats on your quit!!! :toast:
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Mon Dec-21-09 04:28 PM
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11. They replaced them clove cigars. |
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From what I hear, they taste more or less the same, and you can still smoke something as black as your soul.
I made it through finals week without smoking, so I am pretty chuffed with myself. Thanks.
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Mon Dec-21-09 12:48 PM
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Mon Dec-21-09 12:56 PM
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4. I know I would never tell a person who is overweight "so lose weight" |
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Mon Dec-21-09 01:03 PM
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Mon Dec-21-09 12:49 PM
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and I can tell the difference.
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Mon Dec-21-09 01:03 PM
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6. Looks like an attempt to protect innocent people from |
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the danger posed by careless smokers.
I'm all for that.
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Mon Dec-21-09 01:04 PM
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8. Why not just tell them to take the gun powder out ot the papers? |
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Mon Dec-21-09 01:05 PM
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as a bartender i watch them puff frantically and continuously to keep the fire safety units burning.
the law may be designed to sell more cancer causers, upping tax revenue and lowering medicare and social security payments through demographic adjustment.
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