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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:13 PM
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You want to fight the HCR bill, unite and start our own healthcare COOP
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 01:16 PM by still_one
at least that is the view Norman Goldman from the Ed Show is proposing. It is an interesting view


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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:13 PM
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1. That could be a good use of energy?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:18 PM
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4. If there was a good organizer, and you could get enough people to join, it would
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 01:18 PM by still_one
at least give people a choice

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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:21 PM
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9. And it's could be a good way to fight back against
the insurance industry raising rates. imo
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:23 PM
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13. but you need a lot of startup money, like George Soros /nt
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:14 PM
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2. Does anyone know the legalities of that?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:17 PM
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3. I don't, that is why I am posting it. If enough people join this "Healthcare COOP", that would
mean they have insurance, and are not required to purchase the government/insurance company version


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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:19 PM
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5. You better get one hell of a lot of people! $$ reserves have to be VERY HIGH for something lie that
to work.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:19 PM
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6. I agree, that is the only way it would work. /nt
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:20 PM
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7. This is a beginning...
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:21 PM
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10. Thanks, good information /nt
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:20 PM
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8. All you need is some seed money (so you can immediately pay
out initial benefits to policy holders).

Say, maybe $10 Billion dollars.

Because you need at least a few hundred thousand policy holders to achieve even a small degree of efficiency.

True, you don't have to pay your CEO and executive huge salaries or bonuses, and as a non-profit, you don't have to pay shareholders dividends.

But you still need $10 Billion to start, otherwise you'll never get any quantity deals from "network providers" or Big Pharma. In fact, you might need a hell of a lot more. $100 Billion to start.

It's a great idea. Only very unlikely to happen.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:22 PM
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11. What is George Soros up to lately? /nt
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:36 PM
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15. He's got a lot of money,
but he doesn't have THAT kind of money.

Better to ask the Bill Gates Foundation. It has, or will have in the future, the kind of money we are talking about.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:22 PM
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12. K&R'd
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:28 PM
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14. We have to do something and that could be an idea if you can find
a multi-billionaire sugar daddy to fund it with seed money. It could have the effect of a public option by offering the insurance companies real competition like the public option could have. We need to put these clowns out of business and we do that by refusing to buy their product, but to do that people need an alternative.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:46 PM
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16. You could also organize a co-op to own the shares of publicly traded health insurance companies.
You might get more bang for your buck that way.

Influence corporate policy AND constitute a ratable group for risk underwriting.
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