Should Posters in TSA Threads Have To Disclose

[MineralMan]

When they took their last airline flight?

[Forkboy]

1. I was going to vote other but I couldn't think of anything funny to say.

[MineralMan]

4. Sometimes you feel like a nut...

[timeforpeace]

36. If you fly a lot, the TSA stuff is routine and they have gotten pretty good at it. The people who

complain the loudest do seem to be infrequent flyers if I'm reading between the lines correctly. The complaints about every little thing are overblown and seem disingenuous.

[NoPasaran]

2. Is that a flamewar in your pocket or is your underwear just on fire?

[MineralMan]

3. It's my underwear, I think. Something's burning, anyhow...

[NoPasaran]

29. Anyway, I made three round trip flights this year

No TSA drama to report.

[blondeatlast]

5. Other: No, but it would lend credence. I've got my son and ex-husband on a flight

to Europe that left last night--and I'm not finding much humor in the last couple of days.

[MineralMan]

10. Thanks for that. Yes, if people who flew regularly posted that they

did, then their complaints would carry more weight. If poster who never fly disclosed that, we could pay the appropriate attention to their posts.

[ibegurpard]

6. where's your dog in this fight?

I think it's pretty ridiculous that I can't take a standard sized tube of toothpaste with me on the plane and this guy can get bomb-making equipment on.
It just goes to show that the hysteria that prompts these rules leads to the law-abiding public paying the price while the ones determined to blow something up will find ways to do it regardless.
Take reasonable precautions and stop putting every incident like this on a 24 hour blaring news cycle...when they don't get the attention they'll stop doing it.
Edit: my last flight was a year ago.

[MineralMan]

11. Given that I could put a rather large explosive force in a standard

toothpaste tube, I guess that one makes sense. I'm just saying that, while 99.999% of airline passengers would just have toothpaste in there, it would make a pretty good concealment for explosives. Nice sealed object. Difficult to detect.

That, to me, is a reasonable precaution. I've never gone anywhere that I could not obtain toothpaste at my destination, although it might not have been the brand I prefer when I went to Playa del Carmen. Still...

[panader0]

7. Cat Stevens is on the no-fly list

[HipChick]

34. What's your point? My 7yr old cousin is on the no-fly list..that database still has problem

of being accurate

[MineralMan]

8. This is actually sort of a serious poll and post.

While I think many TSA regs are pretty lame, I also think that the multiple OPs regarding every change in TSA policies are a little over the top. Yes, it's annoying when you have to jump through some new hoop at the airport, but I think a lot of the people complaining about it rarely, if ever, actually fly.

Some guy tried to light something he concocted on the plane. It fizzled, but it was, apparently, a real attempt to ruin everyone's day. So, in response, the TSA did something. Probably the wrong thing, but they did something.

Now, I'd think watching guys from Nigeria getting on planes would be worthwhile for a time, and letting the regular security screening handle everyone else, but I'm not all that inconvenienced if they add yet another seemingly silly check or rule.

I fly just a couple of times a year these days, but I used to fly at least a dozen. Back when they first put in the metal detectors, I thought that was annoying. When was that? Back in the 70s? Then, they stopped letting people go into the "secure" areas without a boarding pass. That was annoying, because all the airports had all their concessions in there, so you couldn't have lunch with someone who was leaving town.

But, then, there's the crappy parking and the traffic at every airport and the connection that's in a different terminal and the lost luggage and the long walks to your gate. Flying is annoying. But, then, a few hours later, you're across the country or in another country. A few hours instead of a few days. Not bad.

So, if you don't fly, what's the concern? If you do fly, is it really that much of a pain now, compared to ten years ago? Really?

[HipChick]

15. I flew weekly for over a decade for biz..

As a FF, at a minimum 2 flights a week, going there and coming back,
people flying once in a blue moon? knee-jerk reaction they don't have to put up with weekly..so yeah, maybe they should STFU

[MineralMan]

17. I'm more concerned with the ones who never fly.

No dog in the hunt, so what's the deal?

[HipChick]

19. Exactly..

I beta-tested Clear, The Registered Traveler Program...the company I was working for at the time developed it...TSA hated it..as a consequence ..it died a horrible death..

[MineralMan]

21. I saw someone complaining the other day about having to

take their laptop out and send it through the x-ray separately. The funny thing is that I remember many, many flights back in the late 80s and 90s when you had to turn the thing on and demonstrate that it worked to the security screener. Now, that was a PITA. Taking it out and putting it in a tray doesn't seem like such a big deal to me. I started carrying a lunchbox-style portable computer in 1987. Hell...hardly anyone even had a laptop.

It started some interesting conversations in the waiting area, though.

[HipChick]

32. I have to carry 2 laptops at all time...take each of them out

at least mine own and the clients ..I have it down pat taking it out..WTH are they complaining about?..TSA? I grew up in Europe...try flying in and out of Heathrow while the IRA was always trying to bomb the hell out of the runways or the terminals..

[MineralMan]

37. On one flight, back in the late 80s, the battery on my laptop

was dead. I had to dig out the power block and cord and walk with the security guy to a wall outlet to show him that the thing would turn on. Funny. I always made sure the battery was charged after that. Plopping my notebook in a tray is kid stuff, compared to the old days.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

30. how many people in the civil rights movement had "No dog in the hunt"

The TSA is about establishing internal customs controls in the United States - the TSA has already taken to harassing amtrak and bus passengers on a selective basis. It is about our right to freedom of movement.

[MineralMan]

33. I didn't have a dog in the hunt during the civil rights movement,

but I showed up in Selma to walk across the Pettis bridge with a lot of other people. So, I participated. As for "harassment," I haven't noticed any of that at the airports when I travel. I see a lot of people passing through security and going to their gates.

[HipChick]

35. the first time someone goes postal on a Amtrak or Greyhound

I guess people will be complaining..

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

40. well a dude in Canada got beheaded by a schizophrenic on Greyhound

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=692762

[MineralMan]

41. Wasn't there that throat-slashing incident in Canada on

a Greyhound? Something like that, anyhow. I don't ride the Greyhound any more. Not since my 20s, and that was a long, long time ago.

[Solly Mack]

9. and credit card numbers when posting in threads about credit companies/banks

I promise never to use your personal information in any way not stated in the small print or sell it to others for use.



I'm going Shopping

[MineralMan]

12. How is saying you fly a couple or a dozen times a year

personal information? We don't even know who you are? How would that say much except that you do fly from time to time and here's how these new rules affect me?

I have two Visa Cards, one MasterCard, and an American Express classic card in my wallet. What have I disclosed? How could that harm me? My last flight was to Laughlin, Nevada for a couple of days' visit with my parents and my sister and her family. It was really cheap, on Sun Country, and I even got a free hotel stay.

I lost about $60 in the Wheel of Fortune quarter machines.

Laughlin has a sucky baggage claim area, but they do have a smoking patio in the secure part of the airport. Very sensible of them.

Now, do what you will with that "personal" data.

[Solly Mack]

13. I was referring to credit card numbers

You said we could be humorous! I didn't vote "other" though...so maybe that voids the humor clause,

[MineralMan]

14. OK. But the two things are hardly similar.

[Solly Mack]

16. I wasn't comparing the 2...just asking people to post their credit card numbers

so I could go shopping. I included that in the small print...the shopping.

Seemed like the opportunity to ask, so I took it.

[MineralMan]

18. Ah, I see. Never mind, then. Carry on...

I certainly didn't mean to interfere with your enterprise. :grouphug:

[NYC_SKP]

20. I flew twice this month. In-state, Southwest. Had the same crew on both return trips.

Which is, I think, kinda fun!

[MineralMan]

22. Cool. I did that a few years ago, with several flights and the same

crews. It was great. One of the flight attendants had the cutest freckles on her nose. Uff da!

[treestar]

23. I only flew once since 911

It wasn't really that much worse. It was a few years after 911. The first couple must have been tough. I recall taking someone to the airport and seeing uniformed military at the point where passengers only could continue.

[MineralMan]

25. Yeah, it was sort of like a European airport, where there are always

security folks armed with full auto weapons. That always made me feel a little more secure. I flew at the end of October that year. The screening wasn't any more difficult than it had been. I went through and got on my plane.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

24. I flew 100,000 miles this year, fuck the TSA and CATSA too

Once a year to Disneyland or once a week nobody should put up with the TSA bullshit. The TSA should be abolished and a special prosecutors office established to investigate and prosecute former employees of the TSA for civil rights violations and theft. Thankfully an increasing number of these flights are on private aircraft.

[MineralMan]

27. OK. Thanks for an informed post. You fly. You experience it.

You have every reason to have an opinion.

[proud2BlibKansan]

26. Today. Just got home.

What's the problem?

[MineralMan]

28. How'd your trip go? Were you given a full body-cavity search?

Glad you made it home!

[proud2BlibKansan]

43. Trip was fine. The only difference we noticed was they seemed to spend more time looking at bags

going through the xray machine. No body searches.

[bigwillq]

31. None of our business (nt)

[MineralMan]

38. There was an option for that. I assume you clicked it.

[bigwillq]

42. Yes, I did (nt)

[ipaint]

39. Purity tests... good idea. nt