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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 06:15 PM
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Apparently a friend of mine was on that Detroit flight
I worked with him on the Obama campaign in Wisconsin.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roey-rosenblith/over-detroit-skies_b_404255.html
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 06:31 PM
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1. Amazing Story
Thanks.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 06:39 PM
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2. He writes extremely well.
Fascinating account.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:00 PM
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3. Very well written. What a guy! A perfect accounting from someone seated remotely. Now the Indian.
Edited on Tue Dec-29-09 07:01 PM by peacetalksforall
"The only thing that I recall happening is seeing an Indian guy off to the side, an older gentleman wearing a gray suit leaning against the wall. Suddenly there was a police officer next to him pulling his arms back and pulling handcuffs on him. The man didn't struggle, the bags which seemed to be his were left there, and he and the police officer disappeared around the corner"

Yesterday I read about the very neatly dressed Indian man who brought the bomber to the counter - supposedly passing him off as a refugess who didn't need a passport.

Who is this guy or these guys? What is this - are there any thread about them?

Congratulations to the writer and to Huffington Post for carrying this.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:39 PM
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8. I read far too much covert/CIA stuff but I'm going to throw this out there
anyway... Everyone in the intelligence community knew this guy was ticking like a time bomb. Indian guy could have been a covert operator, knowing this "firecracker" would do no more damage than what was done, and convinced him to go on this flight and attempt his action. Gullible man-child is what I'm getting from descriptions of him. Anyway, the fact that Indian guy's luggage was not immediately scooped up and taken with him for inspection said a lot to me. Many people saw Indian guy get bomber on the plane without a passport, showing CIA or other credentials may have secured his seating on the plane. Who knows? Makes for a good story, right?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 11:24 PM
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13. Good speculation, but if I was writing the script, I would have two Indians.
Edited on Tue Dec-29-09 11:36 PM by peacetalksforall
The story we're hearing about Amsterdam is that a well dressed man (who according to two people sitting nearby - appeared to look like an East?) Indian escorted the scraggly looking man to the counter and told the clerk that the guy was a Sudanese refugee, agent says no because there is no passport, East Indian talks to a Manager and the guy gets on the flight. That same person could have traveled with this scraggly guy and could be the same one who got the cuffs, but I tend to think there are two different people. Did the Amsterdam East Indian pose as someone with authority, such as ICE or a NW Manager or a UN Refugee or independent refugee agency person. I find that this person and the one who got the cuffs whether the same of not is /are the most interesting player(s) on the bombing side - so far. Who do they really represent?

The boarding point is so critical.

Lockerbie - Pan Am - Frankfurt - plenty happened there.

Readers - all of the above and below is pure speculation - no news, no facts here.

Because I can't help being interested in the CIA and the way they operate, it is possible that this was a ploy by the people who back Cheney and Rumsfeld to make Obama and his Cabinet look bad.

The first thing for us to learn is whether they intended to blow it up or scare everyone. Why would this escort sacrifice his life along with the bomber? Both brainwashed?



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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:35 AM
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14. As to your last sentence, I'm speculating they knew the damned
thing would burn his crotch and nothing else. I'm thinking also this guy was set up. Who knows? John LeCarre, I miss you....
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:15 PM
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4. K & R
Very gripping. Worthwhile reading, for sure.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:21 PM
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5. That was an amazing, well-written account...
...and he sounds like a great person as well. I hope his business goes on to succeed beyond his wildest dreams!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:27 PM
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6. Kick
I hope people read this account. It is sober, well-written and in the end, inspirational.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:35 PM
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7. Fascinating account
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:41 PM
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9. I left a comment on HuffPo about how beautifully written it was...n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:42 PM
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10. Marking for later; looks very, very good. nt
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:06 PM
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11. What strikes me is the mention of "hundreds of other police officers"
From this paragraph;

We stayed in the baggage claim area for 3 hours without any word of what happened next. We were only allowed into the bathroom one person at a time by an officer who guarded the door. Behind the line of our immediate security detail there were hundreds of other police officers moving around back and forth, as if they were on they were on the night watch guarding a military base from a potential threat. What they were doing was unclear. The only thing that I recall happening is seeing an Indian guy off to the side, an older gentleman wearing a gray suit leaning against the wall. Suddenly there was a police officer next to him pulling his arms back and pulling handcuffs on him. The man didn't struggle, the bags which seemed to be his were left there, and he and the police officer disappeared around the corner.
I'm always curious why police departments do this. It seems as such an incredible overreaction. Why did hundreds of police officers need to respond to an event that was basically over by the time they got there, not to mention ...WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY EXPECT TO ACCOMPLISH? Did a call go out for every single one of them to go to that terminal area at DTW or did most of them just show up after the call went out that indicated an incident at the airport? Did the 56th cop expect to be able to collar the bad guy himself? What about the 80th? The 97th cop? What was the point?

:wtf:

I've seen this over and over in my lifetime - what appears to be a huge and unnecessary response by dozens of cops to an incident. I can understand cops responding en masse to an event like the plane flying into tower one of the WTC, but why would "hundreds" of cops need to go to Detroit/Wayne when the plane landed without further incident?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:39 PM
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12. Very interesting first person account
That said, I am having grave doubts about the "official story". I feel like I've been transported back to the Bush leagues, I mean, the Bush administration. What color are we at now? Magenta?
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