I thought Homeland Security was created to make sure agencies talked to each other?

[aquart]

But ABC news is now telling me that none of them do, that there were little pieces of information that nobody pieced together.....

SO HOMELAND SECURITY IS A BIG FAT WASTE OF MONEY AND TIME?

What a surprise. Can we abolish that pointless monster now?

[Thickasabrick]

1. Actually under Clinton, it was an organization meant to respond to

Homeland emergencies. Shrub fucked it up by guttng it basically and making...well basically what we have now. It used to be a good agency.

[aquart]

2. I thought it was only proposed under Clinton.

I refuse to believe any Democratic administration would give anything such an evocatively fascist name.

[Thickasabrick]

4. Oh it was definitely Bush's name. Bush merged a bunch of agencies

into it including FEMA, which was actually a pretty good agency until Bush screwed it up.

[blogslut]

13. The basic name came from Hart-Rudman

http://books.google.com/books?id=igqMIP7OjrAC&lpg=PA126&ots=AspQJTOZRw&dq=homeland%20security%20lies%20and%20the%20lying%20liars&pg=PA126#v=onepage&q=&f=false

[mikelgb]

5. There has always been a DHS. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

holy fuck. NO! WRONG! DHS was created under the disastrous Bush admin. plz lern

[Thickasabrick]

7. No...FEMA was rolled into DHS. My point was in doing so he fucked

up FEMA.

[Echo In Light]

3. The revamping of 'alphabet organizations' was to get personnel on board w/the advanced Police $tate

[ieoeja]

6. That was my understanding as well.

I thought the #1 purpose of Father-, er, Mother-, damn, Home-land security was to coordinate efforts between the two while serving as a buffer between them to keep the two from getting too entwined.

[spanone]

8. Obama needs to purge the cheney/bu$h* agencies....one and all

[Echo In Light]

12. Thing is, I don't think "electable" candidates are "elected" to alter course re ongoing plans

[timtom]

14. Correction...

SOMEONE "needs to purge the cheney/bu$h* agencies....one and all"

[gmoney]

9. But who will sit there chanting "orange... orange... orange... orange..." for the NEXT 8 years?

[FLDCVADem]

10. That's exactly what is was for

Unfortunately, human beings don't always do what they're supposed to do. Territorial battles/turf wars between the multiple law enforcement agencies and the IC keep people from doing what they should be doing.

Until someone is brought up on charges for not sharing the information that they need to share in order to protect against terrorism, it won't change, no matter how many re-orgs/re-namings happen.

[librechik]

11. no apparently there's a sub organization that's in charge of that

from the GAO
snip
"Furthermore, Congress created the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) in 2004 specifically to develop comprehensive plans to combat terrorism. However, neither the National Security Council (NSC), NCTC, nor other executive branch departments have developed a comprehensive plan that includes all elements of national power—diplomatic, military, intelligence, development assistance, economic, and law enforcement support—called for by the various national security strategies and Congress. As a result, since 2002, the U.S. embassy in Pakistan has had no Washington-supported, comprehensive plan to combat terrorism and close the terrorist safe haven in the FATA. In 2006, the embassy, in conjunction with Defense, State, and U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), and in cooperation with the government of Pakistan, began an effort to focus more attention on other key elements of national power, such as development assistance and public diplomacy, to address U.S. goals in the FATA. However, this does not yet constitute a comprehensive...

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08622.pdf

Good thing the Bushies didn't believe in expanding bureaucracy!

:sarcasm: