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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 05:36 AM Original message |
Juicy and Tender, Seitan Is Quite Possibly the Best Fake Meat -- But There Is a Downside |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 05:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. the next big thing? Seitan has been around these parts for a long time. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. I'm guessing the author means the next big thing like tofu, which crossed over into the mainstream |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. Mmmmm... seitan. |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. I'll bite (tee hee) |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. It's in the marinate. All in the marinate. Buy best quality tamari. And fresh scallions. And kombu |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. that sounds really good! |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
56. THIS |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
67. A couple of different things. |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
72. Where in Philly? n/t |
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Craftsman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yes there is a down side, IT IS NOT REAL MEAT!!!!!! |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. That's an upside. n/t |
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Craftsman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. No it isn't, nothing beats good meat |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Opinions vary. n/t |
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Craftsman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. To quote a bumper sticker on my truck: |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. "Veggies aren't food" |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. We'll think about that while the worms eat your early fallen corpse due to colon cancer |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Eating gluten was inflaming my intestines and putting me at risk for |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #58 |
76. NO GINGER FOR YOU! You're [sic] been warned! |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. Here you go: |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. *snarf* |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 06:00 AM Response to Original message |
4. I subscribed to Vegetarian Times for years and there were numerous recipes |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 06:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. The problem with that stuff was that it wasn't wheat gluten. |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
41. Well, I still look for wheat gluten when I'm buying dog treats. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
59. Lots of dogs have a problem with gluten. In the natural state, wheat isn't a part |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
73. Thanks! That makes a lot of sense. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. The compound that was killing the pets is called melamine cyanurate |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #77 |
99. Thank you very much. And I do remember that... |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. I think you might do better to buy brands that refuse to use Chinese ingredients in their food. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
5. And the world doesn't need to consume more gluten than it already does, |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 06:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. If you can't eat wheat, then don't eat this stuff |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
30. That doesn't mean they can safely consume ever-increasing amounts of it. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. A person can become sensitive to almost anything so it would be really stupid (and self-centered) to |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. +1. n/t |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
74. OT: Ginger? Really? |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Yeah. Ginger. Pretty weird huh? I had no idea till my face and then airways started swelling like |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #75 |
85. Hey, who doesn't love a surprise? |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
82. Yes -- a couple of times I've posted recipes on DU |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. BEANS IS DEATH! |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. A friend of mine is horribly allergic to rice. We should just nuke China now for her safety. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Nuke China -- now you're talking. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. And it's a less common allergy than soy. |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Yes it is. |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
102. Thank you!! |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
95. Anecdotal but |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
7. I used to make it back in the 70s |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
9. Mmmmmmm, hail Seitan. |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Agreed . . . if you want to try something REALLY tasty . . . |
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StarfarerBill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
61. Thanks for this! Looks like some interesting options, especially the faux seafood. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
66. Thanks! |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
11. Nutritious and delicious. Loves me some seitan. |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
14. Seitan is not "made with" wheat gluten, it is wheat gluten. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. 70%? |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. If "perhaps as many as 30%" are effected ... |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
15. why would vegans or vegetarians want to eat something that looked or tasted like meat? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. texture is a very important component to cooking and eating. Seitan has a particular texture |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. Because fake meat tastes good. And because it's often protein-high. n/t |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. Why? It's not that I hate meat, |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
60. it's not the taste of meat that we don't like |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
64. Because meat tastes good? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
16. Seitan is the best? It tastes awful. |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
17. It's peeeeeople! Seitan is peeeeople! |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
19. Seitan is very, very easy to make. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
22. i'll stick with real meat, thank-you. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
70. Loves me some meat. n/t |
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StarfarerBill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
24. I do love the texture of seitan, but prefer the nutrition of tofu. |
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happy_liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Tofu is much better- you just need to know how to cook it |
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StarfarerBill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Thanks for the advice. |
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happy_liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. superior nutritional value |
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StarfarerBill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I love tempeh too, and enjoy its flavor over both tofu and seitan. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
104. Same here. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. I knew people in Hawai'i who swore by "trash tofu" |
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happy_liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. that must be okara |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Great info on the soymilk maker. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
96. Cool info, thanks -- And welcome to DU! nt |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. It was probably okara, as mentioned below. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
27. I can't eat gluten |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. It's good for those who can TODAY. |
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diamidue (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
52. That's what happened to me. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. It is common everywhere among people of white European descent -- and far more |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
32. Seitan so, Joe! Seitan so! |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. Just finished reading "Gluten: What You Don't Know Might Kill You" |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
83. My autistic daughter was on a gluten free diet for about a year |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
98. Important article, thank you for posting. nt |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
39. If You Want the Taste and Texture of Meat, You're Not a Vegan |
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StarfarerBill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Explain. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Really? Do tell. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Typically brilliant. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
65. Well that was just fucking stupid. n/t |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
69. Oddly enough, I thought it was the animal exploitation and death that bothered me. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
71. I'm a meat-eater and I call BS on this post. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 07:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
78. That's the stupidest thing I've ever read. |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
91. Do you have to get up early to come up with this stuff? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
42. I had a good satan curry for christmas. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
47. Great stuff: Cheap, nutritious, and easy to make. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
62. The seitan "chicken" at Horizons in Philadelphia is so toe-curlingly good. |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
80. The pulled-seitan sandwich at the Palomino in Milwakuee is like that. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #80 |
97. I don't know how close you are to Chicago |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
81. Good reading while eating my Xmas summer sausage and Inglehoffer mustard |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Mmm, I love good mustard on my seitan. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. You need a good seitan salami for a strong mustard. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #89 |
100. Yeah, most of the packaged ones suck. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-05-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Yep. I'll PM you. nt |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. That mustard is insanely good. Now I want some. |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-04-10 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
84. Just heard about this stuff today. |
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