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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:41 PM
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1981..Robert Gates invents Al Qeada to fight Russia.
Edited on Sat Jan-09-10 11:47 PM by lib2DaBone
2009.. Robert Gates is Secreary of Defense, appointed by Obama

2010...Al Qeada shows up everywhere the Oil Companies need Troops. Booga Booga

2010...Americans are Pissed off at being lied to

2011..America connects the dots..





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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:46 PM
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1. There are more dots than oil
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 12:03 AM by Oregone
The US has a bloated monster of a war machine, which acts, objectively, as a siphon of public funds to private shareholders of defense contractors.

For decades, the Cold War and demagoguery provided reasoning to rob the treasury from the people. When the wall went down, that reason disintegrated.

But post-9-11 thinking justifies keeping the bloated monster alive. The reasoning shifted from ensured nuclear destruction to brown skinned malcontent misfits who can't figure out how to ignite their underwear.

What a joke. You are all the punchline
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:50 PM
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4. Very Well Said
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 01:40 AM
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10. Absolutely right.
America objects to giving people decent standards of income protection against poverty, in case they spend it on alcohol, but few have any objections to spending more than EVERY other Country put together on arms?

WTF?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:48 PM
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2. It was a good idea at the time. nt
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:49 PM
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3. Bill Casey, not Robert Gates.
Reagan's evil old CIA chief.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 01:35 AM
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6. Go back even further: Zibgniew Brzezinski came up with that brilliant flash before 1979
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 01:37 AM by leveymg
Brzezinski "knowingly increased the probability that they (the Soviet Union) would invade" Afghanistan by supporting Afghan rebels before the invasion and drawing the Soviets into an "Afghan trap".

Well, Zibg, it looks like the Afghan Trap got us, too, in the end.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 01:37 AM
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8. Bingo...you and I posted nearly same time.
We should post the Brzezinski-Bin Laden photo, eh?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 01:39 AM
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9. Here it is. Osama looks every inch the British Staff Officer in that one.
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 01:49 AM by leveymg
Hmm . . . who put a Polish cavalry officer and a British Colonial Irregular in charge? What a recipe for disaster.

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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 01:48 AM
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11. Good job on finding it.
Doesn't Osama look cute in the Pak military uniform?:sarcasm:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 01:55 AM
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12. He was the head of Saudi paramilitary forces, you know. The ISI officer's dress fits him.
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 01:55 AM by leveymg
Was a lot more than a crazy rich boy playing Jihad. We continued to treat him as a ranking Saudi intel asset until the East Africa Embassy bombings in '98. Even then, we continued running his forces against the Russians and Serbs in Bosnia, Chechnya, Kosovo and Dagestan. We continued his services right through 09.11.01, in fact.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:51 PM
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5. Creating Terror by Nafeez Ahmed...
What we call "al Qaeda" was used extensively in the 1990s to advance US geopolitical interests in the former Soviet Union...

http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/23955
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 01:35 AM
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7. A good chunk of this crap goes back to Zbigniew Brzezinski...
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 01:54 AM by roamer65
Carter's national security advisor. He was one of the early neocon crowd and started agitating insurrection in Afghanistan BEFORE the Soviets invaded in 1979. The goal was to suck the Soviets into a Vietnam-style conflict in Afghanistan, by shipping weapons and support through Pakistan. We are seeing the blowback from this plan to this day.
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