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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:53 AM
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Palin: "Can I call you Joe" (because I can't remember your last name is BIDEN)
Her own handlers and the Republican operative who picked her as the last minute replacement for "Holy Joe" LIEberman on the McCain 2008 campaign threw her under the bus and ran it over her three or four times on 60 Minutes tonight!

It really just destroyed her:

1) Apparently the "Can I call you Joe" comment she made to Biden at the beginning of the Veep debate wasn't a way to put her on an equal playing level with the then Senator so much as it was a way to keep her from referring to "Joe" as Senator "O'Biden"... bwa ha ha.. she can't even keep the name of her opponent straight in her teeny little brain. Even then she managed to refer to him as Senator "O'Biden" at least once during the debate.

2) She didn't know ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING about anything outside the borders of the United States. She didn't understand basic U.S. history that any high school student is required to know as in what happened in and who the players were in : World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Iraq War (I or II). She didn't understand who her son was being shipped out to fight. She was made to study 15 hours a day and even then it apparently didn't sink in.

3) Her handlers blame HER and not Katy Couric for her crash and burn in the interview.

4) The guy that picked her basically said he picked her at the last moment and wouldn't say he'd support her for 2012. His kindest comment was "we lost by less than would would have otherwise" (apparently referring to a McCain/LIEberman ticket).

60 Minutes story on Palin was a total bloodbath tonight and I would pay good money to get it on DVD and send it to my uber Republican dad who thinks she's so fabulous. I just don't get it - even if I wanted to be a Republican (:puke:) she'd be the last person in the world I'd want to be my candidate.

I've decided she's that Suzanne Stone character from the Nicole Kidman movie "To Die For" - just a very shallow self serving back stabbing power grabber looking for her 15 minutes. This 60 Minutes report really does a lot to confirm my diagnosis.
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Kurt Remarque Donating Member (709 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:57 AM
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1. nothing new here but the media exposure
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:09 AM
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2. I said last week, she's less intelligent than most people I meet. She was a weenie they picked to
try and get female votes since a black man was on the other ticket, and a woman had lost to him. That would play to women they thought.... they thought wrong. LOL

I believed she couldn't remember his name, and this proves it for me, Senator O'Biden!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:16 AM
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3. "Can I call you Joe?" always struck me as the clumsy set-up line for "Say it ain't so, Joe!"
When she first greeted him, I thought, "Phony leveler." Then with that "Say it ain't so" line, I gagged. Now... well, every time I hear more about Ms. Sarah it's worse and worse.

Sorry I missed 60 Minutes!

Hekate

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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 04:11 AM
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17. We dodged a cannon ball, here's the video:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:08 AM
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19. The fact that she feels the need to explain it at all...
...is the tell. Her convoluted version is just another lie.

Surely her handlers impressed upon her the need to get permission to first-name Biden immediately, must so she could use the "say it ain't so, Joe" slogan.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:20 AM
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4. And she still has a group of rabid followers who will vote for her...
A Palin run would be an interesting train wreck to watch.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:22 AM
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5. like her they are "Fact challenged" and "faith based" voters...
indeed they give a whole new meaning to "faith based" voting.

:crazy:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:23 AM
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6. She makes me pine for the days of Dan Quayle.
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yodoobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:26 AM
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7. I figured it was a slimy attempt to associate to Osama
in folks minds

"OBiden" has a similar cadence to "Osama".

Either that or some weird contraction of Obama/Biden

Makes sense that there is an even simpler explanation.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:31 AM
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8. Her handlers stated on 60 Minutes that it was the latter - a conflation of Obama and Biden
she couldn't keep the two senators separate in her mind!

It actually wasn't an attempt to confuse Biden or Obama with Bin Laden.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:33 AM
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9. Seems to be a pre-emptive strike by the Republican power brokers?
Whatever happened to that 11th Commandment?

Perhaps they really are concerned that Palin could marshall enough teabaggers, rubes, and morons to be the Republican candidate in 2012. Schmidt may understand the potential disaster that Palin would be in this office, a disaster that transcends Party politics. Unfortunately, he opened Pandora's box and gave her the opportunity to become the darling of intellectually challenged voters everywhere. Regardless, this will only exacerbate the schism in the Republican/Right/Conservative amalgam.

If she truly thinks it's "God's will" that she was chosen to be the VP candidate, she'll probably believe that God's real plan was for her to run for President in 2012. In or out of the Republican Party....

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:38 AM
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12. Yeah they referred to the "God's will" stuff too..
it seems to be that they want her OUT and were all to happy to go on 60 Minutes and throw her under the bus, the train and the tank tonight. It's a circular firing squad in the GOP these days and the more sane Republicans are trying to throw the less sane teabaggers to the lions.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:04 AM
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21. Remember though, Palin attacked Schmidt first. She backstabs everyone she deals with.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:09 AM
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20. I recommend a good heart-to-heart with Katherine Harris...
...who could gently break it to Palin that she is, and always has been, disposable.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:35 AM
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10. All this discussion about how little she knew back then
lowers the bar for her. If she knows anything at all by 2012, her supporters in the MSM (and she has many of them because there is lots of money behind her) will point to how much she has "learned" and how willing and able she is to learn.

Sarah Palin does not have the right stuff to be president. She is not so ignorant that she does not even recognize that her ignorance disqualifies her for the presidency.

If you read books on the lives of our great presidents such as Abraham Lincoln, you are struck by how diligently they applied themselves at an early age to learn and how they seem to have begun unwittingly no doubt to prepare themselves for the grave responsibilities of the presidency as children.

Sarah Palin is a celebrity. She is a political movie star. She is playing a role. The presidency demands a deep commitment to study and mastering the details of foreign and domestic policy.

George W. Bush, as disastrous as he was, was better prepared than Sarah Palin.

Let's make sure that the discussion of Palin's lack of knowledge in 2008 does not become an advantage in a race against a better candidate. Thanks, but no thanks to Sarah Palin.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:43 AM
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13. Sarah is scary even compared to George but neither of them should be allowed to run a McDonald's
drivethrough window.

As Chris Rock said "Bush is not just the worst President of the United States ever, he's the worst President ever, worst PTA President, Homeowners association President, Major league baseball President.. the worst. President. Ever."

As Rock said "nobody gives less of a fuck than George Bush.. if you were hanging from a cliff about to die and a fuck would save you and Bush was standing at the edge with a pocket full of fucks and you asked him for a fuck he'd say sorry.. I don't give a fuck".

I love those quotes.

Sarah is even scarier than Bush though because he just pretended to be a religious wing-nut. She ACTUALLY believes all the religious wing-nut crap! She's a religious theocratic zealot with no understanding or relationship to the factual world.
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557188 Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:36 AM
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11. Who cares?
She is a typical dumb Republican. But the way people obsess over her is downright creepy.

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:45 AM
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14. Umm as dumb as Republicans are.. she's really the queen of dumb.
and it's good to put that out and not let HER frame her own image as George W. Bush did in 1999/2000.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 03:28 AM
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15. I hope I'm wrong but we should
discount or laugh at Palin at our own peril. She has already been a governor of a state and chosen to run on a national ticket. That she has gotten THAT far is amazing and disturbs me no end. After 8 years of Bush/Cheney (where I saw things happening in and to my country that I never thought I'd see), I don't laugh at or discount Palin.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 03:57 AM
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16. Hell, she was "discovered" via Google...
and her background check was performed on the internet. I'm surprised she could remember any part of the Democratic party candidates' names.

They got what they asked for.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:49 AM
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18. It is all so obvious and confirming of what we pieced together, she was and
still is an insulated radical of narrow beliefs who does one thing very well - she pushes the buttons of evangelicals and bigots and people who wallow in lies they tell each other - she is familiar and at home with them. She just has a bigger stage. She is probably never going to understand those who don't fit into the evangelical and bigot mold.
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