jasi2006
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:13 AM
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Why doesn't thw WORLD adopt Haiti right now? |
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The every wealthy nation including the UAE could donate $10/Haitian. Put the funds into a Haiti only account, bearing interest, and use the money to train and pay farmers, builders, and security, and waste removal workers within the country. The US, UK, UAE, Israel, Canada and others could pay a cadre of architects and building contractors to go there and manage and oversee clean-up and rebuilding. If we can pay Blackwater we should be able to pay folks to do good. In the long-run, we would be building a new nation, a real friend.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:15 AM
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1. Haiti is full of dark people aka Black folk or Negroes...no way any nation |
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is going to adopt a bunch of Negroes.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:16 AM
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2. does your "no way ANY nation" include nations in Africa as well? nt |
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:21 AM
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8. Yup. It includes Africa as well. No one nation rushed to Rawanda. GENOCIDE |
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and crickets chirped. SAD SHIT.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:17 AM
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3. When I think back to how our own nation treated NOLA post Katrina |
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Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 10:20 AM by hlthe2b
even to the point of refusing or wasting foreign aid efforts, it is amazing that the sense of idealism in the OP continues... Maybe this time...?.:shrug:
However, given the numbers of homeless on our own streets, the suffering that continues in New Orleans, this will be extremely tough to shift major resources beyond the immediate search and rescue efforts.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:21 AM
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9. +99999999 gazillion brazillion trillion billion |
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:31 AM
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jasi2006
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:29 AM
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16. I like to think of it as an expression of humaness or humanity. |
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No matter what you say about NO or my idealism, two wrongs never made a right and we should never waste a chance to help those undergoing such devastation. Yes, I thought we should have done much more and sooner for NO but then you had a different administration and Miss. and Alabama GOP propagandiaing the "moralality" of NO vs the good ole folks in their states. It's a different day. Just because we and the world are not helping people everywhere doesn't mean we could not and should not help people somewhere.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:38 AM
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23. They will get search and rescue help... no doubt |
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Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 10:54 AM by hlthe2b
Whether they will get mega dollars for reconstruction will be a harder sell, idealism or not... With a horrendous world economy, those are the facts... No one, and I mean NO ONE here is suggesting they should not get help. Do not make the mistake in your well intentioned fervor, of suggesting so. It is NOT fair and NOT true. I dare say most of us have already availed ourselves of the texting donation to red cross, the 800 donation lines to Unicef, and other routes of charity. I, myself have to weigh the extent of donations I can make to Haiti, as opposed to the food banks and charities providing food to my own homeless community members. I pass those lines daily as I drive by and am honest enough to realize that "there but for the grace of God, go I." So, I have to find the balance of personal help to Haiti versus desperate need for community help, as well.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:19 AM
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5. and without the fun celebrities and fun stereotype that Jamaica has! |
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Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 10:19 AM by YOY
Granted Wyclef Jean aside I can rattle off 3 or 4 famous (not infamous) Jamaicans...Haiti? Not so much.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:30 AM
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18. Yeah, but they speak French, which is seen as 'cool'. nt |
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:17 AM
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You can bet that we'd be all over the place if we could extract some oil contracts.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:19 AM
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6. yep..no resources we can take |
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:22 AM
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10. Cynicism continued: Blackwater (Xe) can only reap... |
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the "benefit" of target practice.....:mad: (Yes, I really do think that little of Blackwate (Xe)
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:22 AM
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11. Another truth finds the light. |
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:20 AM
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7. Haiti committed the most egregious of sins back in 1791 |
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Black slaves threw down their shackles and rebelled against their white overlords. Since then, Europe has been "teaching them a lesson".
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:26 AM
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13. That's right. Haiti will never be forgiven. There will be a big show |
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of sending aid and there will be a huge gathering of vampires who will skim most of it and meanwhile the people will continue to be the poorest in the world.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:23 AM
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12. Haiti was stripped of its resources following the Neoliberal agenda imposed by the big powers. |
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Workers are often abused and poorly paid by foreign corporations, and Haiti's once beautiful forests have all but been destroyed by rampant logging. You can actually see Haiti in satellite photos of that island. It's the side of the island that lacks green. The loss of the forests represents a loss of future revenue for the island nation, as it could've aided the island in forging a good eco-tourism sector, which would only bring in revenues that would help the locals of the island. No, they cut down all the trees instead and stripped the land of resources.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:28 AM
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15. I heard this morning that 30 yrs ago, Haiti was self sufficience |
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and now because we've dumped rice there, the ag section has been destroyed and they have to import 80% of their food.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:29 AM
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17. that model has been followed in many of the carribean islands |
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:27 AM
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14. Every person can donate individually - |
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Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 10:28 AM by stray cat
Nothing is stopping anyone. After all - your money and mine is what the government would send anyway since they have no other money but tax dollars.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:30 AM
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19. We should force wall street to donate. |
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They will still be scum but at least their greed will help rather than harm somebody.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:52 AM
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24. You are absolutely right and I would encourage anyone who can do so to make |
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a donation through whatever organization they prefer. My choice is Doctors Without Borders since they already have a hospital there (which was apparently badly damaged in the quake) and they are a wonderful humanitarian organization. Even small donations help.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:30 AM
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20. sorry, we are too busy using our money to bomb dark people in afghanistan |
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the USA prefers killing over saving people.
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Wed Jan-13-10 10:33 AM
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22. They could use some tips from the Israelis.......because |
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Haiti is a wasteland, very dry,a lot of erosion,etc. They have cut down too many trees, the soil is dry and barren. They need to learn how to bring the soil back...the Israelis took a desert land, and look at what they accomplished.
I was in Haiti two years ago this month, it is so poor, the people are wonderful, but lack motivation and hope of any kind. All the wonderful mahogany trees have been cut down, to be carved up and sold as souvenirs to tourist.
We stayed in a little, nice hotel in Petionville, where the center of the earthquake struck. Petionville is halfway up the mountains (where the air is "cleaner", although I still had problems breathing)....the wealthy live up in the mountains, where the air is better. A lot of pollution, and dry, dusty air in the city.
Poor, poor people, I feel so bad for them.
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Wed Jan-13-10 11:16 AM
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25. Because a poor nation without natural resources and made up of, what, |
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Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 11:17 AM by kestrel91316
99% descendents of former slaves, needs to get a stiff upper lip and pull itself up by its own bootstraps. :sarcasm:
Unfortunately, nobody in Haiti even had boots.
If they have to rebuild, BTW, we should do like Greensburg KS and make an environmental example out of them. For starters, every household in the country should get a solar oven. The developed nation has the money. We can do it.
And we need a Haitian Waathari Mangai, or TreePeople, or whatever, for reforestation. Half their problem is secondary to environmental degradation.
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