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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:58 PM
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I ventured into the asylum at FR to see what they thought of the SCOTUS ruling
They seem to be all up in arms that the President and Congress are trying to mitigate the damage and on and on they went about how the 1st amendment is being upheld by this. I'm just wondering. Has anyone told them yet that it allows foreign corporations to spend unlimited money, too? I mean, wasn't that foreign money given to some Democrats in the past a big issue for them. Wonder when that part's going to hit them?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:59 PM
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1. You'd have to frame it as "do you know this means illegals can buy your elections"
before it would even register with them.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:01 PM
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7. Oh, that would work
I would have thought their first concern would have been China. I'm betting they don't get it that this applies to foreign corporations as well.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:51 PM
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30. China? Because of what happened in 1996, right?
1996 United States campaign finance controversy article on Wikipedia - documents how Chinese associates of Bill Clinton & Al Gore were accused of donating illegally to Clinton's 1996 presidential campaign.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:02 PM
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8. Freepers are always for the unfettered free market, until it comes down
to who you can hire. If a market was totally free, there should be no restrictions. But freepers are always for government control when it comes to illegal aliens. Government should not, for instance, tell someone they cannot pollute or gouge, but they sure should be able to tell you that you can't hire someone born other than on the purple mountain majesties of the U.S.

and to be sure they'd like to have even more illegals by not having birthright citizenship.

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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:08 PM
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18. Not quite. Employer should be free to hire whoever he chooses.
"Illegals" should not be permitted to be where they can be hired. But since they are, employer should also be free to set the terms of that employment.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:25 PM
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25. Freepers would be fine with no restrictions on say just hiring white people
But restrictions on hiring someone born in another country? that's OK. That's not the free market but freepers don't care about the free market in this instance.

and freepers always claim their ancestors came to the US legally.

:rofl:
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:02 PM
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11. Not just illegals, anyone. The Chinese. Scary brown people. Whoever
they're shit-scared of this week.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:15 PM
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24. Yup. China can now directly buy our elections. And why shouldn't they?
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 10:17 PM by w4rma
If I were running China, I'd buy American elections and install politicians that will, using newly Chinese written laws, hand over our secrets to China. Easy and bloodless. Win!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:16 AM
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28. and the Abortion Industry™ is going to start ginning up sales and funding Democrats
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:57 PM
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29. That's right. And the Big Gay Agenda.at Pepsi!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:59 PM
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2. Freepers are idiots
It is likely they think whoever has money should be able to use it to buy whatever ads they want to in any time. Knowing, of course, that favors Republicans.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:00 PM
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3. Freepers are idiots
It is likely they think whoever has money should be able to use it to buy whatever ads they want to in any time. Knowing, of course, that favors Republicans.

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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:00 PM
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4. Freepers love getting screwed by corporations. It's orgasmic.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:00 PM
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5. Do they realize it allows corporations to give money to either side, not just their side?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:03 PM
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12. I think that suits them.
A Democrat beholden to a corporate interest is little more than a Repuke.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:04 PM
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15. well, that's true. nt
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:03 PM
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13. No, but they will whine if big Hollywood types give a lot of money and
if Michael Moore does a big film and puts it on within 30 days of a primary.

The media is so against them. :sarcasm:
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:03 PM
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14. I think they have some ideas it's only the unions they have to worry about with Democrats
I don't think they get it that our guys have been bought by the corporate interests, too. But I would, really, have thought the foreign corporations coming in with tons of cash to influence our elections would have hit home with them.
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:14 PM
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23. At that point having different "sides" will be like favoring one sports team over another
what they say won't matter -- both sides will do the bidding of our corporate overlords or face the consequences.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:01 PM
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6. outsourcing election funding n/t
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:02 PM
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9. Don't forget Unions.
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Zo Zig Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:02 PM
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10. Speechless
For them to understand your logic it would require critical thinking, isn't going to happen.
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:04 PM
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16. Aside from Freepers, many Repukes will not agree with this ruling.
It's faulty on its face. It's got the makings of disaster for all of those RW'ers who want less taxes and less spending.

Government contracts will be sold to the highest bidder, and we'll all be paying the tab. Ask the freepers how this won't happen.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:07 PM
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17. I try not to talk to any unless I know them personally
But I would have thought someone there would have been up in arms about it. Not sure if that part hasn't been conveyed yet or if now it's ok with them. I just remember all the endless crap about Gore and the Buddhist temple thing from the RW.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:13 AM
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27. my wingnut brother in law
and my right/center dad both thought the ruling was horrible. And my BiL is a regular O'Reilly/Beck viewer.

I talked him into being for Medicare For All. It's not that hard, really. The Dems couldn't do it because they really didn't want to.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:10 PM
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19. Tell them Fox will not be able to deny any ads,
even if thy are from George Soros.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:11 PM
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20. Immigrants bad, foreign corporations good.
Hmmm...
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:13 PM
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22. Very classist attitudes. nt
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:12 PM
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21. We hate it, so they love it. It's that simple, and childish.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:12 AM
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26. They won't care until the corporations go after their candidates
Then it will dawn on them this is a bad thing, but it will be too late.
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