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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:05 PM
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Poll question: Should Roe v. Wade be discarded because it was decided by an all male Supreme Court?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:06 PM
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1. Ok, it takes a lot to make me dumbfounded & you just succeeded.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:07 PM
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2. No.
Abortion should be legal. It doesn't matter what the composition of the Supreme Court was at that time.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:08 PM
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3. That's an odd question
Should Brown Vs. Board of Education be discarded because there weren't any black people on the bench at that time? Can white males care about justice?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:09 PM
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6. you took the words right out of my mouth
This poll is just stupid.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:12 PM
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10. Not really, it has been repeatedly said that men have no place deciding the issue of abortion...
Edited on Wed Apr-25-07 05:13 PM by originalpckelly
I would take a decision by a court solely composed of men to be men deciding an issue, and Roe v. Wade was decided by a court of only men.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:16 PM
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19. I'm not sure about this
Men and Woman have a role in deciding what our society is going to do about abortion, because that's how a democracy works. But most people here are dedicated to the idea that men should have no control over what a woman does with her body. I should note that women should not have control over what another woman does with her body. Hamsters should not have control over what a woman does with her body. Nobody but the woman involved should have control over her body.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:19 PM
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24. Those leading questions just bite you on the ass. nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:15 PM
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17. Well, one could go even further and repeal the 19th Amendment since ...
... not one female voted in favor of it. The two-thirds vote in both chambers of Congress and three-quarters of all state legislatures that ratified it were all males, as were the voters who put them in office.

Bizarre times. :crazy:
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:08 PM
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4. as opposed to all but one right now???
paluease
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:11 PM
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9. No, in favor of an all woman panel of judges specially created to decide the issue...
If men have no place deciding the issue, then the decision that allows abortion cannot stand as it was decided exclusively by men.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:09 PM
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5. What kind of question is this?
Are you suggesting that an alternative court should have made the decision?

Wait, I was around in early 70s. I'm thinking, I'm thinking... Nope - no all female court to take it to.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:12 PM
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13. I think he's all hot and bothered by this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x754982

I'm guessing he misread it, then stuck his foot in his mouth.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:15 PM
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15. I asked a valid question. If men cannot decide the issue of abortion...
Edited on Wed Apr-25-07 05:15 PM by originalpckelly
and a vast majority of people believe that, why then should a legal decision by men and only men on abortion hold true?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:30 PM
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30. Maybe you should reread the original question.
Before digging yourself deeper.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:17 PM
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23. I'm curious Bornagain - do you think an all female court
should be appointed to decide if male circumcision is legal?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:26 PM
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27. And why should a woman have any place talking about circumcision?
Or a woman on any court deciding what should or shouldn't be legal in this regard? She can't know what it's like to be a guy.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:27 PM
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28. I didn't ask you. n/t
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:29 PM
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29. It's a very good question though.
One I'd never thought about.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:10 PM
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7. self delete
Edited on Wed Apr-25-07 05:11 PM by rinsd
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:10 PM
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8. crafty
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:12 PM
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11. LOL! Just when you think it can't get any weirder...
... Does it matter that Roe has been upheld, in a variety of ways, by later courts WITH women on them?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:13 PM
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14. No man can be present. If men have no say whatsoever...
then any decision with a male justice from the SCOTUS or in a lower court with judges can be valid.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:12 PM
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12. What about a Catholic Court?
Religious Affiliation of the U.S. Supreme Court

John Roberts (Chief Justice) Catholic

Stephen G. Breyer Jewish

Ruth Bader Ginsburg Jewish

Anthony M. Kennedy Catholic

Antonin Scalia Catholic

David H. Souter Episcopalian

John Paul Stevens Protestant

Clarence Thomas Catholic

Samuel Alito Catholic
http://www.adherents.com/adh_sc.html
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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:16 PM
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18. *thawps forehead*
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:15 PM
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16. This is another odd poll. First, is the fetus property and now this?
:shrug:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:16 PM
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20. I think everyone drank a big cup of Batshit Insanity this morning.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:17 PM
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22. A vast majority of people responded "no" to the following poll question:
"Should men have any official say in whether abortion is legal and available to women?"

I take a decision by the SCOTUS made by men as an official legal decision.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:21 PM
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25. That's because men give us cooties. nt
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:16 PM
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21. If you're confused, check out this thread
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:22 PM
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26. Would it be acceptable if an all-male court made abortion illegal?
If the people with the Y chromosome are on our side, that's cool. I think the issue in the original thread was that people with Y chromosomes have no business telling us that we can't have abortions. If they can see injustice in the legal system and act to correct it, that's fine.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:54 PM
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37. Thank-you Sleebarker!...
You get it; you really really get it...
...and I appreciate it.
Lee
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:56 PM
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39. So someone has say so long as they agree with you?
I was under the impression that democracies don't work that way, are you using President Bushes definition of compromise to help you form your idea of a democracy?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:32 PM
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31. This is dipping dangerously close to a new low on this topic
Why people cannot have a rational discussion w/o going over the top when it comes to abortion is a mystery that remains to be solved.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:33 PM
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32. No, because Roe v. Wade leaves the DECISION up to INDIVIDUAL WOMEN.
Beyond that, I think you should be required to finish your previous flamebait threads on this topic before starting a new one.

:eyes:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:35 PM
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33. Should the Constitution be discarded because it was written by white men?..n/t
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:39 PM
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34. A majority of America's demographics did not approve of the US Constitution.
Edited on Wed Apr-25-07 05:40 PM by originalpckelly
Maybe it should be tossed because of that, it really wasn't approved by a significant majority of Americans, because a majority of Americans were not represented in the state legislatures that approved the US Constitution.

Poor white men, black slaves of both sexes, women. You know this document doesn't have the consent of the people, only rich white old men.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:45 PM
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35. You know this is true folks. A majority of Americans didn't approve of this document.
And even they had, that back in the 1700s, this is 21st century. What right do people who kept slaves, barbarized the Native Americans, or oppressed women have to tell us anything about freedom and liberty? Aren't they big fucking hypocrites?
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:50 PM
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36. It's just a retort
To my poll about whether men should have a say in abortion rights...legally. *snort*...
Lee
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 05:55 PM
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38. You're right, it is. Unfortunately we don't have some way to add a poll onto another...
as a sort of a follow up question. That's a good idea, because I've seen lots of discussion that go this way.

Yes, it's a retort, but you have to admit it does make sense. If men can't decide the issue of abortion, then men can't decide the issue abortion.
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