Why can't our candidates be more like Dennis Kucinich?

[LoZoccolo]

This is probably because Dennis Kucinich doesn't even have to be Dennis Kucinich. In other words, he knows that he will not be elected president, nor will many of his bills pass (has he had one ever pass?), so he can promise anything he wants to with little consequence.

[Xipe Totec]

1. Short, ineffective, and annoying?

They're working on it.

[cliffordu]

9. Well...

BWAHAH hahAHAHAHahaH AHA AH AHAHAHAHH!!!!

Well played!!

[Bluebear]

13. You're referring to this OP, yes?

[Electric Monk]

19. win

[vadawg]

22. rofl, my one is the alien thing, you gotta love the guy if only for his comedy relief..

[DevonRex]

51. I love him for his elf ears.

:evilgrin:

[swezwho]

85. How inattentive...

There was no "alien thing". He said he saw a UFO - an unidentified flying object, which is not at all the same thing. Airline pilots and police officers see that sort of thing occasionally too. Are they automatically comic relief as well?

[Fumesucker]

2. Why can't some DUers post an OP that doesn't immediately get unrecced into oblivion?

[LoZoccolo]

4. I did just a few days ago. n/t

[Fumesucker]

10. ROFL.. send me a link, I'd love to see it..

BTW, I seldom unrec anything and I don't do it to your posts..

[LoZoccolo]

17. Here it is.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=433&topic_id=156969

[Fumesucker]

21. Good for you...

My own feeling is that speeches don't mean much though, I learned long ago to pay attention to what politicians do rather than what they say since they tend to lie, a lot.

[Forkboy]

47. That's like asking people to K&R is they think sex is fun.

[Ignis]

60. Did you catch this gem of a post therein?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=433&topic_id=156969#157031

[Forkboy]

62. Sums up LoZo perfectly.

:)

[freddie mertz]

54. Wow, THAT was a risky one.

You seem to have a real talent for wasting bandwidth.

[Xipe Totec]

5. Lack of people skills?

:shrug:

[Prometheus Bound]

15. Same reason some dogs chase trucks on the highway, I suppose.

They must know it's gonna end badly, having perhaps been hit before and survived, but some uncontrollable basic instinct keeps them going after those tires.

[scheming daemons]

3. Because they actually want to win elections?

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[REP]

7. Deeply held convictions until they run for President?

Someone had to say it. I hope I'm the first.

[MrSlayer]

8. Because the owners of the country won't allow it.

Pretty simple. Kucinich and his ilk are only allowed to hang around to give us the illusion of freedom. If he were an actual threat he'd be crushed.

[karynnj]

27. If you mean the voters, I agree - The majority of voters are unimpressed with him

[treestar]

67. I challenge that

Dennis was on the debates with the others who were running for the Dem primary. If the people wanted him to win, they'd have rallied around, he'd have been in the news and the news forced to cover his activities.

I just don't subscribe to the doctrine we are helpless pawns of corporations.

If his ideas has resonated with the majority of Americans, they would have voted for him in the primary. And then the election.

Not that I don't agree with a lot of what he says.

[laughingliberal]

82. "I just don't subscribe to the doctrine we are helpless pawns of corporations."

Unfortunately, just because you don't subscribe to this does not mean it isn't true. After 30 years of relentless trickle down brainwashing by right wing politicians and their puppy dog press, nothing that benefits average Americans is going to 'resonate' much with average Americans.

[treestar]

93. If you really believe they are helpless pawns of corporations,

which you apparently do - they your goal must be to find a way to get our hands on as much money as possible so that we can do the manipulating rather than the Republicans? Only if we get more $$ than they will we win?

You're in effect saying the people are so helpless that whoever buys the seats wins.

So how do we get the most $$ to Dennis, so he can buy the Presidency?

[spoony]

11. Why are you such a Dem basher? nt

[bridgit]

12. Unless & Until it involves Soda Pop Babies - I am disinclined to endorse here

[Skittles]

14. utter fucking bullshit

[Enthusiast]

31. There, fixed that for you.

Utter fucking Republican bullshit

[Individualist]

16. DLC sucks

[Book Lover]

18. Better question: why can't our candidate *be* Kucinich?

Yeah, yeah, he's short; the country hates real progressives; be practical; blah, blah, blah.

[karynnj]

26. Because he didn't get more than 1 or 2 percent of the people to support him

It has little to do with him being short - he is 5' 7", Howard Dean is 5' 8 1/2" and he was the frontrunner for several months and lack of height had nothing to do with his loss.

[Echo In Light]

50. Brainwashed populace. Corp culture has conditioned the public mind to its chief aims/value$

[laughingliberal]

83. Ding Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! nt

[politicasista]

71. Delete n/t

[Raineyb]

20. Why do people insist on posting bullshit over and over again?

At least that would be an interesting OP that doesn't completely waste time.

For a progressive site there's a lot of progressive bashing (or bashing of people that progressives like) around here.

:thumbsdown:

Oh and unrec for fuckery.

[Tailormyst]

23. It's all the poster ever seems to post

probably just your run of the mill internet drama junkie.

[cali]

24. why can't LoZo get over his obsession with Dennis?

Ah, those puzzling eternal questions.

[asdjrocky]

25. Do you ever post anything that isn't flamebate?

And who do you know that your threads don't get locked?

[mmonk]

28. Because people incorrectly think the status quo of the party makeup is smart and good.

[ima_sinnic]

29. does it make you feel like a big he-man to bash Dennis?

little insecure people talk shit about others under the delusion that it makes them look "big."
au contraire, it makes them look insecure, shallow, petty, and not very bright.

[stray cat]

30. How has Dennis faired in national elections? I think they want candidates who can win

in someplace other than a congressional district for the senate

[Enthusiast]

32. I have to give you credit.

This time you did not call Dennis names. See, many of us love Dennis and completely disagree with your post.

[Tailormyst]

34. That is why he posts it

He doesn't really care about Dennis one way or the other. He just enjoys the fact that his posts upset people. It's a pretty common online behavior. These types always seem to peter out over time. Either they get bored or the forum gets tired of the crap.

[LoZoccolo]

35. You don't think that people compare other Democrats to Dennis Kucinich?

It's never used to denigrate other candidates?

[Tailormyst]

38. I think you like to stir things up.

That is what I have observed. I think you read through these threads and thoroughly enjoy the drama you have created.

[LoZoccolo]

41. I can't prove that I don't, and you can't prove that I do.

Does anybody actually want to defend this tactic of using Dennis Kucinich to attack other Democrats, or am I right either way?

[Tailormyst]

44. I just go on what I see.

I will leave it at that.

Enjoy your day.

[Bluebear]

49. nodding

[LWolf]

33. They lack the integrity gene. nt

[Robb]

36. I gave Dennis the benefit of the doubt until he defended the teabaggers. nt

[mochajava666]

37. Trustworthy, compassionate, intelligent

I think those traits describe Kucinich as well as Howard Dean and the late Paul Wellstone. I want our candidates to have those traits also.

Why be so derisive toward him? He stands for what he believes, and he's just a congressman, so he is no huge threat to the status quo all by himself. I think of him like George McGovern in his later years when he was called the conscience of the Democratic party. I like Dean's comment about the Democratic wing of the Democratic party. Certainly our party can allow a few dreamers. Ridiculed at first, some dreamers have later been described as visionaries.

Use this energy to attack the true evil, the Republicans. These are perilous times and the stakes are high.

For every time a Democrat attacks another well meaning Democrat, a redneck gets a tooth.

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[mochajava666]

43. I don't know about "many hardcore followers"

I admire him, yet I've never voted for him. I liked his issues, but in the age of TV, he is just a non-starter. Just as FDR would be today.

Maybe there is a small, but vocal, hard core following on DU, and I, too, have to give him credit on being right on so many issues. There are many ineffective leaders in the House from my state, but I would settle for them being right as much as Dennis is. I think that's where the following comes from.

As far as the "Limey hippie chick", give me a break! If you looked like Dennis and a hot, intelligent woman that is totally in love with who you are (it can't be looks or power), you would say to her, I'm sorry, I'm too shallow to deal with your beauty. Right.

If he flip-flopped on choice, he flipped in the choice direction, didn't he? I hope so. If not, I would find that hypocritical with his general world view as I understand it.

Anyway, he is a progressive democrat, so IMHO, he shouldn't receive such derision on a progressive board. Plus, 'necks with teeth scare me.

[Bluebear]

65. .

wrong spot

[Hell Hath No Fury]

63. "Limey hippie chick"?

Wow, that statement says so much more about you than her. :eyes:

[Forkboy]

64. That "limey hippie chick" would be a step up from your hand.

[Bluebear]

66. "Limey hippie chick" ???? Really, go away.

[Toasterlad]

40. President Palin Thanks You

The more the Democratic party pulls to the right, the less relevant and effective they will be.

[Ignis]

61. +1

Some people strongly disagree with Nader's 1999 "no difference between Bush vs. Gore" statement, yet they're quite happy to turn that statement a reality.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

42. Why do you constantly malign Democrats?

Have you ever posted anything with the same amount of venom for Republicans?

[LoZoccolo]

45. I have a longstanding policy of steering away from posting things which aren't novel.

The only Republicans here are the splinterists, which I have a long record of attacking.

[Forkboy]

46. Like you and your oil promise!

All this time I've been thinking you're a troll when really you're just DK!!!!!!

[seeinfweggos]

48. married to women half their age? nt

[t0dd]

52. And what exactly does that have to do with anything?

Last time I checked, they are both adults and capable of making their own decisions. But I guess in your sheltered little world closeness in age is a huge criterion for determining whether a relationship is possible.

[Forkboy]

53. Shallow mind, shallow judgments.

[Bluebear]

90. .

[ROFF]

55. I think that Kucinich

is the only Democrat that Palin could beat in a fair election.

[johnnie]

56. .

:boring:

[Ardent15]

57. Because as admirable as his convictions are, there just aren't enough people...

...who want to vote for someone who doesn't pick his battles.

[Romulox]

58. LOLOLzoco is a GREAT poster...

:rofl:

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[kctim]

59. Votes, plain and simple

there are more Democrats than liberals/progressives.
I would never vote for Palin and dread the thought of her as President, but if DK was running against her I would still write in Mickey Mouse or 2x4.

[PeaceBlimp]

68. they sell their votes

Dennis has every same chance of losing his office as anyone else. I think it's because most candidates sell their votes. They are greedy. Next best reason is they simply lack guiding principles.

But all this is really a reflection of US. We have to vote the people who let us down us out of office!

[spoony]

70. How is this piece of garbage still open?

So much for the new, responsive and civil DU.

[bridgit]

72. They need to embrace the wonders of loft via undiluted 'principle' - the pure driven snow of politic

[G_j]

73. we elected Lieberman as VP, so your guess is as good as mine... nt

[leftstreet]

74. Locking

I've always wanted to say that

:beer:

[inna]

75. :rolls eyes: .... thank you for your valuable - as always - contribution.

[apocalypsehow]

76. True stuff. Can't Rec because of +24, but Kick. n/t.

[anonymous171]

77. I used to be like you. Here's a tip: Read up on some history

Specifically, American History during the 20th century.

[spoony]

78. How much do you pay for the privelege of making this site your litterbox?

It must be a fuckload.

[Starry Messenger]

79. Word salad. n/t

[Bluebear]

86. with very lite dressing

[Starry Messenger]

87. so lite it's a mist

[20score]

80. .

Screw it. I like what I wrote at first, but I don't want to waste it on this post.

[Electric Monk]

81. .

Your post was better before the edit, re: OP

[Bluebear]

94. .

[smalll]

84. Cause they all can't be local candidates - with wives way taller and way hotter

than they deserve? :shrug:

(Not to knock da Kooch esactly even as a moderate, generally-pro-capitalist Dem, I can get behind Single Payer. :shrug: )

[flvegan]

88. "Deserve"???

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[suede1]

91. Every person in this thread making fun of Dennis Kucinich - most of them no more intelligently than

a sadistic 12 year old - should make good people ill.

[Socal31]

92. Mandatory federal gun buyback program?

Do you want EVERY (D) candidate to fail? The 2nd amendment is an issue that crosses party lines. Attacking it is political suicide.