berni_mccoy
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Wed Feb-03-10 09:18 AM
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Big Story Today: Underwear Bomber Singing Like a Jail Bird. Obama's Non-Torture Policy Vindicated |
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Edited on Wed Feb-03-10 09:21 AM by berni_mccoy
It's all over MSNBC right now. The Bomber has been cooperative and giving up real intel. "Speaking freely" is the term being used.
The MSM is even saying this is Vindication for the Obama Administration's policy on treatment of enemy prisoners.
Even better, they showed Sen. Collins lambasting Obama's policy in a web-address this weekend and then noted that she probably wasn't aware that the bomber had been spilling his guts. It was an awesome clip.
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Wed Feb-03-10 09:20 AM
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1. OMG, does this mean that 24 is just a TV show and things seen in it should not be used in real life? |
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Edited on Wed Feb-03-10 09:21 AM by ck4829
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Wed Feb-03-10 09:47 AM
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that would only be call "17 and a bit" cos there wouldn't be endless inane adverts.
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Wed Feb-03-10 11:08 AM
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11. I stopped watching the show after they started torturing people |
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I don't need that in my house.
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Wed Feb-03-10 09:34 AM
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2. How many ways are there for the so-called conservatives |
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to ignore this? Or they will just think they are lying. Maybe claim that it's bad security to announce that he is talking. The last thing that will happen is any acknowledgment that the policy is vindicated.
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Wed Feb-03-10 09:38 AM
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3. CNN said he has been talking for weeks-per the Feds- and that we flew his |
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family here to convince him to talk.
I'm pretty sure his family didn't waterboard him mush, either....
rec. Suck it, republicans. mark
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Wed Feb-03-10 09:43 AM
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4. But watch the right wing nuts will be out in full force saying the reason he is |
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singing his heart out is because he's afraid of being water boarded so water boarding is working. Remember they are of the twisted thinking mind.
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Wed Feb-03-10 09:46 AM
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5. So the threat of tickling them to death really works! |
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Wed Feb-03-10 09:48 AM
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7. i suspect that the evil spawn liz cheney will be out in defense of her daddy |
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Wed Feb-03-10 09:49 AM
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8. but what is he saying? |
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"some guy told me this was a security exercise" or "we have a million African swallows, fully laden with tiny dirty bombs ready to be launched"
who was he working with/for?
will he be used to justify expansion of the war on terror or will he be treated like a criminal?
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Wed Feb-03-10 10:40 AM
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9. I suspect whatever he said... |
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Wed Feb-03-10 10:41 AM
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10. Sheesh, all that with no waterboarding....where's the fun.... |
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Wed Feb-03-10 11:10 AM
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12. Intelligence officers from WW II said they got way more playing chess than torturing. |
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Wed Feb-03-10 11:11 AM
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13. People are not tortured to make them talk. Torture is a means of silencing people. |
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Bush and Cheney didn't have people tortured to uncover terrorist plots or to bring anyone to justice; they tortured people to cover up their own failures and culpability in terrorist actions.
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Wed Feb-03-10 11:18 AM
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14. Or to put a "truthy" face on whatever they wanted to assert. |
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Craig Murray implied as much when I saw him speak about 4 years ago. In short, torture allows you to specify what you want the person being tortured to say. Then you can cite it as a source. Horrifying.
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Wed Feb-03-10 11:22 AM
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Torture is used to make people talk. But it's not used to make people tell the truth.
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Wed Feb-03-10 12:05 PM
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18. It destroys the credibility of what the victim says, thus "silencing" them. |
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Citing these words as a source isn't usually the point of torture. The citation of the source is merely a threat of further torture.
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Wed Feb-03-10 11:20 AM
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15. His family encouraged him to talk, and if he was not threated he probably |
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felt more comfortable opening up.
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Wed Feb-03-10 02:00 PM
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20. Precisely. Good for the president. n/t |
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Wed Feb-03-10 11:34 AM
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17. Does thuis mean that--GASP--Rush is WRONG? |
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Teeheehee! :rofl::bounce:
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Wed Feb-03-10 01:59 PM
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19. Indeed. But he can dance, can't he? |
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