How much of the fear/hate of Obama and the Democratic "left" agenda

[old mark]

comes from fear of the societal changes of the emerging 21st century world? I mean, combined, of course, with teh stupid traditional to the right/fundies...how much is just plain fear of change, period?

Obama's "progressive" "hard left" policies so far are conservative to me, at least.

mark

[NightWatcher]

1. 1. Obama is not "Progressive". 2. 85% of the hate from the right is race based

3. the repukes want power and to get it back Obama, and the USA, must fail

4. fear of change? big business has guaranteed that there will be no real change by padding the campaigns with a flood of money.

[old mark]

2. Not POLITICAL change, so much as the day to day changes that come

with the times.
It is a very different world than is was 30 years ago, even different from the '90's.

mark

[Echo In Light]

3. RW/Corporate interests have been framing the 'light' version of themselves as 'far left' for decades

The idea being to seed the public mind according to their aims, so that over time, fewer and fewer brainwashed people can discern the difference. It's a propagandistic form of neutralizing opposition ... which is quite easy for those interests to accomplish with a phony 'oppositional' party that conveniently never fights back on behalf of The People.

[BOSSHOG]

4. Hey Mark, I think conservatives have adapted (evolved) very well

They no longer wear sheets and now call themselves teabaggers. But they still want to keep things like they were in the good old days, when women couldn't vote and blacks were lynched. You make a great observation about the fake patriots.

[existentialist]

5. Obama is a "centrist"--if "centrist" means anything

I'm disappointed in Obama on a lot of issues, but mostly he is what he ran as--a centrist. I don't like his Afghanistan policies--but they are substantially what he ran on. I don't like his economic policies--but they are substantially what he ran on.

I do like his stated environmental policies. He hasn't done much on them, and I'm unsure as to whether that's because his stated policies are largely posturing or whether he has been unable to do much because of entrenched opposition--I do know that there is entrenched opposition.

I like his stated policies on a few other points, and on a few points he has made some substantive improvements although on most not much appears to have happened.

I like that fact that we have a President whose intelligence and knowledge is impressive--mostly because I was so embarrassed when Bush would meet with a foreign leader and his command of facts and of the English language was so decidedly inferior even when English was the second or third language of the foreign leader.

The "conservative" and Republican attacks on Obama are based on the fact that people who are feeling desperate and threatened will grasp at any straw, and embellish and magnify, and what they can't find to embellish or magnify they have no qualms in making up. And they have no qualms in believing and embellishing what one of their cohorts has made up.

What recent Democrat of any prominence has NOT been attacked as being the "most liberal" Senator or member of Congress or what ever?

I know that my own Blue Dog Congresscritter has been attacked as being "too liberal for South Dakota"--which is a joke. She's right of center, but she's no wing nut so the wing nuts attack her as being too "liberal."

From this standpoint the attacks on Obama don't say nearly as much about Obama as they say about the people who are attacking him. They are small minded, threatened and desperate people.

[SoCalDem]

6. The attackers from the far right were afraid to attack a black candidate

but it's perfectly okay to attack him now that he's president.and they're making up for lost time..:grr:

he's done NOTHING yet that even remotely resembles a left/progressive turn..

The attackers are just venting because they can...

[spanone]

7. 'Obama could cure world hunger and the right would accuse him of promoting obesity'

eugene washington--wapo

[H2O Man]

8. Good point.

A lot of it.

Recommended.

[old mark]

9. Look at the massive changes in American life between say the 1870's

and 1910. I am saying that similar-maybe even more profound-changes are taking place right now, and the Democrats seem to be the party that is at least aware of them - the GOP wants to hide its head under a blanket and yell at the Dems for actually trying- however effectively-to face and prepare the country for the future.

The GOPers seem to want to go back to those sheets and burning crosses as a better time.....They should change their motto to Ignorance at All Cost!
Thanks for the rec-didn't expect one.
mark

[Romulox]

10. "left agenda"?? And it's silly to pathogenize political opposition...

Rightwinger oppose Obama (who is about $.05 to their left) because they desire power.

Where is this "change" you speak of, at any rate? The big stuff--blank checks for war and Wall Street, e.g., have been 100% bi-partisan.