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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:09 AM
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3 G.I.s Killed in Pakistan. Now Can We Start Treating This Like a Real War?
3 G.I.s Killed in Pakistan. Now Can We Start Treating This Like a Real War? (Updated Once More)

Last year, President Obama and his administration ruled out sending U.S. ground forces into Pakistan. Instead, the White House said, America’s clandestine operations there would be waged solely by remote-control — with Predator and Reaper drones. “There is a red line,” said special envoy Richard Holbrooke. “And the red line is unambiguous and stated publicly by the Pakistani government over and over again: No foreign troops on our soil.”

Yet today, three U.S. soldiers were killed and two more were wounded by an improvised bomb in Pakistan. The area was known “as a Taliban stronghold,” the New York Times notes. But the “Pakistani military had declared cleared of the militants.”

It’s another sign that America’s once-small, once-secret war in Pakistan is growing bigger, more conventional, and busting out into the open. The U.S. Air Force now conducts flights over Pakistani soil. U.S. security contractors operate in the country. U.S. strikes are growing larger, more frequent, and more deadly; the latest attack reportedly involved 17 missiles and killed as many as 29 people. Billions of dollars in U.S. aid goes to Islamabad. And now, U.S. forces are dying in Pakistan.

Which begs the question: When are we going to start treating this conflict in Pakistan as a real war — with real oversight and real disclosure about what the hell our people are really doing there? Maybe at one point, this conflict could’ve been swept under the rug as some classified CIA op. But that was billions of dollars and hundreds of Pakistani and American lives ago.

Read more: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/02/3-gis-killed-in-pakistan-when-do-we-start-treating-this-like-a-real-war/

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Pakistan Blast Kills U.S. Troops, Children, Say Local Officials

HAHI KOTO, Pakistan — A roadside bomb killed three U.S. soldiers and partly destroyed a girls' school in northwest Pakistan on Wednesday in an attack that drew attention to a little-publicized American military training mission in the al-Qaida and Taliban heartland.

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The blast also killed three schoolgirls and a Pakistani soldier who was traveling with the Americans. Two more U.S. soldiers were wounded, along with more than 100 other people, mostly students at the school, officials said.

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The explosion flattened much of the school, leaving books, bags and pens strewn in the rubble.

"It was a horrible situation," said Mohammad Siddiq, a 40-year-old guard at the school. "Many girls were wounded, crying for help and were trapped in the debris."

Siddiq said the death toll would have been much worse if the blast had occurred only minutes later because most of the girls were still playing in the yard and had not yet returned to classrooms, some of which collapsed.

"What was the fault of these innocent students?" said Mohammed Dawood, a resident who helped police dig the injured from the debris.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/03/pakistan-blast-kills-us-troops_n_447191.html
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:13 AM
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1. Tekusi posted about this yesterday and it sank like a stone.
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 11:15 AM by Hell Hath No Fury
That says is all about the state of DU these days. :( If GWB had been waging war in a third country this place would have been on fire. Guess it's all good if a "D" does it.

On edit: Yes, we can start calling this a new war. Look for such stories out of Yemen in the next few months. We are playing international whack-a-mole and it will be our undoing.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:14 AM
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2. Opps, didn't see the other thread and I totally agree with you.
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 11:15 AM by earth mom
Thanks for letting me know. :hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:18 AM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:30 AM
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 12:11 PM
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18. they need a reality check
big time. a draft would do it.
in the meantime, they seem to not give a SHIT about the murder of children, or the deaths of our soldiers.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 12:30 PM
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19. Eh hem....
Notice my post has gone missing? That's happening a lot here these days.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 12:32 PM
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20. sigh.
god, i wish we had a free press that woke people up to the insanity of these occupations.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:45 PM
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23. Please post it again, I'd like to hear what you have to say. Not the naysayers. nt
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:29 AM
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12. unfortunately true. out of sight, out of mind.
and hypocritical as hell.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:15 AM
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3. nope.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:18 AM
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5. Dude, you are way smarter than that.
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 11:21 AM by Hell Hath No Fury
I'm just saying. You are old enough to remember Cambodia, right?
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:19 AM
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6. If Bush was Pres, we'd be calling for his impeachment. Or war crimes tribunal.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:25 AM
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7. Ah, yes...
the good ol' days of DU -- when we actually stood for something and worked hard to stop the US military machine.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:28 AM
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10. That is indeed a big part of it
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:27 AM
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9. Ain't that the truth! nt
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Eyerish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:27 AM
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8. K&R
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 11:31 AM by Eyerish
Now Pakistan...next Yemen. Gotta keep the war machine well oiled...
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:29 AM
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11. it is real to the parents of those kids
and will the news media cover anything? no. the corporate masters say NO, they are making too much money off of this goddamned occupation.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:35 AM
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14. k
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:41 AM
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15. No. We don't go to war with nuclear powers.
We do other things.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 11:42 AM
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16. who would unrec the deaths of children and soldiers
talk about denial!!!
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 12:06 PM
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17. I blame the US Press
for not reporting more about this. IF it wasn't for watcvhing BBC America's newscast I might have misswd this.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:10 PM
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22. Sad but true. We seem to like hiding our heads in the sand on this issue.
:(
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:04 PM
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21. Shhhhh!....You didn't get the MEMO?
First rule of Secret Wars:
You don't talk about Secret Wars!
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SEE: LBJ & Cambodia
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:46 PM
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24. K&R
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 05:13 PM
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25. Wars of occupation are unwinnable. That fact will never change. FUCK war.
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 05:13 PM by Union Yes
And FUCK all who perpetuate war.

Peace
UY

edit: rec
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