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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:25 PM
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Now they want to bring back 'literacy tests"? WTF?
Tom Tancredo talks openly about bringing back a part of the Old-South Jim Crow system. Wow.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/tea-party-speaker-tom-tancredo-rips-john-mccain-obama/story?id=9751718

The opening-night speaker at first ever National Tea Party Convention ripped into President Obama, Sen. John McCain and "the cult of multiculturalism," asserting that Obama was elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country."

The speaker, former Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., told about 600 delegates in a Nashville, Tenn., ballroom that in the 2008 election, America "put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House ... Barack Hussein Obama."

Tancredo did not stop at the Democratic president -- ripping McCain, R-Ariz., the 2008 Republican presidential nominee, for shaping up to be a repeat of "Bush 1 and Bush 2."
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:26 PM
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1. Note to Tancredo..it's not the 20s anymore
What an asshole.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 11:10 PM
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15. And just what are you all talking about huh
CNN says he gave a fantastic speech. I know better cause I read what he said. But can you people really truly believe how low down and dirty CNN is getting. Do they think they can out trash Fox..I guess.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:28 PM
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2. And he's being defended ......
because, you know, he's not against black people, he's against immigrants, and it's a literacy test.

No, it's not a defence, and yes, I'm seriously fed up with the whole deal.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 11:02 PM
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14. I've always have said there is a Prejudice Element
to these folks. Same as the Fundies
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 03:27 AM
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28. With a name like Tancredo, some of HIS family members
may have "arrived" here, not speaking the language and possibly, sans papers too..

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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:28 PM
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3. They are EVIL not just jokes.
I hope people realize this ASAP.

The correct course of action however is probably impossible now however the Bolsheviks had one way of dealing with then.

I for one don't discount all options.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:30 PM
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4. Giving teabaggers a spelling test before voting?
Did Tancredo actually think about what he said?

Clearly he did not read their signs before going on a racist tirade.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:30 PM
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5. Literacy tests for right-wingers?
The one who typed, "Good riddens" when Ted Kennedy died?
The one who typed, "assnine" instead of "asinine?"
The one who typed, "We are screwn?"
The one who made a sign claiming Obama is a "muslin?"
The "moran" guy?
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:14 AM
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31. The civics test would be even more hilarious.
I bet well in excess of 80% of them couldn't name a single amendment to the constitution beyond the first and second. And they don't actually understand how either applies to anything.
After all, these are the same people that think anyone disagreeing with them is violating their freedom of speech.
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:30 PM
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6. You do realize...
How many Republicans would lose the right to vote? LOL
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:40 PM
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7. Tom thats why they have pictures on the ballots...Did you pay your poll tax?
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:41 PM
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8. They know, cuz I been yelling it, that demographics will kill them,
They have alienated all but white males. So, they spout ID to vote. They spout poll tax. They spout literacy tests. They will whine and complain, cuz we have a whole four years, to gain more youth. We have even more numbers. They obviously took my yelling seriously, and are scared shitless. Fuck those regressive haters.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:43 PM
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9. Hey, it could work in our favor. Think about it. Just how many Freepers
and Repukes do you seriously think could pass a civics and literacy test? It would be a very tiny percentage.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:55 PM
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12. It would be the 10% who own 90% of the wealth of America and have the
money to be able to propagandize their mostly semi-illiterate base.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 11:53 PM
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18. there are teachers in my son's high school who would FAIL a civics test
I'm quite serious about that -- TEACHERS.....
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:43 PM
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10. That 's one way for GOP congressmen to lose their "base".


We should start pushing for it in the border states.
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 05:45 AM
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29. ROFL!
That was one of my first thoughts when I heard this yesterday. Their "base" couldn't pass the easiest grade school exit exam. Maybe........... :rofl:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:52 PM
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11. I'm all for it. Watch 90% of the Republican vote be gone.
I am joking. It's just the possibilities are so tempting for one election. After that the Repugs would catch on and start cheating as usual by skewering the test results.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 12:12 AM
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19. He wasn't saying just literacy but also civics testing
"we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country."

I'm willing to bet that many of the right-wing Republicans would fail the test.

This is probably the same test that Rehnquist used in Arizona when he manned the polls. He would challenge voters that he wanted to prevent them from voting. We could easily do the same as I imagine that both Democratic and Republicans are represented at the polls. Democrats could ask some tricky questions.

Such as... Was religion one of the reasons listed in the Declaration of Independence to seek freedom?
How many articles are there in the Constitution?
How many electoral votes does your state have?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 12:45 AM
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21. I thought that's what I said on my post. Yes, my post
was more ambiguous than yours, but I basically meant it as tongue in cheek and I did say words that indicated that I wasn't serious. However, my mother and my husband were immigrants and they had to learn about those things to become American citizens. Both of them were often disgusted with the ignorance of Americans of their own history and government. Of course, my mother with me and my husband with his daughter felt our educational system fell short of making sure that every American child learned those things. This is where we need to begin. We need to teach our children so that they know those things so that they may be responsible voters.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 10:59 PM
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13. I'm thinking literacy tests would work in our favor. n/t
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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:22 AM
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25. I agree.
Presuming that ethnic discrimination is the reason behind a literacy test to qualify voters is a narrow view. In addition to testing for literacy I believe a test to demonstrate a basic understanding of contemporary political issues should be a requirement for voting.

Why not?
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 11:44 PM
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16. Maybe that would be a good idea, we keep getting
Republican administrations.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 11:52 PM
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17. psst - Tancredo -- got a reality check for ya toots
Most of YOUR base wouldn't pass the literacy test, period. And those bi-lingual folks you detest would probably run rings around the trailer trash you call your *peeps*....
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 12:12 AM
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20. yeah, cause "Tancredo" is as American as "Smith".
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 01:18 AM
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24. Keith Olbermann said Tancredo's grandparents were all immigrants
and this is how he thinks.

Dick.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 12:48 AM
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22. Well, it would be to our advantage.
Wouldn't make it right, of course. But once again, the Tea Baggers demonstrate that they are dedicated to backing legislation against their own best interests.
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 01:08 AM
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23. You notice he's not advocating for spelling tests... ;-)
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:38 AM
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26. This is an over-simplification
but it's basically just more code for there's an n-word in the White House. They just can't stand it and it's killing them. Sooner or later one of them is going to say it out loud (one can only hope there will be a camera crew on site to record it for posterity.) Republicans and Teabaggers do not do well with "the other". Anyone not exactly like them is feared, mistrusted, hated, written off and excommunicated as "not a real American".
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:44 AM
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27. When candidates decide to run for public office(particularly at...
the state and federal level)they should be required, at the time of registering for their run, to take both a literacy and a civics test--one at least as difficult as what new citizens have to pass in order to become a citizen. NO EXCEPTIONS.

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:39 AM
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30. If he genuinely thinks that Obama is a 'socialist ideologue'...
then I doubt that he'd pass a literacy test himself!

Tancredo is disgusting anyway. Reminds me of the British Far Right, e.g. Nick Griffin and the BNP.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:17 AM
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32. I hate to break it to him
but the immigrants would probably easily surpass him on the civics test.
Which means, by his own admission, that immigrants have more right to vote than he does.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:58 AM
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33. What so "W" can't vote?
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