Defining Progressives

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Progressives believe:
In a "We" society; we're all in this together.
People are capable of self government and working together for the purpose of improving the quality of life.
Moving forward together is a good thing.

Conservatives believe:
People are basically evil
Government is a strong force that will only do harm.
Moving forward is bad, change is bad.


The concepts of civility and "PC" fit in here, too. Progressives recognize the value of inclusion and mutual effort. Conservatives believe the universe revolves around them.

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1. I'm a liberal

I am my brother's keeper. Only as much govt as needed, nothing less. moving forward together is a good thing.

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2. Echoing the forgotten concept that

we ARE the government.

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3. exactly..

If we really wanted to fix health care we should go to single payer system and have it run and staffed by pro single payer zealots.
Think of a national plan where everything is being done to provide the most efficient, highest quality medical treatment. Treatment provided for free and a net gain for our society as health and community improve. A better economy. Healthier schools. A better community, all in all.

Iiberals want to improve their community. Conservatives prefer the status quo.

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4. status quo or

population reduction

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5. which is not in our best interest (:eyes:) --- so then

Liberals look for peaceful resolutions to conflict.
Conservatives are vested in the military industrial complex..

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6. one values community and continuity

of fellow beings

the other is isolated and paranoid.

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7. I'm not of the opinion that "we" is a central component of Progressivism, and I hate 'isms'...

as a practical matter - I do believe it admirably Progressive enough to hold the freedoms & enhancements of others & all to be central, and the forward motion of them so as to constitute what is Progressive and hence: progess - and if *that* is found lacking by the standard of someone else then so be that otherwise one may as well consider every bit as likely "Progressive" to be determined at the curb of our sidewalks where it is hoped our recyclables are separated in accordance thereto Progressive ideals

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8. How does your view differ from "We're all in this together"?

:shrug:

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9. A baseline difference for me is that the notion is to be extrapolated outward as from the...

core of a stoic-dense esoteric matter effecting, hopefully, others less-near the uber-principled centrality *of* that core - or as though from the core of a jaw-breaker out/beyond its event horizon; consider it a form of proselytizing: but a Progressivism able to reach beyond itself - and while a wonderful presumption especially when it fulfills itself; it is presumed that we *are* Progressive, we here, and so requiring, at least to my mind, no re-definition that we are

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10. exactly

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11. "from the core of a jaw-breaker out/beyond its event horizon"

nice touch. got more? :popcorn:

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12. BALLS!!!

:bounce::bounce:

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13. ..