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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 01:16 AM
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*** WILD PIG ALERT*** Latest reports are early warnings were IGNORED...2005 red flag ig'd
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 01:18 AM by opihimoimoi
Since then, a problem that should have been addressed...was'nt!

I hope someone from the INTERIOR DEPT is AWARE and is addressing this HUGH PROBLEMO....its in 36 states....attacking peeps even....in their homes..packs of them....

Use them for mulch making....worm shit sell for big bucks.....pig energy into worm shit energy is profit....

or pet food for zoos and farms/game preserves

Get rid of them pigs before someone dies from PIG ATTACK

Sic Obama on this one ASAP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/searchresults.html?q=wild+pig+problem&sitesearch=&sa=Search&domains=democraticunderground.com&client=pub-7805397860504090&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A11&hl=en

link to many sites many states many warnings......
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 01:25 AM
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1. Crap, you're talking real pigs.
x( I thought this thread was about neo-con obstructionists
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 01:34 AM
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3. I was thinking it might have been about Ann Coulter.








:shrug:


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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:24 AM
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8. Good Odds she is feral
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:39 AM
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11. I was thinking it might have been the brown acid . . .
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 01:29 AM
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2. Why did I think this was about Portugal, Ireland, Italy and Greece
been spending too much time on the finance blogs.
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Po_d Mainiac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:40 AM
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44. you gotta quit driving that keyboard n/t
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:18 AM
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4. I know a solution: eat them.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:22 AM
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6. yup...corn fed for 3 months oughta fatten them up
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:28 AM
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9. Maybe someone more politically adept than I could figure out a way
to get harvested boars to people that need food. Sounds like a win/win.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:34 AM
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10. For health reasons...might not be a good idea...quarenteen and fatten/inspect
might be a way.

or

food for exotic predators in the zoos, parks etc
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:51 AM
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14. The only problem I'm aware of are the worms you can get if the meat is undercooked.
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 02:52 AM by Edweird
Meat from any source is potentially dangerous when undercooked, though.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:35 AM
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18. Trichinosis from pork....I meanht worm food...grind up piggies for worm nfood to harvest worm shit.
big bucks by raising/sellin worm shit
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:17 PM
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63. In lieu of delegating it to govt , what we do now is
Shoot hogs , gut them in the field, and deliver whole carcasses to predetermined , gleeful, knife wielding recipients that night or the next day . The biggest problem you will run into is patent laziness (But who will do it for me ?). If it isn't chopped up in a microwavable package most people don't want to mess with it . This includes a ton of people that "hunt" , but are through once the shooting is over . Witness Schumer's tax break for deer processing fees if the meat is donated . What about the expense incurred by the dozens of porters , hair stylists , publicists ,bartenders , chefs ,and rifle bearers required for a successful hunt ?

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 03:17 AM
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16. Mmm.... ham.
If one of those things gets too close to my house, it's going to be served up with biscuits and baked yams.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 03:49 AM
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17. I'm partial to barbecue. Here in Miami a 'china box' is the local method.
But, however you prepare it, enjoy :toast:


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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 11:50 AM
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49. They aren't very good eating, from what I understand
They're really tough and greasy. I guess they'd be okay in stew, but they're not like the pork in the grocery store. Of course, if I was really hungry...
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:47 PM
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66. I had wild boar at Christmas. I'd say it is good enough
to be a regular part of my diet.

I only eat meat because my wife is a meat eater.


Buffalo is also a high quality flavorful meat. Low fat too.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:20 AM
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5. oink!


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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:23 AM
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7. SWAMPY....you did it...LOL :o)
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:48 AM
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19. I think that's one of those "fascist pigs" that Leslie Whore-winkle
was talking in court about back about 1970!(State vs Stoner)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:08 AM
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26. The Facist Pub Pigs are breeding faster than they losing at the POLLs
Damn...

Some Pub Females have more than 2 breasts to handle the load...in Calif there are fasmilies with 18 kids....OMG....

and now we got pigs to worry about too...double Damn
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:41 AM
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12. Auwe! I thought you were talking about the Islands' pua'as!
But locals know what to do with those ones: hunt 'em down and kalua da buggahs. Ono'ono.

Hekate

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:49 AM
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13. Big island is also over run...these piggies are series problema
Aloha Sistah

75 degrees and balmy....

sending mountain apples and lychee
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 03:06 AM
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15. Need more luaus, den. Aloha back.
Not too bad here -- wet and in the high 50's tonight. This winter is the most rain we've had here on the Central Coast since 2004, so we're pretty happy for the wet stuff.

It's all good. No wild pigs.

Hekate

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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:52 AM
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20. Relax...As long as they haven't strted stealing elections and starting illegal wars, we're ok.
hmm
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:03 AM
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23. I jus love that animal.... :o)
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:58 AM
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21. What's the problem?
Sounds like almost free food for my pets and/or me.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:01 AM
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22. They are breeding faster than we can killum...over running woods and forests
Farmers going nuts in affected areas....36 states
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:05 AM
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24. Didn't Ol' Yeller get rabies from a wild pig?
:cry:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:07 AM
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25. Pig attacks. My friend from rural Germany said growing up there was the tale told to children
about the farmer who went out to feed the pigs and didn't come back.

Pigs can be dangerous.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:09 AM
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27. Pigs will eat people
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 10:09 AM by AllentownJake
No doubt about that. So will rats in a significant number.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:12 AM
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30. In fairness
...it should be pointed out most tales told to children in Germany are absolutely chilling in general. :D

Further reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struwwelpeter
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Mamacrat Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:09 AM
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28. Hogzilla!
One word: Hogzilla!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:13 AM
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31. 1500 lb pig...OMG....reports of 350 to 400 lb boars roaming the woods in packs like tons of rabbits
eating everything they can find is not so funnies

but we make light in order to share info bout this old but growing threat
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Mamacrat Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:31 AM
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37. Scared myself!
I used to be so scared of running into one of those when we'd visit family in a rural area of Georgia. Maybe they just told us that to keep us from running off!
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:09 AM
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29. We have javelinas here...
Three of them got a whiff of my lunch when I got out of my car one morning and distracted them from digging in the trash can they'd just knocked over. (Is that a Palinesque sentence or what?) Before I knew it they were heading toward me and I took off running for the door. They followed....but I made it okay. Really, is a pb&j worth it? I had to ask myself that.

How would you like to have these after you in the morning? (Keep in mind these are babies!)



from wikipedia:
Peccaries (also known as javelinas, by the Portuguese name javali and Spanish jabalí or pecarí) are medium-sized mammals of the family Tayassuidae. Peccaries are members of the artiodactyl suborder Suina, as are swine (Suidae) and possibly hippopotami.<1> They are found in the southwestern area of North America and throughout Central and South America. Peccaries usually measure between 90 to 130 centimetres (3.0 to 4.3 ft), and a full-grown adult usually weighs between about 20 to 40 kilograms (44 to 88 lb).

People often confuse peccaries, which are found in the Americas, with pigs which originated in Afro-Eurasia, especially since some domestic pigs brought by European settlers have escaped over the years and now run wild as razorback hogs in many parts of the United States.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:16 AM
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32. The problem involves them biggy types...feral pigs...often 350 lbs and when hungry,,,brazen
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:25 AM
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34. Heck, these little 60 pounders scared me...
But I can imagine the bigger ones and certainly wouldn't want to me chased by one. I like my bacon crispy.
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Mamacrat Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:35 AM
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40. Three Little Javelinas
I read The Three Little Javelinas to my son sometimes. My in-laws are in Arizona.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:17 AM
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33. Wild pigs as a form of child control....
years ago when my sisters and were very young and we would go to visit my grandparents and an aunt in a different part of the state, our mom would warn us about wandering too far from the house, as both houses were in relatively wooded areas.

Wild pigs would hunt us down and kill us, we were told.

I recall playing out in the yard(s) and keeping a nervous eye on the trees for the giant wild pigs that might leap out of the woods and run off with one of us kids in their slavering jaws.


Now, years later, I'm not even sure there ever were any wild pigs in that area (which was very close to Fort Devens in Mass). But it sure worked to keep us kids from wandering away...
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Mamacrat Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:34 AM
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39. Me, too!
I just posted the same thing above. I was wondering if you were one of my cousins until I saw you were in Massachusetts. I think there really were wild boars where we were, and obviously Hogzilla is a pretty scary creature.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 11:25 AM
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46. Hey, you never know...
we could indeed be cousins.

I'm finding cousins I never even knew I had, all over the country...

:)
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:36 AM
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41. Not a joke at all- a cousin and I were "treed" by a wild hog when we were kids
It was in South Carolina back in the late 50's. We were playing in the woods not far from my Aunt's house when we heard it, we went up two small pine trees right quick and ended up being there for hours until my uncle came, saw what was going on and went back for a shotgun. He had to fire at the hog after he got back to us (at a run) before it hauled ass. It was the only one I've ever seen actually, and that was 50 years ago, but it was enough for me. Needless to say, we were small, but I've got to tell you, that hog looked the size of a truck.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 11:23 AM
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45. OK, South Carolina...but Massachusetts?
And it never occurred to me, as a kid, to wonder why we would be allowed to play outside...mainly unsupervised while the adults were in the house...if there really were vicious wild pigs wandering the forests looking for naughty little kids to eat.


PS...on the size of that hog...I remember visiting a local park as a child with my parents and other family members, and we went to see the animals in the "zoo building". I can sure identify with your feelings on how huge that hog must have looked to you as a kid. The African lion I saw looked like it was ten feet tall from where I stood. Damn...I felt like a walking pork chop looking at it looking at me...



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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:29 AM
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35. Feral pigs ARE a menace
To the environment especially.

I hit one with my car once. His tusk punctured my tire (and probably killed himself but I didn't see where the pig went, just smelled what he left behind, which is distinctive)

But they have been changing habitats ever since they were introduced and they are spreading. It is probably impossible to get rid of them but hunting of wild pigs should be allowed at all times, in all seasons. They are vermin basically.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 11:47 AM
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48. They're a HUGE problem around here.
I spent all of last summer working in a large floodplain swamp. They tore up just about every bit of high ground for miles. And, as the swamp dried down, they decimated the rest of it. I shudder to think of how many of the new tree seedlings were dug up, or how many tubers of rare plants were eaten by these things. I'm all for year-round hunting of them.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 12:16 PM
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50. I think its time for the Dept of the Interior to act on the prob...someone call Obama
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:30 AM
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36. We actually had one of California's extremely rare open hunting seasons on pigs several years ago
I think it's time to consider it again.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:33 AM
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38. And I thought this was a joke
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:38 AM
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43. I had no idea!
Pigs! There was a black bear in this area but we haven't wild pigs.....yet!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 11:28 AM
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47. Bwahahahahahahaha ... that's a hoot!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:37 AM
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42. Not for the animal lover.
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 10:40 AM by Enthusiast
Or anyone that despises cruelty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiHmYsyVniE
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:50 AM
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62. Watch for the cute piggy @4:22 seconds
What big teeth he has !
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:39 PM
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65. Galapagos response. Helicopters and judas goats.
Basically if you make it open season they will be gone. If you pay per head they will go faster. And if you allow the use of weapons like the 300 whisper and ITT flir/thermal optics which allows delivery a rifle round with minimal sound in complete darkness, the problem is gone.



galapagos link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZrFIcWzSEo
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 12:33 PM
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51. Wild boar is what I served for thanksgiving
It was delish.

It's now something I serve for more entertaining venues.

You can also get wild boar pancetta and prosciutto.

Broken arrow ranch and d'artagnon are good
places to order on line.

So I'm doing my part -- I'm eating them.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 12:51 PM
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52. Wild boar is great! Tastes as good or better than store bought ham. (n/t)
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Mamacrat Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:06 PM
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54. How do you cook it?
I tasted Tuscan Boar with pasta (Cinghiale, I think it's called) at a restaurant with a friend, and it was tasty. How do you cook it? I couldn't place the seasoning, but it was familiar.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 03:03 PM
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55. Well I did bone in leg.
Marinated over night in Madeira and herbs.

Roasted slow and low until was falling off the bone.
I did cover it with bacon at first -- wild pig
is very lean.

I made a Madeira, jus and wild mushroom sauce for
the table.

Delish!

Broken arrow and d'artagnon have wonderful recipes
on their websites.

I am purposely adding more wild game to my diet.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 01:38 PM
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53. Turn this frown upside down-- LUAU for everyone, big time, Brah!
Dig some pits, cook those suckers up!



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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:01 PM
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57. Kalua Pig Is Onolicious,,,,get some wood/stones and fire them babies up
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 04:13 PM
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56. Pigs is food in these here parts!
Rural Central Arkansas

Shooting Feral Hogs

On private land,
feral hogs may be killed or trapped year-round, day or night, by a landowner or anyone with the landowner’s permission (except anyone who has had his or her hunting license revoked). All general regulations for hunting safety should be observed.


Hogs on Wildlife Management Areas
The AGFC encourages hunters to shoot all feral hogs they see on WMAs. Hunters may kill feral hogs on WMAs during daylight hours during any open hunting season as long as they are using a weapon legal for that season. Only permit holders may hunt feral hogs during special permit hunts. Feral hogs killed on WMAs can be taken for processing or left where they were shot. Hunters may not use dogs, bait or traps to hunt feral hogs on WMAs and may not hunt at night.

http://www.agfc.com/hunting/feral_hogs.aspx


When we first moved here (The Woods), we were more than willing to share our bounty with all god's creatures.
Live and Let Live.

THAT didn't last long.
I take no joy in shooting varmints (coyote, possum, raccoon, skunk), but when they come after our stock, pets, or veggie gardens, nothing else is effective.
No wild pigs...yet,
but some of our neighbors have had some problems with them.....bears too.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:03 PM
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58. In a Maryland suburb
. . . a pair of wild pigs blocked my path for a few seconds. I couldn't believe my eyes until I read where they're native to Md. They didn't look to have any fear at all.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:30 PM
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59. Is this about Sarah Palin?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:26 PM
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61. Not really....its a real prob that was made known in 2005... sho nuff, them Bushies did shit
Now its in 36 states and growing...they breed 3x a year...babies become mothers in about 5 to 6 months.

Numbers indicate a real prob....we can't eat them fas enough. Hordes of them beginning to destreoy whole areas...Farmers beginning to see crops damaged...

awue....pilikea o ka'aina
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:32 PM
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60. Here in Kona we have them all over
I've encountered them on walks, they just walk away from me. I don't see the big deal.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:23 PM
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64. They destroy sea turtle nests for one.
they are non native to many places, like the SC coast. For that reason I shoot them on sight when possible on coastal fishing or photography trips.
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