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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:23 PM
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Ollie North On What Happens If Gays Are Allowed To Serve Openly: ‘NAMBLA Members’ Are Next

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Last night, Oliver North, the retired U.S. Marine Corps officer-turned-Fox News contributor, appeared on Hannity’s America to condemn the administration’s decision to overturn “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” North characterized Obama’s support for the repeal as a “stunning assault on the all-volunteer military, the very best in the world” and suggested that allowing gay and lesbian soldiers to serve openly was the tantamount to letting pedophiles into the military:

Stunning assault on the all-volunteer military, the very best in the world. Barack Obama now intents to treat them like lab rats in a radical social experiment, and it can be very, very detrimental. … In other words, this isn’t about rights. This isn’t about fairness. It’s all about national security. And apparently, Mr. Obama has forgotten it. … Now, here’s what’s next. NAMBLA members, same-sex marriages. Are chaplains in the U.S. military going to be required to perform those kinds of rituals? Do they get government housing?


The irony of a convicted felon who lied about diverting proceeds from arms sales to a rebel group in Nicaragua supporting a policy that forces gay and lesbian servicemen to lie about their sexual orientation was lost on both Hannity and North. The pair also failed to mention that Joint Chief of Staff Chairman Mike Mullen personally supports the policy’s repeal, which would have forced North to condemn him for treating the troops “like lab rats in a radical social experiment.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/05/ollie-north-dadt/
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:25 PM
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1. I thought Ollie already served in the Military
So much for keeping NAMBLA out.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:26 PM
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2. And if we give the Contras illegal weapons, next we'll invade whole countries on false pretenses!
Er.


Oops.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 05:25 AM
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37. If Straights Are Allowed To Serve Openly: Call Chris Hansen
:grr:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:26 PM
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3. Is this worthless fuck still bobbing around out there?
How I despise that traitor.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:26 PM
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4. Since he lies about everything, I have to presume he actually SUPPORTS the DADT repeal.

:P
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:27 PM
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5. So Ollie North is against putting child molesters in secure camps full of armed men?
Really?


Damn, I should write headlines for The Nation :rofl:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:27 PM
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6. paging Jon Stewart n/t
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:28 PM
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7. Oh yes, the NAMBLA boogeyman.
Right on cue. What is it with these assholes and their "NAMBLA" fascination? It's creeping me out a little.
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:14 PM
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14. Wouldn't surprise me.
Anybody who is obviously homophobic like this, imo, is projecting some form of sexual insecurity.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:30 PM
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8. If ollie is against it then it must be good.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:30 PM
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9. Gays should be banned, but traitors & felons are OK?
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:30 PM
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10. Is he trying to out-crazy Glenn Beck? n/t
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:41 PM
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11. now, now......Ollie can't help himself.
He's a good little reaganite, the kind of guy who believes in.......well, something or another.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:42 PM
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12. North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes?
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:07 PM
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13. Blatent homophobic idiocy.
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 07:08 PM by chrisa
And the fact that people (homophobes) can spew this venom on-air without being called out on it is even worse.

And I'm also pretty sure, correctly if I am wrong, that NAMBLA members can serve in the military. Therefore, Olliver North is just another idiot.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:14 PM
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15. I don't know about NAMBLA......
but skinheads, fundamentalist Christians, and those with criminal records can serve........
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:15 PM
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16. Ah, yes. The slippery slope

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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:17 PM
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17. Brilliant
nice find - thank you for sharing it here :)
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:19 PM
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20. Amazing, isn't it?
Yet, people like Ollie North think that they're scoring legitimate points with their dumb, homophobic logically fallacies. Only the knuckle-dragging Hannity-fans would believe it.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:23 PM
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23. Comparing normal sexual behaviour among consenting adults with pedophilia is
disgraceful, evil, and wrong. Hell, I really don't have the words to express how fucked up that is. No matter who is doing it. :grr:
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:36 PM
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25. Hate for hate's sake
They're bitter, irrelevant, frustrated losers who are mad that people are getting more Civil Rights. They would love for everybody but them to be oppressed, because it makes people like Ollie North feel special.

To compare an innocent group of people to a hate organization of child molesters leads me to believe that Ollie North is another clueless idiot who talks more than he should, with nobody wanting to listen to him in the first place. The modern day village idiot, so to speak.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 11:50 PM
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30. LOL, that's cute, I'm stealing it!
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:18 PM
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18. No wonder he only made it to Lt. Colonel
And even in war-time USMC.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:19 PM
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19. would someone puh-lease just set him loose in Nicaragua?
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:19 PM
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21. Would they let a lying, shithead felon serve? Oh, that's right, they already did.
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 07:27 PM by 11 Bravo
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:20 PM
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22. the traitor speaks again...his opinion is moot to moi
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:28 PM
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24. Don't worry, Ollie. Fawn Hall shredded your lifetime membership card
You suck, Ollie.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 08:00 PM
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26. Is there really such an organization as NAMBLA?
I'm serious. I don't think the damn thing exists as anything other than a convenient prop for the Right to use when they need a bogeyman. EVERY gay rights organization is against them. All straight people are against them. They have no support whatsoever and their entire existence is predicated upon the notion that committing one of the most heinous crimes out there--boy-bumping--should be seen as a normal thing.

Now...on the other hand...if a handful of exceptionally homophobic Republicans were to get together and think, "what can we possibly do to hurt the gay cause?" they might invent a "group" whose stated purpose is the promotion of pederasty, and then do as much as they possibly could to advertise its existence. Now, when the Right needs to do something to villainize the gay rights movement, they simply have to mouth the magic word NAMBLA. "OMG all these gay people just want to GRAB YOUR SON OFF THE STREET IN BROAD DAYLIGHT AND RAPE HIM!"
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 08:17 PM
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27. Too bad this coward got off on a technicality and didn't get to spend
time in prison playing "Drop the Soap". Maybe he would have a different perspective.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:26 PM
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28. He should ask his fellow GOP'ers, seems they like NAMBLA.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:58 PM
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29. Ollie who? Oh yeah..that convicted gunrunning traitor.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 11:57 PM
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31. STFU you treasonous fuckwit!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:08 AM
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32. Because children always sign up to play war in the military
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 04:01 AM
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33. This is a good example of neo-con logic.
Not only is comparing homosexuals to child molesters factually incorrect and morally reprehensible, but it tells you exactly what their opinion of consent is.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 05:04 AM
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35. Yep. I worry about right-wingers molesting my child.
I mean, look at it this way: if they cannot rationally comprehend the difference between someone giving consent and someone who is incapable of giving consent (children, animals, etc.), how the hell can any of them be trusted to HONOR the idea of consent? They have no functional moral compass whatsoever. They lack the normal human inner conscience that tells the rest of us, "This is wrong and here's why." I think that conscience and empathy are deeply connected, which is probably why they have no compassion for poor people or other oppressed people either--they lack both.

Frankly? I truly believe that the right-wing mindset is a severe mental illness in and of itself, and I say that in all seriousness.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 04:55 AM
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34. Pedophiles who feel sexual attraction to opposite-sex children can serve.
So long as they've never been caught and have never admitted it in a way that the military can find out about it, anyway. So can pedophiles who feel attraction toward same-sex children, or (more typically) both. It's all a matter of whether or not they've been busted yet. We probably already have NAMBLA members in the military. Unlike being gay, though, being a pedophile really IS a severe mental illness. These are people who, by definition, want sex with someone who cannot consent. They are rapists. Consenting gay adults are not rapists. They are doing nothing illegal. Comparing the two is idiotic, especially when you consider that most pedophiles are adult men who claim to be otherwise heterosexual. Let's ban all heterosexuals from the military! You know--just in case.

:eyes:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 05:23 AM
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36. Hey Ollie, you need more teflon for you slope?
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