Sarah is changing the details of her "wild ride" story.

[Blue_In_AK]

I have been on the fence regarding Trig's parentage, but BreePalin has an interesting post up today pointing out that Sarah changed the details of the story at the rally with Rick Perry in Texas. I posted this in the thread about the "home scholers," but it was suggested that I start an OP, so here it is. Don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger.

http://breepalin.blogspot.com/2010/02/mrs-palins-wild-ride-redux.html

Mrs. Palin's Wild Ride Redux

<snip>

As Andrew Sullivan points out, this email seems to corroborate what Mrs. Palin wrote in Going Rogue about the Wild Ride back to Wasilla in labor to birth this five-weeks early baby with Down Syndrome:

It was a calm, relatively restful flight home.

But on Sunday, Mrs. Palin told yet another version of the Wild Ride. At Governor Perry's campaign rally she recalled how she had to cut short her appearance at the RGA conference in Dallas on April 17, 2008. Here she states how she actually had to stop speaking in the midst of talking and hand her microphone over to Governor Perry and literally run out the door because her labor was becoming so pressing:

<video>


How then is she calmly relaxing with a book without any signs of distress - or leaking fluids - quite a few hours later in the lounge in Seattle?

What would be more than twelve hours after awakening in Dallas to leaking amniotic fluid and "a strange sensation low in my belly" that led her to pleading with God as she recounted in Going Rogue, page 193:

Please don't let anything happen to this baby. . . . I'm so in love with this child, please God, protect him!


And there is another discrepancy in the version from the Perry rally where she states that she had Trig that evening. No, her original story is that she had Trig via induction the next morning about six-thirty am.

Who gets their baby's birth date wrong? I gave birth to one of my babies about six-thirty am. I've never said that I had him the previous evening. I went into the hospital on one day, and I gave birth to him the next morning. I never get confused about that.

Another interesting tidbit to remember is that we have recently learned from Gryphen that Sarah and Todd forsake their usual security escort to and from Dallas and from the airport in Anchorage back to Wasilla.

<snip>

What does it MEAN??

[T Wolf]

1. Once the lies start, it is hard to keep it all straight. But NOTHING will come of this because

they are allowed to lie.

Simple as that.

[Winterblues]

24. Not just allowed but encourages to do so.

And they are damn good at it..

[spanone]

2. this one's easy...she's a fucking liar

[AndyA]

3. It means Sarah Palin is a LIAR. The story changes to suit the current audience.

Just like her "thanks, but no thanks" story that she kept telling during the campaign. It had been debunked over and over again by the media, but she kept telling it anyway.

She's a liar.

She's a psychopath.

[livetohike]

5. +1

[eleny]

4. Maybe she should have written is birthdate on her palm

:shrug:

[crispini]

6. .

:spray:

YOU SO BAD! :spank:

[NanceGreggs]

7. ...

You betcha!!!

:toast:

[Blue_In_AK]

8. Oh, that's good.

You get a gold star today. :rofl:

[myrna minx]

23. LOL.

:rofl:

[SallyMander]

59. HAHAHAHHAA

eleny FTW! :rofl:

[rocktivity]

9. Let's just say that I have a VERY reasonable doubt

that someone knowing they were carrying a child with Down's Syndrome would travel for twelve hours rather than seek immediate medical help after displaying symptoms of premature labor! If Trig really IS hers, what was she thinking--and should we want that kind of thinking in a political leader?

x(
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[spandexfantastic]

10. Spandexfantastic has the lowdown on Sarah Palin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38RK03npwwU

[nenagh]

11. Odd isn't it??

Her 5th baby is supposed to arrive much more quickly than the others...

At first I thought she made up the contractions story so as to appear more like Superwoman.. not realizing that one should not fly and be that preggers.. after all she was a resident of Wasilla..

[HipChick]

12. What mother giving birth would not remember the actual details? She keeps changing the story

because she's a liar!

[progressoid]

15. Actually, I can believe that.

She's not all that bright {duh} and after 4 or 5 kids, all the dates probably blur together for her.

[dmr]

32. No, one thing about moms, the details never get blurred n/t

[progressoid]

37. Actually...

my wife and I both goofed on our second daughters birth date. We didn't realize we had been celebrating on the wrong date until we registered her for school. The year she was born was quite tumultuous and details were blurry.

[CTyankee]

84. I completely missed my daughter's birthday last October. My excuse is

that I was on a trip to Portugal and literally didn't know what day it was when I got back. When you are travelling around in a foreign country you don'thave your calendar or your computer in front of you and the days get mixed up. I called her when I got back and I "thought" it was the 21st and she said to me "It was yesterday, dude!" I was so embarrased.

[karynnj]

34. I don't think so

My mom had 9 and when many of us had kids, our own births came up in the conversation. She remembered each. I clearly remember all three of my kids being born - all distinctly.

[progressoid]

41. ...

see post below or above. :)

[Z_I_Peevey]

36. Baloney.

I'm a mother of five, and I assure you I can remember all the details of each birth. Dates, times, what I was doing when the labor began, how long each labor took, etc.

And I assure you no woman in her right mind would board an airplane while in labor with her fifth child.

But then, there is little about Miz Thang's behavior with regard to Trig that makes sense.

[progressoid]

40. Boarding the plane while in labor is definitely crazy.

I can't dispute that.

But as I posted above both my wife and I both goofed on our second daughters birth date for 4 years. We didn't realize we had been celebrating on the wrong date until we registered her for school. The year she was born was quite tumultuous (let's just say we went to a lot of funerals) and details were blurry that year.

I'm not trying to defend Gov quitter, it's just that I know from experience that dates and details can be forgotten or mistaken. Even by a mother.

[newtothegame]

13. Gotta love the birthers. n/t

[Blue_In_AK]

14. Hey, what's good for the gander is good for the goose.

And such a silly goose she is.

[PinkoDonkey]

16. There is also a strange thing regarding Trig's insurance.

Andrew Sullivan has a post about it and reproduces the emails in question:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/02/todd-palin-and-trig-palins-birth-certificate-emails-released.html

What does it all mean?

I think this is more about the MSM's ability to report on Teh Crazy One than anything else. We don't need any further evidence that Palin is a liar, lacks substance, is a crypto-fascist wingnut who (if given control over a few thousand nuclear weapons) could end all life on earth as we know it, etc....

[Cirque du So-What]

17. Quoting Abraham Lincoln

'No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.'

Or woman, for that matter, and I certainly don't believe Iquitarod has the mental acuity to keep all her shaggy-dog stories straight.

[RandySF]

18. If you didn't want anything bad to happen to the baby...

WHY DIDN'T YOU GO STRAIGHT TO THE FUCKING HOSPITAL????

[cags]

25. keep in mind she had TWO miscarriages in her past... Who does that? Not a mother

[HipChick]

27. Were they really miscarriages?...

Who really white-outs a medical procedure?

[tabasco]

35. Belated welcome to DU.

I like your style.

I'll be keepin' an eye on you.

[rocktivity]

56. Especially when she fucking KNEW

the baby had Down's Syndrome--AND WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE BORN FOR ANOTHER MONTH?

:shrug:
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[blogslut]

19. Mrs. Lady Ex-Governor Person is one messed up individual

I am remiss to offer a theory as to why she acted so callously in the last hours of her last pregnancy. My theorized motive would indicate the lady in question was a clinical sociopath.

[mzteris]

42. maybe she was trying

to "lose the baby"?

Gah - I hate to even think such a thing - but her behaviour is VERY VERY bizarre and one searches for explanations for it. I know she's ignorant and self-centered and weird and self-serving . . . so why would she behave in such a way as to endanger the life of the baby? Why, indeed? Especially when you remember she carried Trig as little as possible and like a sack of potatoes when she did. Maybe she wasn't feeling "so blessed" with his disabilities?

I hope to - whoever - that isn't true. Really. That would be truly sociopathic, wouldn't it?

[Missy Vixen]

75. This is exactly what I was thinking as well

Was she going to the lowest-intervention hospital she could find in the United States to have the baby and "let nature take its course"?

It's nice to know that she subjected two different planeloads of people to the fun and games that is a possible emergency landing as well.

:eyes:

And I call bullshit on the two previous "miscarriages".

[HipChick]

20. The fact that....

she does NOT believe in evolution, which means she is delusional and lacks a basic understanding of how the world works, which makes her unfit for ANY public office.

But if that alone isn't enough to make her unfit for command of anything, the Wilde ride story that keeps morphing is irresponsibility at its best..

The fact that we're even having these conversations about her running for president is absurd, bordering on insane...

[tallahasseedem]

21. The more she talks...

the more she will trip herself up and wont be able to keep her lies straight. I can't wait!

[mitchum]

22. Stupid people like Palin are ill-equipped for lying (sometimes practice does not make perfect)

[SoCalDem]

26. Induction???? after 12 hrs of leaking & so-called labor?

for a preemie FIFTH CHILD???


...it's a blatant lie..

Bristol had that baby in Feb, (probably under an assumed name..delivered by the gal-pal doctor...) anyone who "assisted" would have been sworn to secrecy.. or she may have even delivered at home and the down syndrome discovered then..

Sarah's "instant" 7 month pregnancy could only "work" if she could calculate the baby's size... she faked the whole thing... probably to "save" Bristol's reputation and to scam the state of Alaska into paying for "her" baby..not the baby of her unwed teenager.

If we had to know the location of every mole on McLame's body & all his ailments, surely we should have seen the sonogram of Sarah's baby, and the list of her prenatal visits.. we only got a cursory "note" from the gal-pal doctor..and of course we never saw a birth certificate..

She's a liar.. that's why she has a hard time remembering the other lies she's told..

and the thing that no one ever mentions is this.. what a TERRIBLE husband Todd must be.. think about it.. his wife is having a difficult pregnancy with a handicapped baby, and they are thousands of miles from home.. she says she's leaking amniotic fluid, and it's the 5th baby..

so he sends her off to her luncheon meeting/speech, and then later they borad a plane..and then bypass several great hospitals, only to drive for hours to go to a little podunk hospital.....stinks to high heavens..

a "good" husband would have taken her to the nearest hospital, and had her admitted..and then would have called the meeting group and told them she would not be there..

of course he couldn't do that because the pillow was a dead giveaway, and you don't need to induce a pillow.. you just pull it out of your pants:)ta-dah!!!

We'll call the baby pillow "Throw"

[Avalux]

39. LOL!

I laughed so hard at the induction story and the conflicting labor pains/leaking story - any woman who has ever had a baby would know she's lying. AND - a good mother with a high risk pregnancy would NEVER have left home and flow to Texas for a fucking fundraiser.

Her supporters won't blink an eye though. They are infatuated and ignore the ugly truth.

[rocktivity]

57. I've never had a problem with her making the trip

but only because she claims she felt fine and wasn't expecting Trig for another month.

:eyes:
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[Ilsa]

66. The state of Alaska would have placed Bristol's Downs Baby under

their coverage, I'm sure, whether she was married or not. The family, including Sarah, had medical insurance, and some states bill insurance for the special therapies, some don't. My oldest received care under Early Childhood Intervention before his autism was diagnosed. Our insurance was a moot point then, but Texas now bills insurance.

Still, the circumstances of Trig's birth are very fishy, andI can't deny the possibility that the baby is Bristol's.

[polpilot]

28. Where's the birth certificate. I say she ain't had him. He's Texan.

[Contrary1]

29. This comment got my attention:

litbritlitbrit:

"Mrs. Palin will *not* be running in 2012. I would bet a significant sum on this fact.

She had--and still has--a very small window between the time she resigned as governor and the time when the proverbial manure hits the rotor blades. And you can be certain she'll use that time to make as much money as humanly possible, darting from one poorly-prepared "speech" to the next, from one whiplash-inducing public appearance or book-signing to another, all the while charging maximum dollar. FOX will use her as long as she draws eyeballs to their network. Mrs. Palin and her husband (and probably some staff) have perpetrated so many enormous acts of outright fraud and abuse of power, to which you can add an almost infinite number of petty lies, tax evasions, expense-padding, etc., it is mathematically impossible for her to keep going this way much longer, much less to even *consider* a run for the White House and all the scrutiny--not to mention the requirements for actual debate performance as opposed to game-playing, distraction, question-sidestepping, and winking--that such a move would entail.

Again, there will be no campaign in 2012, only the implied promise of one for as long as it takes to maximize the donations and adoration of those poor fool sheep, another one shorn every minute."

:thumbsup:

[EmeraldCityGrl]

30. If she runs for POTUS, the truth will come out.

For this reason I hope the Left doesn't alienate Levi Johnston.
He knows more than he's telling.

[mod mom]

67. YOu have a lot of faith. Where was the questioning of Todd's developer friends (you know

the ones that got the Wasilla Sports complex contract) building the Palin home? Don't remember the MSM covering this during her run for VP.

-snip

Todd Palin told Fox News that he built the two-story, 3,450-square-foot, four-bedroom, four-bath, wood house himself, with the help of contractors he described as "buddies." As mayor, Sarah Palin blocked an effort to require the filing of building permits in the wide-open city, and there is no public record of who the "buddies" were. The house was built very near the complex, on a site whose city purchase led to years of unsuccessful litigation and, now, $1.3 million in additional costs, with a law firm that's also donated to Palin collecting costly fees from the city.

-snip

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-08/news/the-book-of-sarah/2

[malaise]

31. She's a pathological LIAR

MOving along. :hi:

[stanwyck]

53. Agree.

Self centered, lazy, and always ready to fabricate a story. I say lazy because I saw her interview with Chris Wallace on Fox. She still doesn't want to take the time to learn issues beyond a snappy talking point. She just is not interested. She wants to be a celebrity - not an analyst. (or a governor). She, like Dubya, really isn't very interested in being a working politician. She's just interested in the perks.

[Cass]

33. The first signal that lies are being told is a changing story.

She is not being truthful about this.

And her new comments make this even worse. If she got on a plane after having to run off stage because her labor had become "so pressing" then she deliberately put that baby at risk.

Does she not realize that she is not the only one who has ever been pregnant and that there's plenty of people who know her story stinks to the heavens. No doctor in the world would permit a woman in her condition to go flying across the country like this on a commercial flight with no access to medical assistance.

[Gold Metal Flake]

38. "and literally run out the door because her labor was becoming so pressing"

That's all I need.

Trig is her FIRST grandchild.

[mzteris]

43. although it is

extremely unusual for a young mother to have Downs Syndrome child.

My thoughts are MUCH worse for what sara & todd were trying to do.

[dmr]

44. Yea, I've had the same thoughts. Either that attempt or Trig is her grandkid

I have zero respect for this woman.

[hedgehog]

83. While it is unusual for a young mother to have a Down syndrome

child, most Down syndrome babies are born to young mothers because they're the ones having the most kids.

Still, against popular belief, most children with Down’s syndrome are born to young mothers: 51 % to mothers under 30, 72 % to women under 35.

http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/322.html

[badgerpup]

45. I'm still wondering about...

...the 'commercial airlines allowing a woman IN ACTIVE LABOR on the plane' aspect of it.
:wtf:

They really don't like "Airport" scenarios (anybody remember that movie?).
What is more likely today (but they don't like this either), having to turn the plane around/divert to the nearest airport so that the kid can be properly launched (if Mom was able to hold out that long) and they can BOTH receive post-natal care.

IIRC, if you're into your 3rd trimester you need a note from your doc swearing in blood that the chances of you suddenly going into labor are about the same as getting struck by lightning or winning the lottery.

[HipChick]

46. The Airline hostess were interviewed..they said she didn't appear to be pregnant to them

[GeorgeGist]

47. It means ...

she's callow.

[northofdenali]

48. K&R, Blue -

This woman is not dumb. She is not greedy. She is pure PSYCHOPATH. :pals:

[Blue_In_AK]

49. Did you ever think she would be THIS bad?

I find it rather stunning myself. I just didn't see it coming in 2006.

[SpiralHawk]

50. Typical republicon, Does not respect the truth

Makes stuff up -- all the time.

[northofdenali]

51. I did during the campaign, even,

when little Levi jumped out of her "entourage" and raised a fist at me. I guess I didn't let her pass in "respectful silence". This was during the Golden Days Parade, and I was right downtown in front of the Coop on 2 Street.

Psycho, narcissistic, BPD, whatever - she needs a padded room instead of her padded Victoria's Secret bra!

[Blue_In_AK]

79. My only experience with her during the 2006 campaign

was a brief chat at the Holiday gas station on the corner of Northern Lights and the Seward Highway where we were all out waving our signs (us for Diane Benson for House). We just spoke for a few minutes, but she seemed fairly normal then. It's sad that the Valley people didn't come forward with all they knew at that time. I blame Wasilla for ALL of this.

[Rabrrrrrr]

52. Since her ethics don't allow for intentional abortion, I think she looked for a loophole around it.

Can't FORCE an abortion, but you can do high-risk behavior that might cause the same result as an abortion, and then you're off the hook ethically.

(from her twisted ethical multiverse, that is).

That or the baby really is Bristol's. I don't think so, though. I think Sarah thought she could do an end-run around God, and she got pwned.

[Blue_In_AK]

82. I don't think the baby is Bristol's either,

but I'm pretty sure he's not Sarah's. Todd's maybe? Maybe he got someone pregnant (Ivy Frye perhaps) and the mother was bought off.

[spanone]

54. her life is a lie.

[seabeyond]

55. bottom line. she started leaking at 4a.m. and didnt make it to hospital until 12:30a.m. that night.

alaska time.

that is the height of irresponsibility

[olegramps]

58. After discussion with my brother who is a doctor I believe that she was attempting to abort.

None of this makes any sense. If she was so concerned about the welfare of the child she would have sought immediate medical attention. Why didn't she at least contact her doctor and seek advice? Its pure bull shit.

She was selected by McCain's handlers because they were going to sell her as totally pro-life candidate darling of the religious right wingers. I hope that the truth finally emerges and it bites all of them in the ass. I find it interesting that those associated with McCain's campaign seem to be distancing themselves from her.

[UTUSN]

60. She is an attention hog, but let's callher "Drama Cow" (Pearls Before Swine)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

61. I, on the other hand have not been on the fence about Trig's parentage. Between the photos

and tall tales about her "labor", Trig is not hers. My doctor broke my water to make me deliver faster! lol!

I believe Trig is Track's son.

[Raschel]

62. The story is totally unbelievable.

[LynneSin]

63. Track or Bristol?

Bristol was the one that 'went away' to live with her aunt a few months.

[Sans Culottes]

64. Not exclusive.

Could very well be Bristol and Track's. Just sayin'...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

65. I think Track. She was pregnant too soon if Trig was hers. Track had/has? a girlfriend

and she was utilized as a "babysitter" when the chillbilly grifter was campaigning..and yet they kept her presence secretive. You would think Palin would have trotted out Track's girlfriend during the campaign...girlfriend of the "warrior".

[rocktivity]

78. Sarah had Trig 4/18/08, Bristol had Trip 12/27/09

So I doubt is Bristol's. As for Track's, I do remember reading something about one of his female acquaintances being preganant.


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[Ilsa]

69. That's interesting. I wonder who/where the mother is? Yeah, "Trig"

for "Track". Seems like it could happen. She named the baby for her oldest son, now in the Army or whatever.

You are correct: If she was leaking, the procedure would be to break the amniotic sac to promote faster labor. This is a very fishy story. I wonder if someone is going to speak up when the price gets high enough.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

70. In my post #65 I expanded on why I think Track is Trig's father. I didn't realize she named

Trig after him. If that's the case it bolsters my hunch on this.

The secret keeper is the doctor who delivered Trig. She was promoted by Palin to an important position in Alaska.

[seabeyond]

71. one leak, one broken water and both i was told to come to hospital immediately

labor induced

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

76. Exactly. After my doctor broke my water (with 2nd baby), I delivered within

an hour. This was an hour of HARD and fast and furious labor.

[TwilightGardener]

68. It means she's a chronic, perpetual liar. A sociopath, really.

[Joanne98]

72. She adopted a down syndrome baby to get "solid gold pro-life credentials"

Where's Trig's birth certificate?

A little over a month after Trig was born, the state sent Governor Palin an email asking for his birth certificate. It's a routine letter, reminding Palin that if the state did not get the certificate within a month, any state benefits for the child would be suspended. Since Trig had special needs, I imagine this would be important in providing support for his rearing. Here's the first email:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/02/todd-palin-and-trig-palins-birth-certificate-emails-released.html

[Missy Vixen]

73. Here's a dumb question: When does the statute of limitations run out?

Would there be criminal charges for a) boarding a jet while in labor, when airlines discourage females from flying past their seventh month? How about b) malpractice charges for any medical professional that wouldn't discourage a 44 year old patient with a known high risk pregnancy to get on a jet at all while in labor? There was a variety of options, wasn't there?

Here's c): Why not stay in Dallas and have the baby, if she's already in labor? It would seem to me that Dallas hospitals would be better equipped to deal with this type of pregnancy and delivery than Wasilla, AK, but hell, what do I know?

I think I know the answers to the above questions, but it's too bad that the teabaggers and fundies haven't put it together yet, isn't it?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

74. Or, insurance fraud if Trig isn't hers and he wasn't legally adopted?

[Missy Vixen]

77. Occam's Razor

What's the most obvious explanation?

The next question: Who's going to have the balls (or the ovaries) to even talk about this in the mainstream media? Then again, I'm with the poster above: It's a long time till 2012, and people can't stay silent forever.

IMHO.

[cbdo2007]

80. RGA confirms that palins Labor began during conference.

http://palinemail.crivellawest.net/pdf/1111.pdf

[rocktivity]

81. Funny, she said they began in the hotel in Texas shortly after she arrived there.

Besides, if the RGA knew she was in labor, why didn't THEY get her to a hospital?

When you're in a hole, you're supposed to STOP digging!

:crazy:
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