Can anyone enlighten me about this site--Citizens Against Government Waste?

[graywarrior]

http://www.cagw.org/

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

1. Nope.

[graywarrior]

2. Damn! I'm in a debate at school over whether Sen Kerry is screwing

local taxpayers because he and Senate Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), Sens. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.), and Paul Kirk (D-Mass.), and Rep. Travis Childers (D-Miss.) added $8,100,000 for a hybrid drive system for the DDG-51 destroyer.

I need more info on this in order to debate this issue.:shrug:

[drm604]

3. From Source Watch

http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Citizens_Against_Government_Waste#External_resources

Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW) is non-profit group that has campaigned on behalf of the tobacco industry and in favour of Microsoft and against open source software.

Funding

CAGW, an IRS 501(c)(3) tax deductable charity, is closely linked to the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste (CCAGW) which is an IRS 501(c)(4) and therefore it is not a tax deductable organization but more free to do lobbying. " is the lobbying arm of CGAW."

According to the CAGW website "Eighty-five percent of the organization's funding comes from individual contributors around the nation. Corporate and foundation gifts account for the other 15 percent".

In 2001 CAGW's total budget was $4.7 million.

Media Transparency's database records CAGW as having received 8 grants totalling $225,000 (unadjusted for inflation) from three foundations - the Gordon and Mary Cain Foundation, John M. Olin Foundation and Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation. Since 1998 the only foundation funder has been Gordon and Mary Cain Foundation.

The conservative Capital Research Center (CRC) notes in its Searchlight database (which records corporate and general foundation contributions) that CAGW has "received funding from:

    * Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation
    * Merrill Lynch & Company Foundation
    * Exxon Corporation (now ExxonMobil)
    * Ingersoll-Rand Company
    * Johnson & Johnson
    * F.M. Kirby Foundation
    * Philip Morris
    * RJR Nabisco (now part of the Altria Group)
    * Sears Roebuck & Company

Others listed include:

    * John Deere Foundation
    * Eaton Charitable Fund
    * Columbia/HCA Foundation

However, CRC's database generally does not record direct corporate contributions as distinct from grants from corporate foundations.

A few examples of tobacco industry donations to CAGW:

    * Philip Morris
        * 1995, $50,000
        * 1996, $50,000
        * 1997, $50,000
        * 1998, $35,000
        * 1999, $10,000 (budgeted)
    * The Tobacco Institute
        * 1999, $10,000 (budgeted)

[graywarrior]

5. I love you!!!!!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

[drm604]

7. If you really love me

then release that poor duck!

[graywarrior]

8. How about if I treat him to a nice chianti?

[drm604]

9. Hmm...

Will you untape him long enough to drink it?

[graywarrior]

11. Let me tell you about our untaping sessions....

Ummmm....on second thought, I think I'll keep that private.

[drm604]

4. There's also this.

http://kerry.senate.gov/cfm/record.cfm?id=303798

Fitchburg: $7.6 million for DDG 51 Class Permanent Magnet Hybrid Electric Propulsion System

To design and build a hybrid electric drive system for insertion into DDG 51 class destroyers. This projected to have a payback period of approximately 3 years based only on fuel savings.

So it sounds like the hybrid system may actually save money.

I assume that you're asking about CAGW because of this page:

http://www.cagw.org/newsroom/releases/2009/pork-alert-defense.html

which characterizes the hybrid drive in question as pork.

Now why would CAGW characterize a fuel (and therefore money) saving drive as pork? Could it be because one of their contributors is Exxon Mobil?

[graywarrior]

6. Yep, that's the page and thank you !!!!

:toast: :bounce: :thumbsup: :kick: :hug:

[drm604]

12. I'm happy that I could be of help. n/t

[SemiCharmedQuark]

10. They may say they are nonpartisan, but they are RW. They've been running ads in IL against Obama

They also ran ads for McCain during the presidential campaign.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/30/AR2008053003121_pf.html

[graywarrior]

13. Oouu, this gets better and better