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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:43 PM
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Noah's Ark 2012
So, if you had to pick people, based on their hobbies or professions, who would you select if we had one ship to get off the planet before it was hit with a non-survivable disaster?

Top on my list:
Comedians
Pharmacist with a good knowledge of drugs
Botanist, who will help figure out plant life on another planet.
Old soldiers who have perspective and have learned to control their trigger fingers.


Low on the list:
(1) I'm not sure religious leaders will be necessary if you have enough comedians on board. Anyway, one of them will probably convince everyone to take the poison laced kool-aid rather than to face a future of rationing.

(2) Actuaries who will constantly remind you of your low chances of survival.

(3) Capitalist who will figure out how to prey on the weakest, selling them off for food and profit.

What does your list look like?



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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:45 PM
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1. Have to add farmers and cooks.
Need to grow food and prepare it.

And definitely religious leaders, capitalists, and actuaries need not apply. Also, insurance company executives and mercenaries like Blackwater.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:48 PM
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2. Oh, yeah, Cooks!
Farmers too. Good choices.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:49 PM
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3. I would include
Bio physicist-chemists type folks. Botanists (who has a good stash of seeds from food to medical plants for medicines.
Carpenter-builders who are also engineers to figure out how to build shelters in extreme environments.
The comedians , therapist,nursing specialists drs not so much since they are all about writing prescriptions where nurses have practical knowledge. Drs have their place but would have to be general practitioners with wide knowledge.


I would sure dis include religionists they are too superstitious and bent on bending others will to their beliefs.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:55 PM
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7. Nurses definitely get a bump in my new universe.
Now, I mean nurses with a good disposition. Not the ones who treat you like Nurse Ratchet would.
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:50 PM
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4. Definitely a chemist and an engineer.
How big is the ship?
:D
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:57 PM
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8. As big as it needs to be.
I think we have to be careful with engineers. It's one thing to know how to conceptualize the architecture of mechanical things, but, when they try to apply that to community development, they can be control freaks.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:51 PM
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5. lawyers, fundies, politicians, and other assorted douchebaggers
at least then for the last few weeks, we'd be rid of them and left to party as we watched the asteroid whiz right by us.

2012 is another booga booga end o times day. Let's use it to clean house.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:03 PM
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10. That's what I'm saying. Who would you want on YOUR ship.
Lawyers are a mix bag. If you have a legal mind with a good heart, then you might want a few of those around because the key is having someone with a logical mind. Believe it or not, lawyers do have the ability to analyze an issue, remembering important tenets that most people tend to forget as they rush to decisions which put the end before the means. The problem with the legal profession is that it jumped the shark a long time ago in regards to ethics.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 05:39 PM
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38. Farmers, hunters, cooks, carpenters, nurses, teachers, and story tellers.
Story tellers will be the new shamans who build the mythic underpinnings of a new society. He or she must be able to fashion and play musical instruments.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:54 PM
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6. Hairdressers and telephone sanitizers
Oh wait...

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:12 PM
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12. I'm okay with hairdressers.
We won't need telephone sanitizers because we'll be hooked into the main central computer like Lobot from star wars.

"You think Lobot's mute, but he's just too busy talking to the central computer to bother speaking to us 'organics'."
―Lando Calrissian

For us social autistic people, Lobot rulz!
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:57 PM
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9. Spaceship? An experienced astronaut might be a good choice. nt
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:13 PM
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13. Navigator.
Astronauts are for your grandma.
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 07:52 PM
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39. Astronaut good enough for me ;)

Now they have the title Navigator, and no money for spaceships. They were better off when they were Astronauts.
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seattle_blue Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:11 PM
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11. My priorities
I'd have
A. A Chemist
B. A Brewer
C. My favorite porn star(s).
-----Nothing Follows-----
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:14 PM
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14. No porn stars.
We are a contained community and can't spend much time sorting out VD in space.

Especially when we might be sharing the same spacesuit.
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divvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:21 PM
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15. The Backlash Cameth and Wentith ....

1) Happy People
2) Dirty Fighters who are dedicated progressive activists
3) Comedians
3) Ethical Realists to replace Fundamental Religiosity for a new basis of morality which is safe for women, children, nudity, sex, and love.
4) A two party political / economic system based on the numerical weighting representative of "the rights of capitalists" vs "the rights of all living creatures minus capitalists."
5) Science, Logic, Math, poets/writers, pornographers, minus violence, plus the Goddess Disciplina in the best sense.
6) Creative Engineers
7) People who love to learn first and teach second
8) Anyone who does not need for it to be explained why greed and selfishness is wrong.
9) Anyone who is not afraid of differences
10)Curious people who have at least a tepid relationship with any two above
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:28 PM
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16. That list looks too perfect.
"Happy People" is one of those terms which may turn into a trap. They say that pessimist live longer because they have a more realistic image of their world, so their decisions are more cautious. Being cautious is not a bad trait to have in outerspace.

I wouldn't rule out pessimists, as long as a good comedian can shake them out of their moods.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:32 PM
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17. botanist? "who will help figure out plant life on another planet."...?
do you even understand how many generations(hundreds?) it would take to reach another earth-like planet...? IF one could even be located as a possible destination.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:51 PM
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19. Okay, then how about a botanist with a biosphere on board full of plants?
Plants to help with the oxygen levels, food supply and pharma production. Oh, and on my Ark, we've already figured out how plants convert sunlight into energy. Helps out with some of the energy supply issues on board.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 03:10 PM
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23. where do you get water from?
on your ark...
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:08 PM
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26. Hmmmm...
Well, you have heard that recently we have found water in meteorites. Right? Well, by the year 2012, our space ship will have a "mouth" at the front so that, as it travels through space, it will collect space dust the way that whales collect plankton from the sea. Well, this dust collects in hoppers and when there's enough to call soil, we can then put them in the pressers, squeezing what moisture is possible. After, we determine, of course, that there is no radiation in the harvest.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:18 PM
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31. "by the year 2012..."
have you checked a calender lately...? how are those production deadlines coming?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:20 PM
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32. Trademark secrets.
Can't tell.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:55 PM
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21. a botantist would be assigned to help keep the hydroponics going
they have to be an operational botanist who understand the relationships between plants, how they grow/ breed/seed/nutrition/ and to keep that knowledge alive until the ship gets where its going. Then figure out what if anything there would be edible, or other wise usable and what from the human plants would work or how they could be adapted.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 03:14 PM
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24. that's not the reason given for their inclusion.
"they have to be an operational botanist who understand the relationships between plants, how they grow/ breed/seed/nutrition/ and to keep that knowledge alive until the ship gets where its going."

wow- you'd think a fancy space ark like that would have computers with data banks LOADED with the necessary info.
but as the 'telephone game' conclusively proves- it's probably better to pass the info along orally, from one generation to the next...:eyes:
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:50 PM
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18. Native American Elders, medicine men/women.
People who are wise and respect/care for the environment, revere nature.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:52 PM
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20. All good.
Except that all cultures have things that people don't want to talk about. Like, some Indian cultures would cut the tips of the noses of women who were unfaithful. Saw it on Dances with Wolves.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 03:16 PM
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25. yeah...they'd be right at home in a space ark.
probably their fondest wish in life would be to leave their ancestral home in a marvel of advanced technology.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:10 PM
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27. Oh, that reminds me.
We'll need cynics to give the comedians some material.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 03:07 PM
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22. And some handsome, smart silver foxes for we girls of a certain age...c'mon...n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:13 PM
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28. You're hoping for silver foxes,
and now I have to figure out where we're going to find an endless supply of rubber.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 05:26 PM
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37. Oh honey, at my age that's irrelevant. Let the good times roll!!..n/t
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:16 PM
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29. Virile young men...and lots of them.
:evilgrin:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:18 PM
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30. Damn.
This thing is turning into the love boat.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:24 PM
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33. I'd go alone.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:28 PM
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36. Where's the adventure?
You're already there.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:26 PM
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34. just me
And as many strippers as I can get on board :evilgrin:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:27 PM
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35. Okay, that's it. Everybody is taking salt peter before getting on board.
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