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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:38 PM
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So, how can the tea baggers defend this guy when he did a rerun of 9/11?
I don't get it. It's okay to fly planes into buildings if they agree with your issue? :wtf:
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:39 PM
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1. Thus it has ever been.
One man's patriotism is another man's terrorism.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:40 PM
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2. people will make excuses and justifcations
to enable events to fit their narrative. Witness more than a few DU posts that make that clear.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:42 PM
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3. They are?!
I've been out and just returned home.

I said it before but I repeat - Those people are anarchists.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:42 PM
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4. Because now that the president's a democrat and black, they hate America.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:01 PM
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22. Ding Ding we have a winner n/t
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:45 PM
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27. Yes we do. Ding ding ding!
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:33 PM
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38. +1
I will second that ding..
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:44 PM
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5. If 9/11 had been done by white rednecks with confederate flags on their planes
they would have defended that too.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:54 PM
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13. Oh, geeze.
Probably.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:29 PM
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33. Absolutely.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:45 PM
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6. The Teabaggers want an armed revolution
they just don't have the cojones to actually start the war. They applaud anyone who preaches succession or who physically attacks their enemies (us godless commies).

It's not clear that Stack even shares their beliefs other than his hatred of the IRS and government bailouts of the auto industry.

But they are ready to award him some sort of accolade for "standing up to the government" (never mind the act of attempted mass murder of people who actually have very little power to shape policy or anything else, but they need a job so they work for the IRS and become targets of the hate of the wacko right).
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:46 PM
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7. If Glenn Beck flew a plane into the Sears Tower it would kick off a national trend.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:57 PM
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It may be he already has.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:36 PM
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39. Glenn Beck did NOT fly a plane into a building in 1990. nt
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:41 AM
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47. LOL !
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:46 PM
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8. They don't seem to realize that this guy just screwed them over big time
What do they think is gonna happen when someone who claims to be a part of your group decides to suicide bomb a building in your groups name? Just gives people an excuse to come after you. Good job moran!
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:47 PM
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9. Because he's not a Mooooooooslim.
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 05:49 PM by Cali_Democrat
Had he been a muslim, the teabaggers would have called for Saudi Arabia to be nuked.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:51 PM
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10. I didn't realize they were defending him but I'm not surprised
Consistency and logic have never been part of their DNA.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:51 PM
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11. His insane action is resonating with a hell of a lot of people
whether or not they are idiot teabaggers or more thoughtful folks who know they've gotten a raw deal for a whole lot of years, especially if they've read that letter of his.

Expect other dumb, desperate people to go over the edge.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:55 PM
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14. It is. Buckle up, Warpy.
:(
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:52 PM
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12. I'd love some links to that stuff
I can't bear going to those sites much anymore. I used to debate those nuts endlessly. I never swayed one. No matter how I proved their position wrong. They are insane, in my opinion, now.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:56 PM
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15. I stopped watching cable news so I can't help.
And I never go to those sites. The hatred, fear and ignorance is sickening.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:58 PM
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17. I started watching again - MSNBC rocks n/t
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:57 PM
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16. They'll say he's a liberal
And the corporate media will repeat it ad ininitum.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:58 PM
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19. I bet you're right. n/t
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:08 PM
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23. Considering his manifesto did mention Chimpy
I'm sure that will be the right wing spin by the time Joe Dead Intern hits the airwaves tomorrow. Or Hannity might actually get there first tonight on FAUX.

Never mind that everything else he said was pure teabagger spew.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:25 PM
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31. had a mix of both ...
here's the link to his text ... mentions Arthur Anderson, other "lefty targets" ... but also blasts "corrupt union" (a favorite talking point of RWers), evil GM execs (why is Howie Long, Republican, shilling for Chevy, anyway?) ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35461747/ns/us_news-life

looks like he might (emphasis ... MIGHT) have been a recent convert to TeaPartyisms ...
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:29 PM
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32. Nope ...
as others have picked up on ...

The MSM will gloss over it, and then use it as an example of the "anger" in america to use against Ds and BO ... At worst going into next week it will be used to support how bad things are to keep the negative swell for the Rs in place ...
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:38 PM
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41. He's as liberal as Ron Paul
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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:58 PM
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18. Don't know if the guy's actually a wingnut
he had this in his manifesto:

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

Strange
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:59 PM
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21. My point is that the teabaggers leaped to defend him.
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 06:28 PM by EFerrari
I have no idea who he was. :shrug:
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B2G Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:12 PM
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29. Where are you seeing him defended?
I must have missed that part.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:29 PM
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35. They put up a page on Facebook for him, iirc.
There's a couple of threads on it floating around here somewhere.

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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:58 PM
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20. Populist Conspiracism or producerism
Populist Conspiracism

When conspiracism is blended with populism, the result is frequently a worldview called "producerism." Producerist movements consider the "real" patriotic Americans to be hard-working people in the middle- and working-class who create goods and wealth while fighting against "parasites" at the top and bottom of society who pick their pockets.

... As right-wing populist movements grow, they can lure mainstream politicians to adopt scapegoating, in order to attract voters. Their theories can legitimize acts of discrimination, or even violence. And reformist populist movements can open the door for insurgent right-wing movements such as fascism to recruit from their own movements by arguing that more drastic action is needed....


More: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7737812&mesg_id=7737812
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:18 PM
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24. ... and why aren't they calling him a terrorist?
.... he committed an act of terror, aimed against the US Government, in which civilians may have also been injured or killed.

Oh, wait ... he's white and not wearing a turban. Never mind. :eyes:
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:18 PM
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25. He's white, that makes it ok
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:34 PM
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26. The TEABAGGERS can now be called domestic TERRORISTS
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:00 PM
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28. What tea baggers are defending?
I haven't heard that. Do you have a link? Thanks.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:23 PM
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30. Here
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:30 PM
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34. I've seen a couple of these threads here now...
...and I can't figure out where people are getting that this guy was a right winger.

Other than his hate for the IRS, there is pretty much nothing in his diatribe that is right wing.

He hates capitalism, organized religion, and even seems to be claiming that communism is better than capitalism at the end.

What am I missing? Did I miss some of his musings? What is right wing about this person?

This guy doesn't seem to be either left or right wing, just kinda mad at everyone and everything. And he was apparently a tax chat who is pissed his troubles couldn't be resolved.

In fact, from reading this guy's manifesto, I'd bet it won't be long before Fox News and the radio shouters are claiming this was a left wing revolutionary.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:30 PM
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36. Check out Emit's post above yours.
I don't know who he was but those geniuses at the Tea Klux Klan are claiming him.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:31 PM
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37. he was probably more like Timothy McVeigh in their eyes
because after all the building targeted was a government building
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:36 PM
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40. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
Sadly
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:52 PM
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42. It's the 90s militia freaks all over again, just older and wealthier.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:55 PM
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43. I guess 9/11 didn't "change everything". n/t
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:56 PM
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44. I hear glenn beck was crapping himself
Apparenlty he said something along the lines that Violence is never the answer, dont use violence, and
that the time for the revoultion is not now.

All the BS hen has been spouting is starting to have its effect.
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fan of the arts Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:57 PM
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45. I don't care what hypocritical racists like the bagger think
They are mental cases so discussing what they think is really a discussion of mental issues, not terrorism issues.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:39 AM
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46. That's right. I was asking about the "logic".
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 01:05 AM
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48. "he may be an airplane suicide bomber, but he's OUR airplane suicide bomber!"
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