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Mon Feb-22-10 08:42 PM
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Is curling just shuffleboard on ice? |
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Where's the teams of retired folks from Florida? The geriatric team? To be honest, I don't get curling as an Olympic sport. Do they just sweep the ice to influence the path of the 'curl'? It seems like a good bar sport. In the old days there used to be shuffleboard tables in bars, with steel pucks and sawdust. Then again, I live in a desert state, no curling here.
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Mon Feb-22-10 08:46 PM
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1. Curling...the sport of beauticians. |
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Mon Feb-22-10 08:47 PM
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2. Here's a decent FAQ to help get you started |
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Mon Feb-22-10 09:02 PM
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12. LOL @ the Team USA curling FAQ |
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http://curling.teamusa.org/pages/99FAQ FAQ Text © 2009 United States Olympic Committee. All rights reserved.
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Mon Feb-22-10 08:47 PM
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Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 08:48 PM by Patsy Stone
The ice is pebbled, and the sweeping smooths it out to control the speed and direction of the "curl".
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Wed Feb-24-10 08:02 AM
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28. In addition, the sweeping raises the temperature of the ice. |
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Curling is the only sport where the trajectory of the projectile can be influenced after the stone has been released. Players sweep the ice in front of the stone to momentarily increase the temperature of the ice as the stone passes over it and reduce the friction between the stone and the ice. (From The Sports Science Of Curling: A Practical Review)
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Mon Feb-22-10 08:49 PM
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4. it's tougher than it looks |
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They interviewed Wayne Gretzky at a curling match this weekend. He's tried it, and says it's surprising how athletic you have to be to do it.
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Mon Feb-22-10 08:49 PM
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5. kinda reminds me of shuffleboard |
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Mon Feb-22-10 08:54 PM
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6. Drafting is important in controlling the path. |
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It may be on the same level as horseshoes more so than shuffleboard.
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Mon Feb-22-10 08:55 PM
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7. Competitive Curling is definitely a sport |
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If you play three of four ten-end games a day, you end up walking more distance than a golfer.
Sweeping is a lot more tiring than it looks. And those rocks weigh 40 pounds. It's no so easy to deftly manoeuvrer such a weight to a target over 100 ft. away, accurately.
Not too many people over 50 in the top ranks of professional curlers.
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Mon Feb-22-10 08:58 PM
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9. Sweeping is definitely work and takes finesse and strategizing |
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its like making fun of bowling when you are incapable of getting anything more than a gutter ball. Have you ever picked up a large split?
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Mon Feb-22-10 09:01 PM
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10. No, but I've been a competitive curler |
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Not professional, but I won a few championships and bonspiels. I can tell you right now, I wouldn't be able to keep up that pace again.
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Tue Feb-23-10 11:58 PM
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20. More distance than a golfer? I must be missing something here. |
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Ten ends. Does that mean "one end" means walking the length of the ice two times? I might be totally wrong in that, and if I am, please correct me. If I am right...
The length of the curling sheet is max 150 feet. That means each "end" should be 300 feet, right? Ten "ends" would mean 3000 feet. Three games would be 9,000 feet, or 1.7 miles.
The golf courses I play average about 6500 yards. That's 19,500 feet, or a hair under 3.7 miles.
That said, I believe that yes, Curling is MOST DEFINITELY a sport.
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Wed Feb-24-10 07:15 AM
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21. each team throws eight stones per end |
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so multiply your numbers by 8.
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Wed Feb-24-10 01:22 PM
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29. Okay, if you say... 1.7 miles is what I figured. Multiply that by 8 and you get 13.6 miles. |
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So you're saying that during a curling match of ten ends each individual covers 13.6 miles, 150 feet at a time.
Maybe you missed the point of my question... which was how far does a single curler travel in a ten end game.
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Wed Feb-24-10 03:08 PM
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34. Three of four players walk the length for each stone |
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Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 03:31 PM by pokerfan
the shooter and two sweepers. So it's probably something like 0.75 * 8 * 10 * 150. On the other hand it's not really walking; it's gliding on teflon. I'm not arguing that curling is some kind of marathon of endurance. But is it a sport? Sure. At least it's not judged on style points. It has The Great One's endorsement and that's good enough for me.
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Mon Feb-22-10 08:56 PM
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8. No definitely not - unless you are able to change the shuffle board in the middle of a throw |
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Mon Feb-22-10 09:02 PM
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11. It's close. But I wouldn't say *just*' |
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Because that tends, somewhat,to invalidate shuffleboard as well.
I am a newly born fan of curling!
I got hooked. It most definitely takes a lot of finesse, nuance and control. Just because it isn't accompanied by speed and a time clock doesn't make it any less a sport.
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Mon Feb-22-10 09:10 PM
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14. There's a time clock. In international competition each team gets 73min to throw all their stones. |
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Tue Feb-23-10 11:37 PM
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19. I wasn't clear in my statement... |
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a speed time clock, as in the best time wins. :) peace, Lilly
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Mon Feb-22-10 09:08 PM
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13. It's like more bocce ball... |
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Mon Feb-22-10 09:54 PM
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15. If you grow up in Canada or here on the border it is a great sport. |
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Mon Feb-22-10 09:57 PM
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16. There aren't that many Winter sports |
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It has enough appeal and heck why not have it in the games. It's a little harder than shuffle board. Basically it's all about how hard people try to get things into the Olympics. I mean Golf is still not in and oddly the PGA doesn't really want it in. Clearly the Curlers want it in and fight hard to keep it. They just made a lot of new fans this Olympics I think.
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Mon Feb-22-10 10:09 PM
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17. I think they are different |
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In curling you move the brush before the puck of what ever it is to make it move on the ice. In all the shuffleboard I have played you push the puck down the board to the spaces to score on the other end. Lot of difference.
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Mon Feb-22-10 10:50 PM
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18. When I visited BC and locals told me about curling, I didn't believe em |
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Wed Feb-24-10 07:26 AM
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22. Most curling courts have beer holders cut right into the ice |
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Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 07:28 AM by NNN0LHI
I heard a commentator who was covering the game mention that.
Don
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Wed Feb-24-10 03:10 PM
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A curling commentator!!!!
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Wed Feb-24-10 07:27 AM
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23. And to think that crap preempted KO and Rachel reruns. |
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Wed Feb-24-10 07:31 AM
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24. Curling is as much of a sport as golf. |
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Wed Feb-24-10 07:33 AM
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25. More like chess billiards. nt |
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Wed Feb-24-10 07:34 AM
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26. No. The sweeping and the fact that it is on ice make it different. |
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Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 07:34 AM by TexasObserver
If you notice the rocks used and the manner in which they're thrown, there is spin put on the rock by the shooter. The speed of the rock and nature of the spin are two big factors in the movement of the rock. Another is the role of sweepers, who can make the rock slide further, or move to one side or the other. It's called CURLING for a reason.
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Wed Feb-24-10 07:49 AM
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27. FYI - Curling is Scottish and over 500 years old. |
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It predates many of the sports we watch in the Olympics.
If you think sliding a 40 pound rock with accuracy down an icy lane is as easy as shuffle board, give it a try. Notice that you're supposed to spin the handle as you push it off, to put a proper spin to influence the movement of the stone.
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Wed Feb-24-10 02:51 PM
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33. The History of Curling, by John Kerr (1890): |
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Wed Feb-24-10 05:57 PM
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37. Got Cliff's Notes for that? |
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Wed Feb-24-10 02:41 PM
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30. Give 'em mops and a pail and they're scrubbing the kitchen floor. n/t |
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Wed Feb-24-10 02:47 PM
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31. Spoken as someone who's obviously never tried the game... |
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many sports look easy to the armchair athelete.
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Wed Feb-24-10 02:47 PM
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32. it has elements of billiards and snooker as well as shuffleboard |
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and some bocce thrown in for good measure. Not to mention the ice.
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Wed Feb-24-10 03:10 PM
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35. There's way too much curling in these Olympics. It's a sport with a strictly parochial appeal. nt |
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