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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:32 PM
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Pediatricians want hot dogs reshaped and repackaged with warning labels.
decades ago, I was babysitting a 2 year old. Thank goodness I was standing by when the hot dog caught in his throat. He started choking then the perfectly shaped for choking hot dog piece flew out his mouth. If I had stepped out of the room, if he hadn't been able to dislodge the dog himself...OMG. HOT DOGS ARE THE DEVIL!!!


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Hot dogs declared choking hazard. Should they get a new look?
By Carrie Stetler
February 23, 2010, 6:08PM

Are hot dogs so dangerous they need to look more like chicken nuggets?Until my kids were out of kindergarten, I was paranoid about hot dogs. I knew they were one of the most common foods that could choke children, so when I served them to my kids, I cut them into bits.

Hot dogs never hurt them. And now that they're older, I don't worry so much. But the American Academy of Pediatrics thinks hot dogs are so dangerous they should be reshaped and repackaged with prominant warning labels.

A vocal advocate for the changes is Joan Stavros Adler of Warren County, whose four-year-old son Eric died in 2001 after choking on a hot dog.

Foods that are round or cylindrical pose the greatest risk according to experts, so why not change that? Hard candies should be flat, they recommend. But so far, there's been no consensus on what hot dogs would look like if food manufacturers follow the academy's suggestions.

http://www.nj.com/parenting/carrie_stetler/index.ssf/2010/02/hot_dogs_declared_choking_haza.html


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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:34 PM
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1. when I worked Pedi-we had 4 kids do this...hot dogs were #1 choking hazard
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:52 PM
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20. Right, that's what I learned in nursing school
I'd avoid feeding hot dogs to kids while they are infants and toddlers, at the very least, and probably hold back on them until the kids are school age. I'd also make teaching parents the Heimlich maneuver a part of prenatal care.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 10:00 PM
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27. agreed...I also had 4 kids die from tylenol OD-pre-childproof caps...
If the technology exists,why not?
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:36 PM
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2. Seriously? Isn't that a bit much?
I mean, I could see a warning for all the chemicals, but for choking? What's next, a drowning warning on water bottles?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:37 PM
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3. buckets have warning labels on them these days. Small kids can fall head first and drown
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:42 PM
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8. Yes they do. Outside of institutional/commercial preperation, I am unaware of buckets being involved
in meals.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:38 PM
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4. How about grapes?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:39 PM
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5. another choking hazard!
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:43 PM
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12. Maybe we can genetically engineer a new shape. Somebody has to put tiny warning labels on each one.
It'll be a whole new industry.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 03:13 AM
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44. Lasers

And make everyone buy a microscope so they can read the labels
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:40 PM
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6. Can a person possibly choke on a chicken nugget, or a pea, or
most any bite size food item? Or even a bite of pork chop?

Can an eye be stabbed with a fork? Or a pea stuffed up a nostril?

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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 10:07 PM
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29. my cousin got a dandilion stuck up her nose once.
she was having trouble breathing and my aunt knew she didn't have a cold. At first, when my aunt pulled it out we thought it was a big spider. Apparently it had been in there a few days and had turned black.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:40 PM
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7. so do some christian fundies.
those things are OBSCENE.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:42 PM
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9. Don't feed children age inappropriate foods.
A huge proportion of "accidental" child deaths are no accident. They are the result of adult ignorance, stupidity, or inattention.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:58 PM
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26. +100! nt
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:25 AM
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50. I object to your use of the word "retarded" in this context.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:43 PM
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11. I fed a kid I was babysitting a hot dog
about an hour later he started getting pains in his stomach that got worse and worse - I panicked and ran for my dad (two houses away) - I babbled that I thought I had poisoned this boy with a hot dog - dad took the boy to the hospital - it was an appendix rupture - turned out the boy had had pains for some time but hadn't said anything because he was afraid he'd be kicked off of Little League. Hoo boy. :o
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:47 PM
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13. Darwin awards are there for a reason
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 11:39 PM
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38. Exactly. Stupid fucking children.
Choking on a hot dog, serves those little fucking bastards right. Gotta clean up that gene pool, eh?

:sarcasm:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:47 PM
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14. Reshape 'em, put warning labels on 'em, include a pkg insert...
Edited on Tue Feb-23-10 09:49 PM by hlthe2b
Any of that can be done and I certainly won't object, but the bottom line really has to be observant and anticipating parents.

Yes, with two parent working households, I know how hard that can be. But when I think to the deadly risks my Mother and her cohort managed to keep us away from without benefit of child safety locks, warnings on everything we buy, child-safety tested toys, etc., etc., it is a wonder any of us survived past childhood.

Mom would see candy or food that might cause us to choke and she'd cut it up or take it away. She'd see a deadly discarded fridge behind a house and go down there to demand they rope or chain it shut or get rid of it. If a child went missing, Mom knew to check the trunks of those big honking cars that didn't open from the inside. It was instinctive with her as it is with me now, when I see children or pets coming into contact with potential risks.

So reshape the hotdog or whatever additional measures they want to do. That is just fine, until the next hazard-- which is out there already, I can assure you. Or maybe we need to teach those observational and consistent anticipatory parental skills that kept the rest of us out of danger all along-- How to be in the moment. How to avoid deadly distractions. :shrug:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:49 PM
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15. What's Next....Warnings on Johnsons? n/t
Edited on Tue Feb-23-10 09:49 PM by Binka
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:49 PM
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16. Hot dogs already come in another shape
Its called "bologna".
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 10:35 PM
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33. +1
That is just what I was thinking.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:22 AM
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49. but, but, but
the little darlings might put a slice over their noses and mouths and be unable to breathe! Bologna needs warning labels, too. Or maybe safety holes. Yes. Safety holes would be perfect.

Or maybe the "concerned pediatricians of america" needs to STFU and get back to the vaccinating and handing out lollipops. Buncha fucking dolts.

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agent46 Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:50 PM
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17. With all the scandals
With all the scandals in the meat industry I'm just glad hotdogs are made of plastic.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:51 PM
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18. Maybe, perhaps, parents could teach the little rugrats to chew their food properly.
Or maybe parents should not feed their kids hot dogs until they determine if their kids are at least smart enough to take decent sized bites, chew and then swallow instead of just swallowing their food whole like a fucking goddamn Hoover. Make parents teach their little spawn how to fucking chew and swallow properly!

Leave the fucking hot dogs ALONE!

Lame brained stupid fucking idea... fucking with hot dogs that way... people oughta be ashamed of themselves... wanting to fuck with an American classic that way...

AMERICA HATERS!!!

PARTY POOPERS!!!

MORONS!!!

:rant:

THERE!!! That feels better now.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:53 PM
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22. Yeah, I'd be more inclined to keep them away from the rug rats
than force manufacturers to change the shape. Somehow, a round, flat dog in a burger bun just wouldn't be the same.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:55 PM
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23. It wouldn't be a hot dog at all. It would be a bologna sandwich.
:P
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 11:31 PM
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37. Yeah, and why bother?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:51 PM
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19. I have a better idea...
instead of reshaping hot dogs, feed your kids HAMBURGERS!
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:52 PM
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21. Forget about it...
it's what's IN the hot dogs we should be concerned about.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:57 PM
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24. What about cherries? On our daughters first birthday she grabbed the cherry on
top of her cake and popped in her mouth. Our friend happened to be holding her and squeezed her stomach to pop it out.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:58 PM
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25. i would cut in half and put on bun. kids rarely have hot dogs. one of the worst foods. nt
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 10:04 PM
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28. I think they should have a warning
but I don't think they need to be reshaped. Any parent with half a brain isn't going to give a toddler a hot dog without cutting it up. Besides there's the potential for a child to choke on anything or even an adult for that matter. I once choked on cheese from my french onion soup. I had to reach down my throat and pull the cheese out, else I would have died.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 10:13 PM
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30. Christ. Try monitoring your kids and teaching them to chew.
I quite frankly could not care less.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 10:14 PM
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31. The warning label needs to say: DON'T EAT THIS SHIT.
Feeding garbage to kids. Slaughterhouse leftovers. Might as well scoop a can of 9-Lives into a bun and cover it in mustard.
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unabelladonna Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 10:24 PM
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32. let's puree all food
do parents bear any responsibility for the well-being of their children? where do we draw the line. apples (kids can choke on skin), rice (grains can lodge in the throat)..it doesn't end.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 03:10 AM
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43. Yes, agreed. Getting rid of any remotely possible risk to any child anywhere is an urgent need.
Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 03:11 AM by Withywindle
And I once saw someone here on a thread about a news story that involved a 19-year-old referring to the "child."

We should puree all food for kids into a formless paste until the kid has his or her BA safely in hand. Can't be too careful!
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 05:12 AM
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46. but then you might aspirate. better to have a tube feeding. except for the infection danger
Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 05:12 AM by Hannah Bell
from the placement surgery.

i'm afraid it's hopeless.
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 10:35 PM
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34. I just used to cut them into smaller pieces. n/t
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:39 AM
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40. The hot dogs? Or the children?
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 04:15 AM
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45. LOL... the hot dogs...
...did it for the dogs, too.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 10:36 PM
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35. I can go along with a warning label.
A lot of people may not realize the potential risk.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 10:38 PM
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36. A minority of how many pediatricians?
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:55 AM
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39. They should be shaped like spoons - they're just mustard-delivery vehicles, anyway...
:9
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:47 AM
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41. Hot dogs, apples...many food items are potentially dangerous for toddlers
We bought skinless dogs & I took a potato masher to them .. easier for the boys to eat and safer too..

apples were peeled and then the fruit "forked" off the core..

I feel sad for the young Moms who apparently did not have much training..and who are surprised that a toddler cannot navigate many foods safely...or window blind-cords..or stairs..or bathtubs or pools..

When my kids were little, I literally crawled around the house looking at stuff from their level, and was amazed at all the "interesting" stuff they might want to get into..
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:53 AM
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42. Humans choke to death on food every year. IV feeding only!
Food should be outlawed. All threats to humanity must be eliminated.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 05:13 AM
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47. iv feeds pose infection risk. suicide is the only option.
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 09:53 AM
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48. I choked swallowing water down the wrong pipe & damned near passed out
Just sayin', because if my progeny were as stupid as I was even soup wouldn't be safe.

Also, is this the same American Academy of Pediatrics that recommended not prescribing antibiotics for a kid's ear infection because "over-prescribing" contributes to resistant bacteria?

I would have suggested not shoveling antibiotics into all our livestock and spraying it all over fruit trees. However, I'm not a medical professional. Their solutions are more creative than mine.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:27 AM
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51. There's an amazing new invention called a "knife", that can use to cut foods into small pieces
Especially useful for parents of small children.

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