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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:34 PM
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CNN Poll - Forty Six Percent Say Obama Is Too Liberal, Only 1 in 10 Say Not Liberal Enough
Edited on Thu Feb-25-10 12:02 AM by TomCADem
I have to say thank you to President Obama for not giving up on comprehensive health care reform in spite of polls showing that nearly half of the American public say he's too liberal while only 1 in 10 say he is not liberal enough. I imagine that an even smaller amount would argue that he is conservative:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/12/obama.poll/index


"The president's ratings also suffer from the growing perception that he is too liberal," he said: Forty-six percent feel that way today, up 10 points from March.

The poll also indicates that one in 10 people polled said Obama has not been liberal enough.


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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:35 PM
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1. "TOO liberal"???? what in the name of sweet reason are these people smoking?
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:38 PM
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3. Rather than attacking the President for not carrying our water, perhaps we need to organize
Yet, there is organized effort to sow discord and division among Democrats by suggesting that President Obama is corporatist or not sufficiently liberal. Worse, any time President Obama attempts to reach out to moderates, the astroturf types claim on behalf of liberals on Fox News that President Obama is not sufficiently liberal.

Have you noticed how liberals never get on Sunday news programs unless they attack the President? Coincidence? Otherwise, it is a steady diet of conservadems and Republicans.

Fight the media brainwashing, and support Health Care Reform now!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:36 PM
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2. We are losing the public relations battle
sadly.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:39 PM
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4. I didn't know our side was even bothering to fight.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:53 PM
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18. Certainly worth considering. nt
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:40 PM
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5. Are You Saying That President Obama Should Move To The Right?
In order to placate the 46 percent who are saying he is too liberal? Or, are you saying that liberals need to go out and start promoting their ideas as mainstream, rather than demanding purity tests of fellow liberals, progressives and Democrats?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:52 PM
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16. You are trying too hard to fight with somebody. nt
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:43 PM
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7. We are losing the Corporate Media Propaganda battle. They control the airwaves. nt
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:52 PM
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17. agreed nt
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:16 AM
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34. Yup. nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:41 PM
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6. Bullshit.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:44 PM
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8. dead link. Did it mention specific policies?
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:02 AM
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22. Oops, fixed the link
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:45 PM
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9. These People Wouldn't Recognize A Liberal If We Saved Thier Asses With Universal Healcare !!!
:wtf:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:45 PM
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10. And 72.3% don't know what "liberal" really means
60% of them would agree with liberal principles if they weren't labeled "liberal".
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:46 PM
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11. Then it must be true (or America has drifted so far right of center they don't know the difference)
Oh yeah, and Nixon was a socialist
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:48 PM
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12. Where are they polling? Orange County, CA, Dummyville, Alabama
Pantywad, GA, PraiseJesus, MS, Fifteenkids, AR?
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:12 AM
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27. Liberals Need To Stop Being In Denial, And Start Spreading The Word!
Simply complaining that everyone is an idiot is not going to win us any friends.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:36 AM
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41. I agree. nt
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:50 PM
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13. CNN poll..
:rofl:
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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:50 PM
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14. 46% of poll respondents have never seen a real piece of liberal legislation...
...since there aren't enough of them in Washington.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:51 PM
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15. he is more right than left but the propoganda is working - they have
found if they just lie over and over it works = look at how many thinks iraq and 911 are the same
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 11:53 PM
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19. This proves nothing except that the country is as divided as it was during the election. nt
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:00 AM
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20. i don't think he's too liberal.
he's a centrist like bill clinton was.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:02 AM
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21. Are these the same idiots who don't know they got a tax cut?
or are they complaining about a tax cut because it was from a liberal? nah, they're too stupid to know they got a tax cut, they're too stupid to know what a liberal is.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:03 AM
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23. They vote occasionally too. nt
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:16 AM
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29. more than 70% of these same idiots don't know they got a tax cut
as of a Feb. 12th CBS poll.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/12/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6201911.shtml

• 24 percent of respondents said they INCREASED taxes.
• 53 percent said they kept taxes the same
• And 12 percent said taxes were decreased.

Of people who support the grassroots, "Tea Party" movement, only 2 percent think taxes have been decreased, 46 percent say taxes are the same, and a whopping 44 percent say they believe taxes have gone up.

so what does this say? it says WE HAVE NO LIBERAL MEDIA.

it says WE HAVE NO REAL MEDIA ON PRIMETIME TV IN AMERICA.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:24 AM
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30. Agree With You. This Is Why It Is Senseless To Sit On The Sidelines and Complain
Yet, you look on this Board and you would think that Democrats are the greatest threat to liberalism. We give Republicans and the corporate media a free pass. We need to wake up, and stop buying into the corporate media's efforts at promoting division and discord.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:14 AM
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32. No. Both republicans and democrats need to be held responsible
Edited on Thu Feb-25-10 09:16 AM by RainDog
because there are democrats who are doing no favors to Americans, and in fact hurt them, even with a "d" after their names.

These democrats should be "convinced" to vote with the party by punishing them for voting against the people of the United States. This is where democrats in the legislature have failed us - by not strongarming the conservadems - Obama should have put on the pressure because he certainly could.

In order to accomplish effective legislation, this is sometimes necessary.

In order to let the democrats know we EXPECT democratic legislation, not republican, we need to let them know in whatever way gets their attention.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:28 AM
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36. So, Only Democrats Should Be Held Accountable...For The Actions Of Non-Democrats?
Not every Democrat is Ben Nelson. Joe Lieberman is not even a Democrat. Bart Stupak's views are in the minority among Democrats. Yet, many DUers hold them up as representative of Democrats in Washington. Its like Fox News only interviewing liberals when they attack President Obama.

Individual democrats should be held accountable for their actions. But, I am not going to vote out Barbara Boxer based on the actions of Ben Nelson. The Republicans, on the other hand, vote like the Borg. There is no real reason to differentiate, since they simply vote no on all progressive legislation.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 10:13 AM
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45. well d'oh. obviously.
we're basically saying the same thing.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:36 AM
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40. the tax cut
See, I kind of think Obama should have just sent everyone a check like Bush did. Reducing withholding a little bit had nearly the same effect, but most people apparently didn't notice.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:04 AM
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24. Where was the poll conducted, Oklahoma CIty? n/t
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557188 Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:09 AM
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25. Obama is TOO Liberal!!!
The Classical Liberal variety. The Ronald Reagan variety baby.

IE bad for progressives.

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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:31 AM
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31. The Question Is Whether We Will Stop Eating Our Own?
Do we continue to quietly complain as one of the 10 percent who thinks that President Obama is not liberal enough or do we get out there and confront the remaining 90 percent, and try to spread and advocate liberal ideals?

If the American public does not start embracing liberal policies, how are we going to pass something like comprehensive health care reform?
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neobeetle Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:11 AM
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26. Too liberal my ass....
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:15 AM
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28. What I find interesting...
is how there are few responses that suggest a solution to the problem. Seems all we can do is deny there is one, the poll is bogus@@!!!
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 10:27 AM
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47. The solution to the problem is for Obama to move to the right...
Move to the right until the percentages are evenly balanced.

That would put him about two steps to the right of Newt Gingrich..

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:16 AM
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33. Repeat something often enough, and people buy it
Sad, but true.

I always respond "I wish!" when someone tells me what a liberal Obama is.

From where I'm sitting, that's just about as center as you get.

I think the Bush years have also jerked the impression of "center" far, far to the right.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:17 AM
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35. We live in a nation of whackjobs...
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:33 AM
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37. Completely unsurprising
McCain voters still don't like him, and about a fifth of the people who voted for him wish he'd be more aggressive. I don't see why this is news.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:34 AM
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38. Polls can say anything you want them to say
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:34 AM
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39. The first thing to do in all polls is lop 30% off the detractors
Because that is the level of "Bush's base". These folks would consider Obama "too liberal' even if he nuked the entire middle east, eliminated taxes for the rich and turned SS over to wall street. It doesn't matter to them, Obama is a democrat and thus "too liberal".

The bigger issue for democrats is that we don't seem to have a corresponding push from the left side. If this poll had "40% say not liberal enough" I think Obama would take notice. As it is, he isn't getting enough pushback from us on the left.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:38 AM
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42. What's most hilarious/frustrating is that LIBERAL POLICIES are
supported by OVERWHELMING MAJORITIES of Americans, when presented in terms of actual policy itself, and separate from any political party affiliation!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:41 AM
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44. Same thing about healthcare reform
People love the individual ideas but they hate the strawman "healthcare reform" that the GOP has successfully spewed out there to the lemmings.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 09:39 AM
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43. Forty-six percent
This is the same fraction of the electorate that voted for McCain. With smart PR, I would hope to see some of them come around, but for a long time, slightly less than half the US population have been Republicans who consider nearly any Democrat to be too liberal.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 10:15 AM
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46. So? They are products of the American media, not reality.
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