Who is the most progressive Democrat big business would let win the White House?

[yurbud]

Without killing their candidacy by ignoring them, ridiculing them, or just literally killing them?

[JDPriestly]

1. Hillary wins hands down, but she doesn't represent the interests of the ordinary folks.

[joshcryer]

6. I quite like her female wage hike thingy... forgot what it's called.

And I don't think any other candidates would be as serious about such reforms.

[MADem]

2. Depends on who can be co-opted, really... NT

[polichick]

3. Great question!

I guess that's pretty much what it boils down to. It was depressing to watch the debate coverage and listen to the talking heads ridiculing Kucinich. As far as they were concerned, he was nothing more than "comic relief." They'll annihilate anyone who shakes up the status quo too much - just like they did Dean.

[yurbud]

4. Dean was lucky he got out of it alive. If he had gotten farther into the primaries...

they probably would have used more extreme measures.

[polichick]

8. Too true...

I guess his current job is meant to be a pacifier, but grassroots Dems will always be grateful for the changes he made to the game. The tactics of Dean and MoveOn made Obama's success possible ~ and for the big machine Dems that's probably scary as hell about now!

[yurbud]

13. he might have broken the ice for the kind of real democracy they're getting in S. America

right now.

[tech3149]

5. If any progressive were to be supported by corporaate America

it would have to be Edwards. Anyone more progressive has already taken a stand that would undercut the rape and pillage that corporate America has become so used to.

[jpgray]

7. I voted Edwards, but his Senate term doesn't give much evidence of that

[leftofthedial]

9. Clinton

and you need to put "progressive" in quotations.

[yurbud]

15. ha! for her, yes.

[Zensea]

10. Given your premise, why do you even bother?

... candidate big business will let win?
If you think things are that much under the control of big business, what's the point of elections?
Why even bother discussing anything?
Waiting for the revolution?

[elocs]

12. There may be more to this than most of us would care to believe.

There was a call in talk show on the other night (On Point?) that was about the big time fund traders who deal in millions and millions of dollars and are very powerful and their wealth is to the point that their wives farm out their pregnancies (find surrogates) so they don't have to miss any parties or get stretch marks. One of the ex wives called in to say that their power is such that they pick the presidential candidates that they want to run so whichever candidate wins, they win. Tin foil hats? I dunno.

[yurbud]

14. no. in the past, big business would let tolerably people-friendly candidates through the pipe

and often that saying about what's good for business is good for America WAS true.

With the current form of globalization, our interests and theirs don't overlap nearly as much, and it is more obvious that they are keeping a thumb on the scale, as they have with Bush.

The other thing is their "insurance policy" in the Democratic party, the DLC.

I like elections and I vote, but it doesn't help anything if you are all polyanna about it and don't notice that your vote is going into a shredder, or your choice candidates was filtered by someone else who doesn't have your best interests at heart.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. The one most willing to accept their bribes..er, "campaign contributions."

[yurbud]

19. I wonder if they don't have a private meeting where they order them to step on a puppy's head

or strangle a baby just to make sure they are absolutely, blindly obedient.

[ToeBot]

16. None, there wont be a progressive on the Democratic ticket,

Most of those named above aren't progressive at all. What's more, the only function of Progressives in the primaries are to keep the Liberals from defecting. If a Progressive actually had a chance to win the primaries, they don't run. I can't say why they don't, but I would really like to know the reason. Maybe someday Russ Feingold will write a tell all book and I'll have my answers.

[yurbud]

17. I don't think it's a mystery. Howard Dean in other times would be considered a moderate but

he was only business FRIENDLY not business OWNED, and that was enough to make him a threat.

The greater the chance of someone being widely popular, the earlier in the process they will be taken down.

[yurbud]

18. now I can see why Karl Rove is focusing on Hillary