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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:06 PM
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Ric Llewellyn: I am against abortion because I am for women
Four things drove me to this topic: We recently observed the anniversary of the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision, teen birth statistics for Kern County just came out, a couple people I know are anti-abortion activists and I have four daughters.

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The progressive notion of women's rights serves to affirm that women do have a place in our society as sexual objects and then proposes to mitigate the impacts by providing contraception and abortion. Instead of training young girls to perpetuate that reckless idea, we need to abandon the paradigm as uninspired and contemptible.

How do we help our girls? Stop validating demeaning sexual roles for women among our youth. Stop making women comfortable with the social consequences of those roles by offering them relief that does not address the elemental assault on their value as people. And teach the boys to man up and respect our daughters.

Our failures and the carnage that has resulted from Roe v. Wade have also yielded an active anti-abortion movement. We have the opportunity to help and encourage pro-life advocacy and to take a different approach to women's rights for the next generation.

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-- Ric Llewellyn is one of four conservative community columnists whose work appears here every Saturday. These are the opinions of Llewellyn, not necessarily The Californian's. You can send e-mail to him at rllewellyn@bakersfield.com.

http://www.bakersfield.com/news/columnist/llewellyn/x379808763/RIC-LLEWELLYN-I-am-against-abortion-because-I-am-for-women

He was kind enough to include his email, let him know what you think.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:09 PM
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1. Ric don't know nothin' 'bour birthin' no babies.
Always a dude...it's almost enough to ashame me for having a penis.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:12 PM
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2. Maybe Ric can support women's comprehensive health care which includes funding for contraception?
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 03:12 PM by MrScorpio
But, I'm not holding my breath
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:33 PM
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7. No, contraception mitigates theimpact of women as sexual objects. That's what he's saying.
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 03:34 PM by sinkingfeeling
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:17 PM
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3. What a bunch of crap
Women are sexual. Denying that denies their very humanity. It takes us back to the Victorian age or worse.

Respect certainly ought to be taught - to all of our children, regardless of gender. That includes respect for their own sexuality and the consequences - physical AND emotional of sexual activity.

Women's value as people is not assaulted when their sexuality is recognized, but only when that is ALL that is recognized. And attempting to de-sexualize women only highlights that aspect, reducing women to delicate flowers who cannot be allowed to muddy themselves in the waters of normal human relationships, work... power.

And make no mistake - however they try to wrap it up, those who do not believe that women have the right to make their own decisions about their own bodies are threatened by and attacking their power.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:19 PM
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4. Well, this is certainly better than the "I'm pro-abortion, not pro-choice" wierdos we have here.
I am pro-choice, btw, because I believe that women have a right to do what they want with their bodies (EVEN IF THE FETUS IS A PERSON.)
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:20 PM
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5. There is nothing progressive
in the notion that woman have a place as sexual objects in our society. This is totally antithetical to what women's rights and the progressive movement are all about. One of the main goals in my opinion of the progressive movement and the women's rights movement is to "stop validating demeaning and sexual roles for our women."

Of course women must be valued as people, but this involves much more than just spouting some anti-choice rhetoric. Does Llewellen really believe that banning abortion will solve the serious issues that face women and families every day?

That attitude is what I would deam as uninspired and comtemptible.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:21 PM
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6. Crock O Shit
I bet he's REALLY for women who impregnated by rape.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 03:41 PM
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8. Yardbirds like this guy always use the term abortion rather...
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 03:41 PM by hayu_lol
than choice. It is the choice that is important. They never want to discuss choice and they discard the need for safe and healthful control of family size by women.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 04:02 PM
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9. This is such pathetic bullshit. If only all unintended pregnancies could be
avoided by changing "demeaning sexual roles" in our society. WTF? Two totally separate issues.


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