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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:47 AM
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Palin admits that she did, in fact, go to Canada to get their "bad Marxist death panely" health care
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin -- who has gone to great lengths to hype the supposed dangers of a big government takeover of American health care -- admitted over the weekend that she used to get her treatment in Canada's single-payer system.

"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada," Palin said in her first Canadian appearance since stepping down as governor of Alaska. "And I think now, isn't that ironic?"

The irony, one guesses, is that Palin now views Canada's health care system as revolting: with its government-run administration and 'death-panel'-like rationing.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20100308/cm_huffpost/490080
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:00 AM
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1. Too bad Canada's health care system has no cure for stupid nt
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:11 AM
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5. or even notice that Palin smells like seal meat!
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:03 AM
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2. She is such an idiot.
How did she ever even get to be governor. Blows my mind. And it scares the crap out of me.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:06 AM
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3. For handy reference...
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:09 AM
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4. She owns up to being a hustler.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:13 AM
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6. When her family did use Canadian Health Care it was not Government paid as it is now.
They did not receive Government run Health Care. The reason people from Skagway would go to Whitehorse for medical care was not for free care but because it was the only real care available to them. Whitehorse is only a couple of hours away from Skagway by train and at that time the only way to get to any other Hospital was by air, and that is always iffy during the winter. I don't like Palin or approve of anything she says or does but the truth is not partisan..
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:25 AM
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7. Well, she certainly didn't do the event she was speaking at any
favours, after stating our system should be dismantled to represent a more U.S. type, how evil it is, blah, blah, blah. The event after all was co-sponsored by the Fraser Institute - well-known for pushing hard for privatization and all the rest of that conservative 'us rich oil bast*ds have got ours, sucks to be you type' of thing. You'd think she'd have used that brain (or maybe everything above the shoulders is all bumpit ...... who knows???) and kept her mouth shut. It just seems such a simple thing to do.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:45 AM
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9. I thought the Canadian national system began in 1966 and Palin was born in 1964.
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 11:50 AM by Walk away
How do you know they weren't scamming the system? Did you see the bill?
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:50 AM
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10. I don't know anything other than what a lot of Alaskans do and have done.
I thought their Public Option system began in 1972, but either way her folks left Skagway when she was very young..People from Skagway have always used the medical services in Whitehorse, and they are not free. They are very much lower than similar services in the USA but they are not free, at least for Alaskans. Many people go to Whitehorse for Dental work and save thousands but they still pay quite a bit.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:55 AM
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12. This is from Wikipedia but the same facts can be found on any site.
"Medical Care Act
The Saskatchewan program proved a success and the federal government of Lester B. Pearson, pressured by the New Democratic Party (NDP) who held the balance of power, introduced the Medical Care Act in 1966 that extended the HIDS Act cost-sharing to allow each province to establish a universal health care plan"

Palin was two years old when this happened so unless she was some kind of savant, she certainly would be in Canada receiving health care under a government system and not a private one.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:55 AM
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13. This is from Wikipedia but the same facts can be found on any site.
"Medical Care Act
The Saskatchewan program proved a success and the federal government of Lester B. Pearson, pressured by the New Democratic Party (NDP) who held the balance of power, introduced the Medical Care Act in 1966 that extended the HIDS Act cost-sharing to allow each province to establish a universal health care plan"

Palin was two years old when this happened so unless she was some kind of savant, she certainly would be in Canada receiving health care under a government system and not a private one.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:03 PM
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15. Canada began their universal gvmt. health care in '66.
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 12:12 PM by Hassin Bin Sober
Or sooner.


Without a doubt, they at least BENEFITED from a government subsidized program that allows a doctor to practice in such a remote area.


Whether the Palins actually PAID for their doctor visits is the question - and I wouldn't put it past that grifter family to filch some free care. From what I've read, cross border fraud was rampant until photo ID cards were recently introduced.

I suppose She can't grasp the concept of why there was no medical care in her FREE MARKET run remote/rural system. And why she was able to travel to another town and receive care because the doctor was, at the very least, subsidized so he could practice in such a remote location.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada#20th_century


The beginning of coverage
It was not until 1946 that the first Canadian province introduced near universal health coverage. Saskatchewan had long suffered a shortage of doctors, leading to the creation of municipal doctor programs in the early twentieth century in which a town would subsidize a doctor to practice there. Soon after, groups of communities joined to open union hospitals under a similar model. There had thus been a long history of government involvement in Saskatchewan health care, and a significant section of it was already controlled and paid for by the government. In 1946, Tommy Douglas' Co-operative Commonwealth Federation government in Saskatchewan passed the Saskatchewan Hospitalization Act, which guaranteed free hospital care for much of the population. Douglas had hoped to provide universal health care, but the province did not have the money.

In 1950, Alberta created a program similar to Saskatchewan's. Alberta, however, created Medical Services (Alberta) Incorporated (MS(A)I) in 1948 to provide prepaid health services. This scheme eventually provided medical coverage to over 90% of the population.<30>

In 1957, the federal government passed the Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act to fund 50% of the cost of such programs for any provincial government that adopted them. The HIDS Act outlined five conditions: public administration, comprehensiveness, universality, portability, and accessibility. These remain the pillars of the Canada Health Act.

By 1961, all ten provinces had agreed to start HIDS Act programs. In Saskatchewan, the act meant that half of their current program would now be paid for by the federal government. Premier Woodrow Lloyd decided to use this freed money to extend the health coverage to also include physicians. Despite the sharp disagreement of the Saskatchewan College of Physicians and Surgeons, Lloyd introduced the law in 1962 after defeating the Saskatchewan Doctors' Strike in July.

Medical Care Act
The Saskatchewan program proved a success and the federal government of Lester B. Pearson, pressured by the New Democratic Party (NDP) who held the balance of power, introduced the Medical Care Act in 1966 that extended the HIDS Act cost-sharing to allow each province to establish a universal health care plan. It also set up the Medicare system. In 1984, the Canada Health Act was passed, which prohibited user fees and extra billing by doctors. In 1999, the prime minister and most premiers reaffirmed in the Social Union Framework Agreement that they are committed to health care that has "comprehensiveness, universality, portability, public administration and accessibility."<31>
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:43 AM
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8. Apparently she told the same story of her mother rushing her brother...
to the hospital with a burned foot before. The last time she told it they had to rush him to a hospital in Juno. Of course that story was told during a rally to add more ferries to Juno and it was her way to illustrate why more were needed.

I think we should check on her parents and why the same child was always burning his foot. Do they have Child Protective Services in Alaska?
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:53 AM
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11. As far as rushing goes, during the sixties ferry service to Skagway
was twice a week..Today it is daily, since we have a "fast ferry" system now. The fast ferry travels at thirty five knots and Haines is sixty miles away and Skagway is seventy five miles away from Juneau.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:58 AM
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14. My point was that she lied at least once about the incident.
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 11:58 AM by Walk away
Although, I'm sure people who ride on the ferry care how fast it goes.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:33 PM
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16. so is she saying that the US system doesn't work or she
learned theft from her parents?
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