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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:11 AM
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Colorado Catholic School Boots Student With Lesbian Mothers
Priest Defends Decision, Saying It's for the Good of the Child, Parents

A Colorado Catholic school's decision to deny enrollment to a young child with lesbian mothers has divided the religious community with some questioning whether a preschooler should be used to make a political statement.

The child, currently a preschool student at the Sacred Heart of Jesus school in Boulder, would be allowed to finish out the school year, but would not be readmitted for kindergarten in the fall.

The move came after the parents' sexual orientation drew the attention of the parish priest, the Rev. Bill Breslin, and the Denver archdiocese.

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"It is not about punishing the child for the sins of his or her parents," he wrote. " It is simply that the lesbian couple is saying that their relationship is a good one that should be accepted by everyone; and the Church cannot agree to that."

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/colorado-catholic-school-kicks-student-lesbian-mothers/story?id=10043528

And when I thought the Roman Catholic Church could NOT be any more fucked up, this is in the news.

The article goes on to say that some of the teachers and other members of the community did not agree with the decision and are protesting at the school.

WTF is next...a child whose parents get a divorce...that child is expelled ,too?

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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:17 AM
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1. The catholic church worsens by the minute...
"It's not about punishing the child for the sins of the parents..."

But that's exactly what they're doing. This child is being punished and is
being barred from the school.

How in the world is a child attending preschool--a sign that the catholic church is
"accepting" this lesbian coupon--as this priest suggests?

This is intentional, cruel treatment of an innocent child--and we all know how experienced this
revolting institution is at doing that.

Sickening.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:21 AM
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2. My thoughts exactly...
...the child IS being punished. What the hell control does that child have over the sexual orientation of his/her parent? A pre-schooler probably has less than a zero clue as to what this is...and he/she is forced to change schools and leave friends behind? Sick, really sick.

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StarlightGold Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:20 PM
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25. Exactly...
These people (RCC) are nothing but vicious bullies using their religion to justify mistreating people. Of course the kid is being punished because of his parents...there's no way around it. Then they try to appear all innocent, saying "Oh, we don't mean anything by it, but we HAVE to put our religion ahead of treating people properly. What else could we do?"

That institution is so vile, I don't see how anyone can defend it...
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:28 AM
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3. How do Catholics reconcile the fact that the only gay folks permitted in their churches...
are the leaders? Even if I were the best Catholic in the world, the recent happenings within the church would force me to take another look and question my alliance.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:34 AM
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6. Reconcile???
They simply LIE that it never happened and then hide the evidence.

JMHO
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:20 PM
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12. So gays are pedophiles?
Nice.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:30 PM
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14. No....
...that is NOT what I meant at all. Sorry that you needed to jump to the wrong conclusion.

What was meant is that they deny the CHILD ABUSE and actively hide it. IMO, that has less than nothing to do with sexual orientation.

Sheesh...:eyes:

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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:50 PM
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20. Yeah, but YOU made the jump
the post you replied to just said that the top officials of the church are gay (which I have problems with as explain in another post). That post said NOTHING about pedophiles. YOU made the jump to the pedophiles case. If you are not equating gays with pedophiles, I have no idea how my made that jump.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:43 PM
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19. No, there are pedophiles and there are gays - and BOTH populations
are denied by the church. Difference is, its the gays that embarrass them.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:18 PM
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11. I have a couple problems with that.
1. nice broad brush assumption that all priests are gay. I know many priests. Some are gay. Most are not.

2. Even if you are correct and closet gays turn to the priesthood as their only avenue to "hide" in a religion that doesn't accept them, how nice of you to bash them for that.

3. Seems to me the implication here is that all priests are pedophiles and you are connecting pedophiles with being gay which, factually, is incorrect.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 05:28 PM
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29. Excuse me but I never said a word about Pedophiles so if you associate the two
I can't help you. I didn't say that all priest were gay. You really do twist things. What do you mean, 'If closet gays turn to priesthood?' I think that gay people are priests as we have read and heard about in the news, even quite recently at the Vatican, if I am not mistaken. I am sorry that you have to twist words. I don't care if priests are gay but don't like them going around telling me I can't be gay or divorced or use birth control or if I am gay that my kid can't go to Catholic church!

Now that you mention it, I will add that I feel strongly that people everywhere, in any walk of life should report the abuse of children as quickly as possible. This include clergy, priest, popes what have you.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:38 AM
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9. Don't they all?
(All right, all right, Unitarians and Buddhists may be exceptions.)
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:30 AM
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4. More non Christ-like xians - how do we as a species/civilization keep spawning these mouth breathers
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 11:32 AM by Echo In Light
... is beyond me
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:32 AM
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5. IMO...
...they are indoctrinated from birth. Ever talk to a "good" Catholic? LIke talking to a dittohead.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:35 AM
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7. I was raised Catholic until, as G.Carlin, also Catholic, said, "I reached the age of reason."
My parents weren't rigid in their belief, however. Usually defended underdogs.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:43 AM
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10. IMO, you are lucky that you did not get the indoctrination and had...
...reasonable parents...and finally escaped! :hi:

A few years ago, one of these idiots had a relative of mine baptised as Catholic on his death bed...and the person who was baptised literally hated the Catholic church. The reasoning by the Catholic asshole was she did not want him to go to hell and if one was not a Catholic...yada, yada...

I was livid to say the least!

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:39 PM
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17. I was twelve when I stopped attending services. The getting-away-from-it began with....
... me wanting to go on my own, as I was an outdoors kid, always on my bike, and the church was just three blocks away, and so I was able to convince my folks that I'd actually go (haha).

So for a long time I'd swing by, step in through the back and grab a the weekly church news-letter, only to whip it out later, if needed, as my proof of purchase lol ... well, my father was no dummy, and knew what I was up to. They realized I wasn't into it and didn't force it beyond that point. The number of times I've entered a church since those young yrs - weddings and funerals - I can count on my fingers.

"I'm glad to see people leaving the church and finding god" ~ Lenny Bruce


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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:21 PM
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13. I know plenty of good catholics
that are wonderful people that would do anything for me. Might want to put the broad brush away and paint a little more directed portrait.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:31 PM
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15. The only ones I know are totally fucked up.
Glad you know some who are not.

Congrats...:eyes:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:50 PM
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21. Not all Catholics are fucked up...
...there are some nice Catholics.

However, the most fucked up people I have ever met in my life
are Catholic.

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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:53 PM
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22. Enough with the eyeroll already
You made a broad brush attack that all catholics are fucked up. I call you on that rather bigoted statement and somehow I'm the one worthy of an eye roll?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:03 PM
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23. Enough with the personal attacks already...
...welcome to my IGNORE list...<click> In other words, go talk to yourself.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:41 PM
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28. I feel really sad about that. n/t
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:37 AM
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8. Naturally, because God curses the sinner to n-th generation. nt
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:31 PM
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16. If its okay for the Catholic church to blame the child for the parents
behavior, it is okay to declare that everyone in the catholic church is a pedophile including the pope and all his cardinals.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:40 PM
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18. "It is simply that the lesbian couple is saying that their relationship is a good one that should
be accepted by everyone; and the Church cannot agree to that."

And how, exactly, is that NOT punishing the child for the sins of the parents?

IMO, for what it's worth, the child will be better off elsewhere.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:05 PM
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24. Yeah, I do agree....
...the child would be better off away from that kind of bigotry.

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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:28 PM
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26. why not just boycott the Catholic church, period? ro
this is bs...
You don't have to stop believing if you are a believer, but you can vote with your feet if you don't like the politics of the church. I'm not a church-goer, but if I was Catholic I'd just stop going and pray on my own. Stop giving them money as well.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 05:32 PM
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30. The Catholic church effects all of our lives whether we are Catholic or not.
Do you remember John Paul's funeral and all of the world heads gathered there. Remember * giving Pickles a big mouth kiss in the middle of the service. Pickles in her sunglasses when not another soul had sunglasses on. Weird totally weird and our country and our live are effected by the Pope, believe it our not. Take notice that Obama has to appear before his highness as well. WTF?
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:30 PM
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27. The Catholic Church is determined to recreate the dark ages
In a statement today, the Pope said "Fuck you guys, the 1500's kicked ass!"
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