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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 05:48 PM
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Capitalism: A Love Story - Now Available At Wal-Mart
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mikes-letter/sell-buy-rebel-capitalism-love-story-out-today-dvd-and-what-wal-mart

Well, starting today, you can now OWN your very own DVD (or Blu-ray) copy of my latest action/romance/horror film, "Capitalism: A Love Story" -- and watch it in the comfort of your soon-to-be-foreclosed home! Get it cheap at Amazon, rent or stream it fast at Netflix, or go down to the local Wal-Mart that put your locally-owned mom & pop video store outta business and pick it up for pennies on the dollar. See! Something for everyone!

The fact that Wal-Mart is carrying this movie -- a movie that specifically exposes Wal-Mart's past practice of taking out secret "dead peasant" life insurance policies on its employees and naming itself as the lone beneficiary should the employee meet an "untimely" early death -- well, my friends, need you any further proof that Corporate America is so secure in its position as the ruler of our country, so sure of its infallible power that, yes, they can even sell a movie that attacks them because it poses absolutely no threat to them?

A sane person would think that Wal-Mart would never carry "Capitalism: A Love Story" because it's simply not in their best interests to inform their customers of their shady past. After all, many Wal-Mart stores wouldn't carry "Bowling for Columbine" back in 2003. That was *Kmart* I went after (for selling the ammo to the Columbine killers)! But I guess that was too Mart-y close for Wal-Mart -- so no DVDs were allowed of that film on the shelves of some of the world's biggest retail chain's stores (the movie studio estimated that cost them $2.5 million in sales).

But seven years later, it's a new day in America. The corporate coup is complete. Corporations like Wal-Mart now call all the shots, write all the laws, pay off almost all the congressmen and essentially (along with the other Fortune 500 companies and Wall Street) rule the nation. They've helped to eliminate consumer choice and the free market while convincing you they are all for "free enterprise" and the "U.S.A."

More importantly, they've snuffed out any criticism or opposition. They've even co-opted liberals, like the people who made the wonderful documentary, "Food, Inc." The last half-hour of this movie includes -- I kid you not -- an homage to Wal-Mart as the filmmakers swoon over this kinder, gentler company that has decided to -- bless them! -- put an organic food counter in their stores! Thank you, Wal-Mart! Kumbaya! (And hey, granolaheads, don't forget to flash a smile on the way out of the store at the "greeter" who can't afford to see a doctor.)

Yes, Wal-Mart, by selling "Capitalism," is saying to me: "Go ahead Mike and expose us all you want! Hahahhaha! We're so convinced that the public has either been dumbed down or made numb enough to not give a lick about whatever it is you're saying about us and capitalism. We can sell a million of these and it won't make a damn bit of difference about our ability to rule the world. So knock yourself out, big guy! Hehehehehehe. Go ahead and put your little movie on our shelves. It will never start a revolution."

Or so they think...
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 05:50 PM
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1. "it's simply not in their best interests to inform their customers of their shady past"
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 05:51 PM by Oregone
Their interests are profits. If they make more from selling the movie than they lose from people who no longer shop there, they win.


That movie was much more about the banking industry and the financial meltdown anyway
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 05:51 PM
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2. A great number of people on this board don't shop @ Wal Mart
because of it's practices so we won't be buying it there.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 05:51 PM
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3. I'll order mine at Barnes and Noble
Thanks
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:10 PM
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9. I'll get mine from PirateBay
Love ya Mike.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:02 PM
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4. I hope the bastards didn't censor it.
They have been known to do that to movies. CD artwork too.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:21 PM
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5. Just ordered my copy at midnight from BN. Can't WAIT to see this
as we missed it in the theaters.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 06:29 PM
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6. RE: Your headline.
:rofl: K&R
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:35 AM
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7. .
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:02 PM
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8. Absolutely amazing
The WalMart in my town ONLY has right wing material. They have all the wing nut books, Coulter, Hannity, Savage, etc. and not a single book by anyone that could even remotely be seen as Liberal..So this really amazes me that they would allow a Michael Moore movie in their store..
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:11 PM
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10. k/r
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:17 PM
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11. Capitalism is evil!
Screams Moore, While simultaniously screaming BUY MY DVD, BUY MY DVD, PRICED COMPETITIVLEY, PRODUCED WITH BORDERLINE SLAVE LABOR.

Moore is a Hypocrite of unimaginable cognitave dissonence.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:19 PM
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13. Bull. Shit.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:27 PM
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14. wow - how wrong can one person be
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:33 PM
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15. Obviously you have never seen any of his films
"Sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 01:05 PM
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16. I've watched many of his films
Lots of Hyperbole and fear mongering.

The man is wealthy beyond measure via his exploitation of capitalism, he's a hypocrite.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:11 PM
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17. Seven is a good name for you. You sound like a borg drone...
repeating talking points all of us have heard somewhere else, and dismissed them long ago as BS.
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:17 PM
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18. Sounds to me like you're the brainwashed drone
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 02:17 PM by SsevenN
I look at all sides of the issue, I've watched his documentarys, and I've read critiques of them as well. There's boatloads of factually supported data that proves him not only to be a fear mongerer, but also a lying hypocrite.

If YOU don't want to open your eyes, and take in all sources of information, that's fine with me. I'm willing to walk off the beaten path, and actually form an opinion based on the data presented. Rather than base my opinion on whether he agrees with me or not. That's what makes someone a drone.

If you are too afraid to truley delve into the issue, and explore the realities behind his smoke in mirrors, that's your call.

Silly drones, fear mongering is for the rethugs!
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:40 PM
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19. Adding to my previous post...
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 02:43 PM by SsevenN
Lying about his hometown.

Taking quotes and video out of context, and inserting them into his fabricated context.

Cutting and pasting quotes and video together, like some kind of political DJ, to re-enforce his fabricated outrage.

Outright refusing open and honest debate.

Shock value interviews, that belong on Glen Becks show, not in a documentary.

And, once confronted with evidence of his pseudo-malfeasance, denying and deflecting with the skill of a seasoned rethug.

Simply put, while I agree with him about lots of stuff, the ends don't justify the means. And endorsing and supporting this kind of flagrant misrepresentation of reality, you are damaging the liberal position as a whole.

But yeah, I must be a "Borg Drone" because I take issue with this type of dishonestly.

El Oh Fucking El people.



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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:49 PM
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22. So he's an asshole for taking lessons from the Republicans the Right Wing
The religious loonies and Fox news and using those lessons to attack the people who use those same lessons to attack us makes him an asshole?

LMAO.. yeah you'll get far on this board with that kind of clueless shit.

Let me ask you this. Was he wrong about Iraq? Nope, illegal war, no WMD's waste of money and lives. But don't that that stop ya.

Was he wrong about GM? Nope, they are sinking fast after fucking over their employees and making shoddy cars. But don't let that stop ya.

Was he wrong about Gun Control? Nope.. now we have armed people in Starbucks. but don't let that stop ya.

Funny, he may twist things to show stuff in the light he wants people to see it in but so does everyone else on the planet.

So you got anything else except those lame wingnut talking points? Can you prove Michael Moore was WRONG?

Yeah I thought so.
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:20 PM
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24. Did you miss the part
Where I said I agree with him on many issues?

But I have a BIG FUCKING problem with "The ends justify the means" stratagey? Because I'm not sure what you are trying to assert here.
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:39 PM
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28. Let me ask a more direct question, two part.
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 03:41 PM by SsevenN
Are the folks here at DU supportive of the strategy and tactics listed above (post 19), when used by michael moore?

If a rethug "documentary" had used the same techniques, and been just as thoroughly exposed as moore, would you condemn said rethug documentary?

Think before you answer.

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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:58 PM
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31. No, but that isn't the question.
We don't know of the "strategy and tactics listed above (post 19), when used by michael moore?" ... only that you are alleging it without any proof.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:05 PM
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32. How do you feel about James O'Keefe?
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:06 PM
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35. Seven Bucks says SsevenN thinks he's a journalistic genius.
:popcorn:
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:46 PM
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41. I'm not a Journalist in...
Any sense of the word. Just a guy who enjoys intellectually honest debate.

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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:15 PM
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37. He's a
Scumbag fear-mongerer just like Moore and Beck.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:49 PM
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21. Then put up or shut up!
Provide links to these "Boatloads of factually supported data", or you have nothing.

I don't do "trust me" with anybody, much less internet posters.

"I look at all sides of the issue"... And I've never heard right wingers say that before.:eyes:
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:33 PM
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25. I'm not your personal army
But I'll give you a hint.

1) Go to google, type - Debunking Mich, that's all you have to do. Google will fill in the rest.

2) Then you can spend a few hours, sifting through the THOUSANDS of sources until you find one that passes muster with your source requirements.

If you can complete steps one and two, and still not take issue with this mans methodology for presenting his arguments, then I don't know what to tell you.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:39 PM
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27. Yuo are the one charging hypocrisy. It's your job to prove it.
Since you are trying to get me to do your work for you, I can only assume that you are too chickenshit to link from Fox News or World Nut Daily on this site.

Thanks for playing *cough* full of shit *cough*.
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:46 PM
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29. Right, because educating yourself...
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 04:44 PM by SsevenN
Would be too much leg work.

Admitting your unwillingness to do your own RESEARCH on the assertions you've based your position on is proof enough you would rather not learn, and instead sit in your little bubble of preconceived truths.

Enjoy remaining ignorant.

EDIT: But since I have a few extra minutes, I guess I could hot link a few sources..One second I'll be right back...

EDIT2:

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/dgifford/2009/10/20/michael-moores-audacious-lies/

http://www.chavezcode.com/2009/10/lies-of-michael-moore-about-hugo-chavez.html

http://www.moorewatch.com/index.php/weblog/f911/

http://www.google.com/search?q=debunking+michael+moore&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLL_en&tbs=bks:1&tbo=u&ei=kgeYS7LjFYj0sgPAqP3BAQ&sa=X&oi=book_group&ct=title&cad=bottom-3results&resnum=11&ved=0CCkQsAMwCg

http://www.mooreexposed.com/

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2007/07/06/2007-07-06_more_lies_from_moore.html

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLL_en&q=michael+moore+lies&oq=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=FQmYS9fJIZO2swPL9NzBAQ&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=11&ved=0CC0QqwQwCg#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvmQHo8I9TI

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Once again, I don't agree with the OPINIONS in some of these articles, but there is NO FUCKING DOUBT that Michael Moore uses deciet, trickery, and fear mongering to assert his opions. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE A FUCKING PRBLEM WITH. This guy is bad news for the left, in the same way the Beck is bad for the right. Hell these two assholes are different sides of THE SAME FUCKING COIN. Open your eyes, man.

I'm sure you'll just dismiss all those links as illegitamite, even if it's coming from the left, cognative dissonence is a powerful thing. But if you only read ONE paragraph, please read the one I've bolded below.


"I'd been holding off on seeing Michael Moore's new film, Sicko, because I am really more interested in the right-wing reaction to it than I am in the film itself. As the author of a book that harshly criticized Moore -- from a left-liberal point of view -- for his habit of loading up his films with deceptions delivered through half-truths, misleading edits, and broad conspiracy theories, I wasn't expecting that much from his latest."


Source below, and OH MY GOD IT'S THE HUFFINGTOPN POST? WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK IT?!?!?!?!!?!?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-larner/michael-moore-and-nationa_b_59479.html

I'm done, have fun living in a fantasy world of ignorance and blind devotion.








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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:55 PM
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30. Oh' I've done my research on Michael Moore, and found very little to gripe about.
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 03:55 PM by Touchdown
Every time he makes a movie, the ankle biters come out of the woodwork, charging lies, propaganda, deceptive editing, misleading statistics and a host of other allegations.

One by one, they all fell as hollow charges when his films were checked out with the actual facts.

You are just following in others footsteps now.

I know your full of shit, because I've done actual research. I also know your full of shit because your projecting your ignorance and laziness onto me, when it is YOU, and nobody else making these allegations in this thread.

You make the charge, you back it up.
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:12 PM
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36. I threw in some links, look up. NT
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:23 PM
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39. If you'd actually done ANY research
into the journalistic approach of Moore's, you would almost IMMEDIATLEY know his techniques have been discredited and his flippant fear mongering exposed.

Sure, but you did "research" What research was that? Watching another Mike Moore film? Lulz..........
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:46 PM
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42. He is a film maker, not a journalist.
He never claimed to be one. Lulz on you. All documentary makers have a point of view.

And... I did more research than you,because I know the difference between a film maker and a journalist.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:06 PM
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34. sounds like you got nothin'
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:18 PM
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38. Links above
Check them out, that was 3 minutes worth of digging around. Needless to say, if the Huffington Post can find issues with one of their own, there's probably a legitimate reason.
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:28 PM
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40. AND THE CROWD GOES....
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 04:41 PM by SsevenN
Silent!

Thanks for playing, I hope I've opened your mind up to a bit "Moore" (wink wink) healthy skepticism.

EDIT: Aww what the hell, one more left wing source to re-enforce my factually-backed assertions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17000-2004Jun30.html

"What's most fascinating about the Michael Moore coverage is that while conservatives are shredding his film, even many liberals say that it's a heavy-handed piece of propaganda filled with exaggerations, if not outright falsehoods."

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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:50 PM
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43. Howard Fucking Kurtz? You must be stoned.
:rofl:

Yeah, get journalisms biggest apologist for the rw slant in media to criticize Michael Moore... and you even bolded his "and some people say" get out of jail free card as if it's a given.

You're just too much.:rofl:
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #29
44. Response to edit.
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 04:56 PM by Touchdown
All but huffpost are right wing rags who have been caught in lies of their own... many times, and are just as guilty of the crimes that you accuse Moore of.

Still not convinced there, Bud.

And... Breitbart? The man who edited the Acorn Pimp videos and pushed them on the public as truth... yes, the very guy you call a scumbag a few posts down you link to as "proof".:rofl:

You're not very good at this, are you?
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:07 PM
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45. So you can't refute my points?
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 05:36 PM by SsevenN
Got it, thanks for playing.

EDIT: Thanks for engaging me, I only wish I was able shift your opinion. You don't have to hate the guy, I just wanted to reveal the inconsistencies and fallacies that exist in his documentaries.

Take care, I've got to go convince this ****ing Neocon that he's nothing more than a Kool-aid drinking fascist because of his non-sequitar opinion on National Defense.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:38 PM
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46. You've made no points to refute
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 05:38 PM by Touchdown
and the help you enlisted is from some of the most dishonest dregs in partisan journalism and hackery. Can't help you validate yourself. You might seek out a girl instead.
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:53 PM
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47. The data presented
Comes from people I disagree with, therefor it's not legitimate data, got it.

It's truly funny how similar Liberals and Rethugs are.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:56 PM
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48. I know what else is truly funny.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:47 PM
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20. But
he has a nice gun, though.:eyes:
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SsevenN Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:35 PM
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26. And you have a nice pot leaf
What's your point?
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:18 PM
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12. Life here is getting to be a bad acid trip
:silly:
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:55 PM
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23. How ironically appropriate
Talk about your inconvenient truths!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:05 PM
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33. Watched it last night. What a great movie it is.
One of Mike's best. I am so glad he makes the movies he makes.

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