arbusto_baboso
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Tue Mar-30-10 11:50 AM
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Would conservativism even exist without "enemies"? |
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It's my opinion that ultra-conservatives need some kind of "enemy" upon which to place all blame. Historically, that list has included communists, socialists, trade unions, liberals, gays, Jews, gypsies, American Indians, African Americans.... <deep breath> well, you name it.
Would - COULD - conservative "thought" even exist without an enemies list? Not on your life.
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gmoney
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Tue Mar-30-10 11:52 AM
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1. Their enemies are change and progress |
eppur_se_muova
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Tue Mar-30-10 12:36 PM
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14. No, that's fundamentalism ... oh, no, wait ... |
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OK, I guess that's true of both of them. :)
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Tue Mar-30-10 11:52 AM
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2. That's the basis for conservatism. Slowing progress towards equality for those "uppity minorities" |
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Edited on Tue Mar-30-10 11:52 AM by ck4829
Conservatism is about using political means to delay equality and progress.
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Tue Mar-30-10 11:56 AM
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4. Even that is just a strawman by which they get the right leaning masses to vote against their own |
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self interests. Our side just sells different boogeymen to acheive the same goals. The goal is to keep funneling the money to the top and make sure no one who is not at the top can get any of it.
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Echo In Light
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Tue Mar-30-10 11:53 AM
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3. No. Remove the need to hate & attack an 'enemy' & RW movements cease to be |
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Tue Mar-30-10 11:58 AM
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6. Wrong. They'll just invent an "enemy" to hate and attack. It's a psychosis. Read... |
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...John Dean's "Conservatives without Conscience."
NGU.
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Echo In Light
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Tue Mar-30-10 12:06 PM
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8. Since you're backing up what I wrote, how am I "wrong?" |
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Tue Mar-30-10 12:08 PM
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10. Because you can't "remove the need." It's a psychosis. Read the book. |
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Tue Mar-30-10 12:10 PM
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12. You're splitting hairs. My point stands. |
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Tue Mar-30-10 11:58 AM
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5. They create their own enemies, their self-sustaining n/t |
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Tue Mar-30-10 12:05 PM
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7. The #1 Conservative enemy is the govt, the #1 Progressive enemy is the (big) Corp. |
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Edited on Tue Mar-30-10 12:09 PM by andym
Fear of control by powerful forces is the common element.
Does the govt impose rules (laws) on us? True Do big corporations wield tremendous influence on our lives? True
The difference: But is the government really out to control us? Not true.
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Tue Mar-30-10 12:07 PM
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9. That's why the term for much right-wing thought is "reactionary." |
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Rightists "react against" the ideas, beliefs and actions of others. They are incapable of positive, constructive thought.
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Tue Mar-30-10 12:08 PM
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11. You know, I've often thought about the religious and political continuum of conservatism... |
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...and I have to say that I think people don't become bigoted because of religion, they see religion as a way to validate their bigotry. And this, in turn, allows them to make their bigotry a political opinion in the name of upholding their religion.
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Tue Mar-30-10 12:10 PM
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13. Repukes care about two things and two things only: |
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making you afraid of it, and telling you who's to blame for it.
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