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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:54 AM
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A Method to Republican "Madness" Must Read
Edited on Sat Apr-03-10 08:46 AM by samplegirl
By Robert Parry
March 31, 2010
Washington’s conventional wisdom for explaining the intensity of Republican obstructionism toward President Barack Obama breaks down one of two ways: either it’s a philosophical disagreement over the role of government or a desperate need to stay in line with a radicalized right-wing base.

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But there is another way to view the GOP political strategy, as neither principled nor reactive to the rantings of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the Tea Partiers. It is that the Republicans are following a playbook that has evolved over more than four decades, to regain power by sabotaging Democratic presidents.

In this analysis, the Republicans believe they can reclaim the lucrative levers of national authority by making the country as ungovernable as possible while a Democrat is in the White House, essentially holding governance hostage until they are restored to power. Then, the Democrats are expected to behave as a docile opposition “for the good of the country” (and usually do).

The “destroy Obama” game plan tracks most closely with Newt Gingrich’s strategy for undermining Bill Clinton 16 years ago. But today’s strategy also traces back to Richard Nixon’s sabotage of President Lyndon B. Johnson’s Vietnam peace talks in 1968 and Ronald Reagan’s October Surprise gambit against President Jimmy Carter’s Iran hostage negotiations in 1980.

In all four cases – covering the last four Democratic presidencies – the Republicans did not behave as a loyal opposition but rather as a single-minded political enemy that viewed the White House as its birthright and Democratic control of the Executive Branch as illegitimate.

During the first years of Clinton’s presidency, leading Republicans, such as Sen. Bob Dole, actually denounced President Clinton as a “pretender.” They noted that Clinton gained the White House with less than a majority of the popular vote (because of the third-party run of Ross Perot).

Rather than accept Clinton as a legitimate president, the Republicans unleashed their newly minted right-wing media machine (much of it having been assembled during the Reagan-Bush-41 years with the help of conservative foundations and right-wing media moguls).

Magazines, such as The American Spectator, and newspapers, like the Washington Times and the Wall Street Journal, spread ugly rumors about the Clintons, while radio talk show hosts, such as Limbaugh and G. Gordon Liddy, filled the airwaves with hours and hours of Clinton-bashing.

In Congress, House Republican firebrand Gingrich whipped his party into line against Clinton’s top legislative goals. For the first time, every Republican voted against the federal budget, which included tax increases to rein in the deficit that had surged to unprecedented levels under Reagan and George H.W. Bush (41).

Meanwhile, the escalating anti-Clinton media assault drew in the Washington Post and the New York Times, which were determined to prove they could be tougher on a Democrat than any Republican and thus to shed once and for all the “liberal media” label.

By 1994, the Whitewater “scandal” about an obscure Clinton real-estate investment had become front-page news and a Republican-controlled judicial panel had picked former Reagan-Bush-41 appointee Kenneth Starr to head up an aggressive investigation into the Clintons’ personal finances – and later into their private life.

Back on Capitol Hill, Gingrich's “revolutionaries” rallied – and railed – against Hillary Clinton’s ill-fated health-reform bill.

‘Black Helicopters’

Across the countryside, the harsh language in Congress and the ugly accusations from talk radio fed into a right-wing paranoia. Armed militia groups began forming to resist the threat of “one-world government” and its “black helicopters” arriving from the United Nations to strip away American liberties.

Every day, Americans were confronted with a level of disorder in their political system that they had not seen in decades – and President Clinton took most of the blame for the government disarray.

Having covered CIA destabilization campaigns in Third World countries, particularly Nicaragua, I was struck by the similarities. In the 1980s, the Reagan-Bush-41 administrations destroyed Nicaragua’s leftist Sandinista revolution by systematically making the country ungovernable via a combination of economic dislocations, political/media propaganda, and paramilitary activities.

Finally, in 1990, Nicaraguan voters – faced with a choice of electing the U.S.-financed candidate Violeta Chamorro or suffering a continued U.S. economic embargo and a resumption of attacks by U.S.-supported contra rebels – opted to accede to Washington’s desires and voted for Chamorro.

By the second year of the Clinton administration, it seemed something similar was occurring in the United States, in part, because the Reagan-Bush-41 administrations had left behind not only a capacity for “information warfare” in the Third World but a domestic version of that propaganda infrastructure.

Documentary evidence from Reagan’s presidential library now shows that the overseas and domestic propaganda machines were built simultaneously as Reagan’s CIA Director William Casey recruited conservative foundation executives like Richard Mellon Scaife to help finance these activities.

Casey also put a senior CIA propagandist, Walter Raymond Jr., into Reagan’s National Security Council to create an inter-agency propaganda bureaucracy and to oversee its operation.

Another major accomplishment of the Reagan administration was the creation of the National Endowment for Democracy, which on the surface was intended to finance pro-U.S. political/media entities around the globe.

But NED had another side. Since many of the NED-funded organizations were based in Washington – and since the NED bureaucracy was dominated by neoconservatives – NED, in effect, became a permanent funding mechanism for the neocon community in the U.S. capital.

Ironically, NED, which currently has a $100 million annual budget, may have done more to influence the course of the United States than any of the countries it has targeted for “democratization.” NED funding explains why Washington’s neocons have remained so influential despite their involvement in so many policy disasters, such as the Iraq War.

Even when the neocons find themselves adrift during brief periods out of power, many of them remain afloat with the help of NED grant money. They can hang onto a financial life-preserver tossed from some institute that benefits from the federal funding.

That way, the neocons can continue writing op-eds and books, while weighing in on TV talk shows and at conferences that shape U.S. government policies.

These political/media mechanisms dating back to the Reagan years may have been originally designed to protect the political flanks of a Republican administration, but it turned out they could be put to use just as effectively for offense as for defense.

When Clinton managed to wrest the White House from the Republicans after 12 years of Reagan and Bush-41, the GOP realized that it could well shorten its time out of power by savaging the new President and creating chaos to undermine his political power and his popularity.

Clinton-Hating

In February 1994, I attended the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington and was stunned to see the array of Clinton-hating paraphernalia, including slick videos suggesting that Bill Clinton was a murderer and semi-nude photo-shopped images of Hillary Clinton. (Some of the anti-Clinton propaganda was being financed by the same right-wing foundations that had collaborated with Reagan and Casey.)

By early fall 1994, the anti-Clinton hysteria was sweeping the country, though Democrats were mostly oblivious to its ferocity. Shortly before the 1994 elections, I had dinner with a savvy Democratic operative at the Monocle restaurant on Capitol Hill and told him that it looked to me like the Democrats would lose both the House and the Senate.

He responded that I might be right about the Senate but that there was no way the House would fall to the Republicans. A few days later, however, that was exactly what happened.

While the Democrats were slow on the uptake, the Republicans definitely “got” what was happening and why. In celebration, the Gingrich “revolutionaries” made Rush Limbaugh an honorary member of the new Republican congressional majority, hailing him as their “national precinct captain.”

Though today’s conventional wisdom holds that a big difference between 1994 and 2010 is that Gingrich had a positive message in his “Contract for America,” that analysis misses the point that it was the tearing down of the Clintons – represented by Limbaugh’s daily tirades – and the impression of national disarray under Clinton that were key to the GOP victory in 1994.

In the years that followed, the anti-Clinton hysteria would have other consequences. On April 19, 1995, right-wing militia fanatic Timothy McVeigh detonated a bomb at the Oklahoma City federal building killing 168 people. Limbaugh and others who had stoked the fires of paranoia would angrily deny any suggestion that they had contributed to the catastrophe.

Despite Clinton’s reelection in 1996, the Republicans did not give up their determination to destroy him. In 1998-99, they instituted impeachment proceedings that sought to oust him from office for lying about his extramarital sex life. Though Clinton survived a Senate trial, he and his family were humiliated and Republicans were energized to restore the Reagan-Bush dynasty by putting George W. Bush into the White House, even if he did lose the popular vote to Al Gore.

The same two elements – tearing down a Democratic president and creating a sense of political havoc – are again at the center of Republican strategy, except that today the GOP is even better placed to carry out a repeat than the party was in 1994. Then, there was no Fox News dominating the cable TV ratings and the right-wing media was far less developed than it is today.

Though the Republicans can’t say that Obama wasn’t legitimately elected (he won with 53 percent of the vote and a record 66.8 million ballots), the Right has questioned his legitimacy in other ways, such as the spurious claims that he was born in Kenya despite his Hawaii birth certificate.

The Tea Party crowd also has decried him as some Islamic-terrorist-loving, America-hating communist, socialist or Nazi – if not the anti-Christ. A popular Tea Party poster shows Obama as a white-faced Joker, the sociopathic character from the latest Batman movie.

With funding from corporate and other right-wing interests, the Tea Partiers also have done their best to create political chaos.

Last summer, Tea Party activists disrupted “town hall” meetings on health care, and this spring, they forced Democratic members of Congress to run a gauntlet of insults and other abuse as they walked to the Capitol to vote on health-care reform – scenes reminiscent of white racists shouting at black students at Little Rock Central High School in 1957.

High-Level Encouragement

The organized chaos even entered the Congress itself, as Republican lawmakers cheered protesters on – and at times acted like them.

Last year, Rep. Joe Wilson, R-South Carolina, shouted “you lie” at Obama during a presidential address. During the health-care vote, Rep. Randy Neugebauer, R-Texas, yelled “baby killer” while Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Michigan, was speaking against a Republican motion to stop the bill by requiring revised anti-abortion language.

Republican leaders also engaged in apocalyptic rhetoric, with House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio declaring that passage of health-care reform would lead to “Armageddon,” a religious reference to the end-times battle between a warrior Jesus and the anti-Christ.

In the days after the health-care vote, the disruptions did spill over into violence, with bricks thrown through the windows of Democratic offices and death threats made against members of Congress. Some militant Tea Partiers vowed to stage an armed rally near Washington.

Though Boehner and a few other Republican leaders finally criticized acts of violence, others continued to wink at the unruly behavior or shift the blame onto the Democrats for talking about it.

"It is reckless to use these incidents as media vehicles for political gain," said House Minority Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia, criticizing Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Maryland, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and Democratic National Chairman Tim Kaine for "dangerously fanning the flames by suggesting that these incidents be used as a political weapon."

For her part, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin defended her advice that her backers should “reload” and her decision to put crosshairs on the districts of endangered Democrats, saying the references had nothing to do with violence. She blamed the controversy on “this BS coming from the lame-stream media, lately, about us inciting violence.”

Amid these mixed messages, right-wing extremists now appear to be shifting from aggressive words and disruptive protests to going operational.

On Monday, FBI agents arrested nine alleged members of a Michigan-based Christian militia group, called Hutaree, charging them with a plot to kill a police officer, bomb the funeral and touch off an armed uprising against the U.S. government. The Hutaree see themselves as at war with the anti-Christ.

Despite the growing specter of political violence, the Republicans appear set in their determination to foment as much disruption as possible between now and the November elections, and thus reap expected gains, with hopes that they can win back the House and Senate and then further neutralize Obama.

Inside-Outside

While some Washington pundits see the Republicans as captives of the extremism on the Right – unable to dismount a dangerous tiger – the counter-analysis would be that the GOP and the Tea Party/militia crowd are just two parts of the same political movement, one inside the system and the other outside, but both working toward the same goal, a restoration of Republican/Right control of government.

In their view, only then would political comity and governmental normalcy be restored, because the Democrats always seem eager to get along and do what’s necessary to make government work.

To refer back to the Nicaragua comparison, the GOP’s inside-outside game is like Nicaragua’s pro-U.S. “internal opposition” operating as a non-violent political arm while the U.S.-funded paramilitary contras wreaked havoc in the countryside, both with the goal of removing the Sandinistas from power.

And as long as this “make-the-political-system-scream” strategy continues to work, it is probably unrealistic to expect the Republicans to disavow it. Washington power and the money that comes with it are so intoxicating that the political risks appear well worth it, especially if Democrats and the American Left don’t have the means or the courage to stand against abuses by Republicans and the Right.

That pattern of acquiescence by the Democrats and the Left dates back to the emergence of this Republican anything-goes strategy more than four decades ago. As audiotapes at LBJ’s presidential library make clear, Johnson was aware of Nixon’s pre-election sabotaging of the Paris peace talks in 1968, but remained silent to avoid risking damage to Nixon’s presidential legitimacy.

Similarly, Jimmy Carter and other leading Democrats, such as former Rep. Lee Hamilton, were aware of substantial evidence that Ronald Reagan’s campaign secretly undercut Carter’s efforts to win the release of 52 American hostages held in Iran in 1980, but the Democrats have chosen to look the other way.

Hamilton, who prides himself on his “bipartisanship,” led a congressional investigation into the Iran-hostage “October Surprise” mystery in 1992, but refused to pursue late-developing evidence pointing to Republican guilt even after his chief counsel, Lawrence Barcella, asked for an extension because so much new information was pouring in by the end of 1992.

Barcella told me later that Hamilton simply ordered the inquiry brought to a close with its finding of Republican innocence. Much of the new evidence implicating the Republicans was then stored away, including a Russian intelligence report confirming secret meetings between Republicans and Iranians.

For his part, ex-President Carter appeared more concerned about the danger of being accused of sour grapes than learning anything new about how the Republicans sank his presidency.

In 1996, while meeting with Palestine Liberation Organization leader Yasir Arafat, Carter reportedly raised his hands into a physical stop position when Arafat tried to confess to his role in the Republican maneuvering to block Carter’s Iran-hostage negotiations.

“There is something I want to tell you,” Arafat said, addressing Carter at a meeting in Arafat’s bunker in Gaza City. “You should know that in 1980 the Republicans approached me with an arms deal if I could arrange to keep the hostages in Iran until after the election.”

Arafat was apparently prepared to provide additional details and evidence, but Carter raised his hands, indicating that he didn’t want to hear anymore.

The Pattern Continues

So, the Republicans have never been made to pay a political price for their scheming to undercut sitting Democratic presidents -- and to grease the GOP’s route back to power. Whenever a Democrat is in the White House, the Republicans believe they are free do whatever they want to block him from solving national problems, making him look weak and ineffectual.

That was true of Johnson, Carter, Clinton and now Obama.

This GOP strategy is pursued even if it tarnishes the international image of the United States or if it undermines national security, even if it means more than 20,000 additional U.S. soldiers dying in Vietnam, or 52 American hostages facing longer captivity in Iran, or the likes of Timothy McVeigh feeling empowered to blow up a federal building.

The strategy continues even if it raises the current threat level against President Obama and Democratic lawmakers. The strategy continues because it works.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/033110.html
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:00 AM
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1. I agree completely and I hope everyone reads this. K&R nt
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:03 AM
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2. I thought this was a great post
and a good read that covered just about everything.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:30 AM
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3. Probably this is his best piece, extremely insightful and accurate.
I hope many read this and give it some serious thought. Democrats could campaign on this article alone..
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:38 AM
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5. I agree. This is a very acurate way republicans work.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:33 AM
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4. A couple of days ago an NPR commentator boiled it down to...
the Republicans made a huge bet that they could beat any healthcare bill and destroy Obama, thereby getting back into power.

They lost this bet, but that's not the end of it.

(Ever since the South went Republican back in the 60s and 70s, every Democratic President we have had has suffered from a too common belief that he did not deserve the office-- Carter, Clinton, and Obama have been attacked by this delusional propaganda.)





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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:40 AM
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6. The real deal will be seeing how much we can get done
while Obama is in office.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 03:03 PM
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33. It is EXACTLY what they did with Clinton ...
I was in my 20-30s and getting my shiite together in life during the 90s and not real active politically, but from a distance, it pained me to see the Rs going after Clinton the way they did, and the media enabling it ...

Now, I am MUCH more integrated into politics and the Rs are doing what they always do, go back to what worked before until it clearly does not work, then spin around throwing whatever crape they can get their hands on ...

And, the media is even worse now than it was during the 90s, just completely in the R bag, they don't even try to hide it anymore ...

The only hope in riding this out is that BO is better man than Clinton was ... Clinton was sharp as a tack, and had the best interests of the country at hand, and a very solid progressive mindset. But, obviously, he had his major flaw in his personal conduct ...

The hope is that BO is the man of immense integrity he looks to be in his personal life, and that he is a genuinely honest person. Now, his disadvantage to clinton on a personal level is his color - Bubba was white, and that was enough to get him grace with the right leaning middle ... BO's color is an absolute rule out for those who have issues with it, and not all of them are far right ...

His strength was his overwhelming appeal to minorities and the youth vote. They tuned in to get him elected, but are on sabatical, unfortunately most likely until the next presidential ...

Unless the MSM gets even the first level of journalistic integrity and starts calling the fight a little more evenly, it is going to be hard to get through this fall without limiting the damage ...

I was SURE once they got health care done the media would ease up from carrying right wing water at least a bit, but it was not even a week before they got back in gear with it ...

The on tangible the fight will turn to some degree is the job numbers ... They have to drop by a tangible number ... I mean, it does not have to be 5%, but it has to move under 9% to have the REALITY be clear that tide has turned ... Not good enough to counter the MSM messaging to say they stopped the bleeding, no more overall job losses, other good numbers ... If it was an R, it would be hailed as "SAVING THE ECONOMY" ... It is a D, so they get to own the mess they inhereted and get no credit for staving off disaster and setting the grounds for upward gains ...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:49 AM
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7. Excellent read but unless you have the author's permission
you're only allowed to post four paragraphs.

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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 09:13 AM
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9. I'm glad the entire article was posted - good read. n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 02:01 PM
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24. Self delete.. . .n/t
Edited on Sat Apr-03-10 02:02 PM by annabanana
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 09:07 AM
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8. Their success at this depends entirely on Democrat's inability
to present a cohesive and united front AND to disarm the circular firing squad that forms after elections.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 08:02 PM
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86. Very much agreed. I was shocked last year when I was watching
The RW Tea Baggers shouting at town meetings. And by shouting, they took control over the meetings.

I have been to numerous controversial town hall-style meetings in my life. And there was ALWAYS a game plan that kept order in force. That order and civility was insisted upon from the second that an individual showed up. If you wanted to speak, you signed in. So if you wanted to be first to speak, you had to show up early.

The fact that the President himself did not insist on any sort of civility drove me crazy. Maybe it was okay with him to have people standing around armed outside of meetings, but in small communities where union workers out on strike have been shot and killed, it will be of no comfort knowing that this behavior was legitimized from on high.

In tense situations, civility is important. And for the person running the nation to not even bother to discuss how this was an unacceptable situation, it just makes me wonder why we even have a President. (Soemtimes I think that the only reason we currently have one is so that Geithner and Bernancke can continue to shovel money out of the back door of the Treasury and the Fed, but if that is the only reason, maybe we should consider just letting AIG run our financial system, let Monsanto run the agricultural sector, let Cigna, Blue Shield etc continue to run the health sector, and we could save the money for the salaries of all the middle men - Senators, Congress people and the Oval Office crowd. Plus the salaries of the lobbyists as well.)
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 09:13 AM
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10. OK - this is WAY too long - need to distill it into a nice shorter synopsis...
Edited on Sat Apr-03-10 09:33 AM by TankLV
If I want to read a novel, I'll buy a book...

Besides - I thought you couldn't post anything longer than a couple paragraphs before linking it so one can read it at their leisure or choice.

But I did manage to read the whole damn thing after I had the time, and it's what I've been saying for years now - it's a damn good read and everyone should make the time to do it.

But they left out one small - but important - tidbit: The fact that CONVICTED CRIMINAL Ollie North himself was put in charge of the Iranian Hostage Rescue Mission and that he sabatoged it early on to insure a repuke victory. Nobody likes to talk about that...
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 02:00 PM
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23. So YOU can go into the bumpersticker business. If you're punchy and
funny enough you'll do well.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 02:43 PM
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30. It's a valid criticism...
so fuck off if you can't comprehend it...
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 09:43 AM
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11. Excellent article.
These actions by the Republican Party aren't just mean politics, they are treasonous. By attempting to destroy legitimately elected presidents the GOP seeks to overturn the will of the electorate. There is no greater crime against a democracy.

Make no mistake, this is a coup de etat attempt just like they like to pull off in the banana republics.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 06:14 PM
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47. This did not start recently...If you remember Prescott Bush was
involved with corporate Americas in the 1930's to try to physically overthrow a democratic president. Thank the Lord the person they picked to lead the charge was a true American patriot and would have no part of it. BUT I do think that Prescott should have been charged with treason and then we wouldn't have been put thru the previous administration that completely ruined this great country of ours.

And you can bet your bottom dollar that the instigators, bush jr and cheney are sitting on their crooked asses and laughing out loud at how the republicans are now trying to undermine this administration. NONE not ONE republican cares about the country all they want is money and power.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 01:24 AM
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68. I know it.
Prescott and others were fans of the European fascist regimes. I think it is safe to assume their legacy lives on in the Neo-Con movement of today.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 09:44 AM
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12. I hadn't realized that the repub strategy of obstructionism went back that far
Great article
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 09:56 AM
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13. Wow can't agree more or recommend more strongly
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 10:05 AM
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14. Take the time to read this! K&R
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 10:39 AM
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15. Long, but well worth the read.....................
Now does ANY Democratic muckity-muck have a counter strategy? All I can think of is keep talking about it. Olbermann? Maddow? Shultz? Lawrence O'Donnell?
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 07:59 AM
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73. The counter strategy would be to CALL THEM OUT ON IT, loudly and often,
and to respond in kind.

For instance, if our Congressional leaders were to block ALL earmarks to Republican districts as long as the obstructionism continues, I expect you would see an about face pretty quick.

Unfortunately, as the article suggests, too often the Democrats are content to play the role of 'loyal opposition', even when they have the majority!
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 10:41 AM
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16. I both alerted and recommended this...
You're not allowed to reprint this much of an article without permission... That being said...

Republicans know little else other than "divide and conquer."
Republicans don't know how to govern, only how to "rule."
Republicans HATE democracy, and they know that by encouraging the worst behavior people are capable of, they are making citizens question the very validity of democracy itself.
People here and elsewhere constantly fall for their shit, and somehow "believe" that Republicans are "sincere" in their attitudes.
There are only two kinds of Republicans - Those at the very top who want total control of society and have the money and power to do something about it... and the Suckers.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 10:54 AM
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18. Good point - there are only two kinds of Republicans: Bullies and suckers.
That should be a bumpersticker!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 02:46 PM
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31. Wow! That is so true, and WOULD make a GREAT bumpersticker!!!
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 03:26 PM
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35. Thanks...just remember to credit me: Linda aka Raksha on DU.
But since all I did was shorten what "The Commonist" said and make it a little more catchy, I can't claim all the credit for it. So it's a throwawy--feel free to use it any way you want!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 03:41 PM
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38. Thanks!!
:thumbsup: :hi:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 06:27 PM
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49. I often say "Republicans are either wealthy or gullible." nm
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 10:44 AM
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17. It's clear that the Republicans have "go to" Democrats
Who are willing to do their bidding. Exhibit A: Lee Hamilton and his work on the 9/11 Commission report.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:20 PM
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58. The "go to" Democrats and Blue Dog scum are a separate problem,
and I don't underestimate it for one minute. But this topic focuses on the Republicans and their use of obstructionism and "creative chaos" as political strategies. Oh yeah...and what we can do about it. That's going to be the hard part.
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Cowpunk Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:51 AM
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19. K&R'd Outstanding Analysis NT
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 01:19 PM
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20. BINGO! Something I've been gritting my teeth about for years: GOP Entitlement.
It's the World's Largest Entitlement Program.

Not Medicare.

Not Social Security.

Not Food Stamps.

Not Veterans benefits.

Not Freedom of Speech.

NONE of those even come close.

The World's Largest Entitlement Program is the republi-CONS' attitude toward the White House: that they're simply ENTITLED to rule there. That it is indeed quite simply their birthright. No wonder they act out and throw tantrums and turn into sniveling spoiled three-year-olds when they don't get their way. And they'll probably tell you they're better parents than you are WHILE they're behaving like adult three-year-old snot-noses, throwing those tantrums.

How do you handle a child who throws tantrums all the time to get his/her way? Well, the one thing you DON'T do is give in and reinforce that shitty behavior!!!
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:06 PM
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51. Oh, i thought they were entitled to huge amounts of defense contractor money.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 02:40 PM
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83. That's kind of a subsidiary entitlement, but yes, another republi-CON entitlement.
One of MANY.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 01:23 PM
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21. Right!
It cannot be a good piece of legislation if no Republican voted for it? It is a totally partisan bill. even though the Republicans made the decision to oppose everything unanimously. Insane.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 01:58 PM
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22. Excellent essay. The pattern is not hidden. They've been doing this
right out in the open, secure in the knowledge that the MSM is safely coopted and in their corner, and that the public education system has been bent AWAY from critical thinking for nearly 40 years.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 02:09 PM
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25. I wonder if any Democrats are getting a clue about this.....
or if they will be forever stuck in denial about something that doesn't fit with a middle class view of the world--namely that the Republicans are not playing fairly and have no intention of doing so.

Four decades is a long time to be in denial. I hope we may have reached the point where the treasonous Republicans have over-played their hand.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 02:21 PM
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26. Most of todays dems
in the goverment aren't dems.They pretend to be.
Infiltrating and subverting institutions and organizations is another tactic in their playbook.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 06:17 PM
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48. You got that right..
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riverbendviewgal Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 02:28 PM
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27. House of Cards built during Republican years.
I watched this last night.

I suggest you all take a look. It is obvious that the Bush and his cronies/associates knew what was happening.
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2009-2010/house_of_cards/

Vanity and Greed - that is the Republican way of life.

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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 02:40 PM
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28. Been saying this for years -- to yawns and head-shakers...
I don't have a big ego about this, but this is nothing new, and I and others have been saying this for years.

The GOP IS the Far Right, the Far Right IS the GOP; no branches, no wings, no "moderates." They are quite serious about being in PERMANENT POWER, and will use any means necessary (to borrow a 60s radical expression, which the GOP has completely adopted).

Consider another shibboleth both adoringly promoted and chanted regularly by MSM: The Country is Polarized. The country is NOT polarized. Polarization suggests two or more poles. There is but one pole: the GOP Far Right. There is no other pole, no other organized opposition. The GOP has a back-room pool table gang-bang going down and no opposition. Did I say no opposition?

And I will say this as well: I get a little tired about all the hand-wringing over the Far Right; the Right will take over, keep us in permanent war, abrogate the Constitution, formalize authoritarian power, revoke rights and threaten opposition with jail, and .... OH! by the way, we should have gun-control.

Yeah, now tell me how much you believe in your own coffee-house rant.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 02:41 PM
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29. K & R, also forwarded to everyone I know.
Edited on Sat Apr-03-10 02:44 PM by BrklynLiberal
It is quite obvious that the repukes do not care one iota for what is best for this country and its citizens.

They only want to be able to retain power, and to enrich their cronies, regardless of the cost to the citizens of the US..and perhaps even of the world.

There is not an altruistic or empathetic bone in the body of anyone who is a repuke.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 02:48 PM
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32. Tinfoil Conspiracy Nonsense.
There is a time-tested blueprint for having Brownshirts rage with anger in the streets ... then start a Third Party ... be ridiculed as buffoons by the masses before they seized power ... and be led by a charismatic messianic figure who was a failed media artist.

"But she doesn't have a mustache this time, you're a Tinfoil loon."

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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 03:05 PM
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34. Had to rec this - following the rules or not
At the end of the day - this nails it. This is how they operate.


Now - will this message be made clear to the President's Administration? Pelosi? Reid? I hope so. Between the Health Care (still needs Medicare for All) win, and the jobs report yesterday - as well as looking at the number of jobs since November of last year: They need to 'Rule' the Roost. On everything. No negotiations, no compromises. And the talking point needs to be, especially when it comes from those in the President's Administration, "We won. We won by popularity and electoral vote. Discussion over unless you tow our line."

Maybe I'm hoping for too much? But if the Opposition is there ONLY to be spoilers and put themselves back in power? Then they need to be knocked down and cowed at every opportunity.

You cannot play nice with these people.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 03:38 PM
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37. Hopefully Obama is a Springsteen fan:
Edited on Sat Apr-03-10 03:39 PM by BrklynLiberal
Well, we made a promise we swore we'd always remember
No retreat, baby, no surrender
Like soldiers in the winter's night
With a vow to defend
No retreat, baby, no surrender


Well, we bursted out of class
Had to get away from those fools
We learned more from a 3-minute record, baby
Than we ever learned in school
Tonight I hear the neighborhood drummer sound
I can feel my heart begin to pound
You say you're tired and you just want to close your eyes
And follow your dreams down

Chorus:
Well, we made a promise we swore we'd always remember
No retreat, baby, no surrender
Like soldiers in the winter's night
With a vow to defend
No retreat, baby, no surrender

Well, now young faces grow sad and old
And hearts of fire grow cold
We swore blood brothers against the wind
Now I'm ready to grow young again
And hear your sister's voice calling us home
Across the open yards
Well maybe we'll cut someplace of own
With these drums and these guitars

'Cause we made a promise we swore we'd always remember
No retreat, baby, no surrender
Blood brothers in the stormy night
With a vow to defend
No retreat, baby, no surrender

Now on the street tonight the lights grow dim
The walls of my room are closing in
There's a war outside still raging
You say it ain't ours anymore to win
I want to sleep beneath
Peaceful skies in my lover's bed
With a wide open country in my eyes
And these romantic dreams in my head

Once we made a promise we swore we'd always remember
No retreat, baby, no surrender
Blood brothers in a stormy night
With a vow to defend
No retreat, baby, no surrender
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 11:33 AM
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81. It reminds me of the song by Don Henley "Inside Job"
Inside Job
(Don Henley/Mike Campbell)

While you were sleeping
They came and took it all away
The lanes and the meadows
The places where you used to play

It was an inside job
By the well-connected
Your little protest
Summarily rejected

It was an inside job
Like it always is
Chalk it up to business as usual

While we are dreaming
This little island disappears
While you are looking the other way
They'll take your right to own your own ideas

And it's an inside job
Favors collected
Your trusted servants
Have left you unprotected

It was an inside job
Like it always is
Just chalk it up
To business as usual

You think that you're so smart
But you don't have a fucking clue
What those men up in the towers
Are doing to me and you
And they'll keep doin' it and doin' it
And doin' it and doin' it
And doin' it and doin' it
And doin' it and doin' it
Until we all wake up
Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up

I know what I've done wrong
I am acquainted with the night
I know how hard it is
To always walk out in the light

And it's an inside job
To learn about forgiving
It's an inside job
To hang on to the joy of living

They know the road by which you came
They know your mother's maiden name
And what you had for breakfast
And what you've hidden in the mattress

Insect politics
Indifferent universe
Bang your head against the wall
But apathy is worse

It's an inside job
It's an inside job
It's an inside job
Yeh, yeah

It's an inside job
It's an inside job
It's an inside job
It's an inside job

It's an inside job
It's an inside job
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 03:53 PM
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85. Henley is poet....GREAT lyrics to his songs.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 03:34 PM
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36. Stomach wrenching and teeth clenching...even more so because of its veracity..
Edited on Sat Apr-03-10 03:36 PM by BrklynLiberal


<snip>
While some Washington pundits see the Republicans as captives of the extremism on the Right – unable to dismount a dangerous tiger – the counter-analysis would be that the GOP and the Tea Party/militia crowd are just two parts of the same political movement, one inside the system and the other outside, but both working toward the same goal, a restoration of Republican/Right control of government.

In their view, only then would political comity and governmental normalcy be restored, because the Democrats always seem eager to get along and do what’s necessary to make government work.

<snip>


:mad: :puke: :spank: :grr: :nuke: :scared: :shrug:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 03:50 PM
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39. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, samplegirl.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 03:53 PM
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40. I'm a pacifist at heart
...but reading this makes me want to just.... ugh!

Hope Pres. Obama 'gets it' and starts criminal proceedings against the bush admin, and that he really *DOES* go ahead and RAM IT DOWN THEIR THROATS as far as financial reform, jobs bills, infrastructure and environmental legislation...

they deserve a little ramming, for sure :evilgrin:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 04:04 PM
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41. Limbaugh the puke. Worse than Fr. Coughlin by tenfold.
Limbaugh's spawn are vermin infesting the airwaves.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 04:20 PM
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42. This is indeed a must read....Thanks
Robert Parry always a perceptive writer.
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 04:21 PM
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43. I just...
sent it on to a friend who is very good at disseminating this sort of thing.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 04:32 PM
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44. David Brock's 'Blinded By The Right' touched on many of The Arkansas Project attacks on Clinton.
It's been years since I read it though. BTW, you can find that book on Amazon for less than ten bucks.
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:58 PM
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90. Everyone should read this one.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 05:30 PM
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45. Hard truth. Can't recommend this enough.
Excellent, excellent historical perspective.



GOP and the Tea Party/militia crowd are just two parts of the same political movement, one inside the system and the other outside, but both working toward the same goal, a restoration of Republican/Right control of government.

Amen, Amen. K & R.


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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 06:10 PM
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46. It DOES work.
We need to fight back.

Julie
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 06:34 PM
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50. Why arent we doing something about this? nm
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:07 PM
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52. It's so simple that even a blind man can see, a deaf man can hear,
a man deprived of all sensory senses and sense and smell. :-)
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:27 PM
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53. 100% spot on
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FedUpAmerican Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:48 PM
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54. Right-Wing Bizarro World
republicans have ALWAYS had a sense of distorted reality but it seems that tey have gone completely over the edge after Obama was elected President. I have NEVER seen such a division between the parties in all my life.
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:50 PM
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55. Pretty much says it all.
That's probably the best comprehensive view of GOP strategies I've ever read in one article.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:55 PM
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56. Thanks for this. Tons of facts to back up the claim.
A real history lesson......
I'm glad it's posted in full--well worth breaking a rule. (I've always been against enforcing a rule when breaking it supports a higher good.)

Wish there was something I could do to help turn back the thugs.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:00 PM
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57. Massive Kick & Rec
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:22 PM
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59. The Problem With This Thesis
Is that the Republicons (regardless if they were Palinites, Bushites, or Cheneyites) would be neutralized if the Democrots had a response (aka back bone) rather than to continue their enabling behavior...This has especially been going on since the fraudulent 2000 election.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:33 PM
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60. All that, plus IMO if Democrats can hold onto power and a few ideals . . .
there is much to be opened up, investigated and overturned --

a lot of political violence in those years post-JFK --

lotta stuff went on that was buried and covered up!

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Deadgnome Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 08:52 PM
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61. Phenomenal Article.
Thanks OP, very informative and so on point it hurts.
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saorsa Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 09:58 PM
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62. " If you don't know history, the world is a mystery " - Thanks!
Thanks so much for posting this, maybe you have helped more people find Robert Parry's work, and that is a great service.
It is so hard to watch the years go by and see the maneuvers and machinations of the right succeed again and again. In the past, there was no internet, so only a small number of people could benefit from analysis like this; either from written media sources or radio programs or word of mouth.
Now, we do have the internet, and sharing information is easier. The long and tangled past is present in nearly every dire dilemma we now struggle with, and that is why keeping us ignorant of the ploys of the past is so crucial to the right. These days, now that we do have the internet, the strategy of keeping the noise and distraction at full throttle serves to keep many from understanding the reasons behind our current political condition.
I don't know but it seems to me, that there are two truths about our current sad state; one: that ignorance is our most dangerous weakness, we have a modern media but the message is severely restricted; and two: that our system of leadership is so well controlled that, with few exceptions, only co-opted and controllable leaders are allowed to gain any power.
Every once in a while, someone with real courage and integrity manages to come close to challenging this state of affairs, but these days it is more and more evident that without an informed public, no single person can fight the right. It is going to take a bunch of well informed and courageous people to do that.

Anyway, thanks again for this post!
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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 10:06 PM
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63. I have recognized this for sometime now, but what's to be done about it?
The Republicans are literally trying to ignite another Civil War in this country. They're trying to delegitimize Obama and make it increasingly impossible for him to govern. Our mainstream news media sucks. It's starting to feel rather hopeless.
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SpankMe Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 10:10 PM
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64. BIG recommend.
I'm sending this to the Whitehouse. They really need to know about this!
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 08:09 AM
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74. Great Idea
I hope you do!

:kick:
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november3rd Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 10:22 PM
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65. Whole Article
Thanks for stuffing the whole essay in. Yeah, Consortium News is one media outlet the Republican Noise machine will never own. It's incredible how the American public lets the corporate media launder our news.

My take on the docility of Democratic politicians is that Parry is right about the CIA, the National Endowment for Democracy and the US Association for International Development. The Democratic politicians know that these organizations operate outside the light of public scrutiny and utilize any subterfuge to defeat their opponents.

So, they go running to the apron strings of corporate chiefs with absurd trade and economic policies, union-busting, globalization, financial deregulation and defunding of public institutions--like public schools and universities. Clinton and Obama hope these gestures will "buy off" their corporate overlords and help restore the balance of Republican good will in their favor.

In the American Revolution, the wealthiest men like Hancock, Washington, John Adams, and the others, were willing to sacrifice everything--not for their freedom from responsibility for their countrymen--but for the benefit of their country.

Today, the wealthy power brokers are willing to sacrifice not only their countrymen--but the country itself--for their own individual gain.
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livingonearth Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:57 PM
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66. Great post!
Read it all and book marked it to read again later. I wish this was the kind of stuff going out over the airwaves day after day instead of all the misleading Reich Wing propaganda.
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elzenmahn Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 12:53 AM
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67. What else can you expect...
...when your disloyal opposition doesn't even believe in government in the first place?

Excellent post, and it all adds up - remember Grover's desire to shrink government so it can be drowned in a bathtub? How 'bout Paul Weyrich telling people he didn't want everybody to vote? Or Ronniebaby's clarion call that "Government isn't the solution...Government is the problem."

...and the media continues to pump the same "conventional wisdom" about the Repub's behavior...
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 08:10 AM
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76. But they do believe in government,
just a government that serves the interests of a monied elite rather than the country as a whole.

When in power, the Republicans do not ever cut spending or reduce the size of government. Quite the contrary, actually.

All this anti-government BS just plays well with their idiot teabagger 'base'.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 10:47 AM
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79. IMO, you're BOTH right....................
Although it sounds contradictory. If you don't believe in government there are only TWO reasons to be involved in government and NEITHER reason will lead to GOOD governing. You're either in it to dismantle it (Grover Norquist) or you're in it to get as much as you can out of it for yourself (too many Republican scandals to name).

BTW, this question, (i.e., How can a party that doesn't BELIEVE in government be expected to govern?) is one to ask all of your Republican and RW buds or debate partners. I've asked it SEVERAL times and they can NEVER give any sort of logical answer.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 03:28 PM
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84. So when is it treason?
I knew the questions over the intentional failure of the October Surprise. Then, there's the outing of a CIA network that monitors WMDS--and the Iran-Contra went directly against the people of the US, since Ollie and his higher ups went against congress. and, the fabrications produced by the * administration to wage war--did they care about those Americans who would die or American money going towards a bogus war? No, they cared about lining their pockets, as well as, their war profiteering greedy buddies. Tell me, how are these traitors punished? They did not do it for the well being of the country, it was for themselves and their corrupt, morally bankrupt business dealings.

These people do not love this country nor its people.

And IF evidence ever comes to light, that our glorious leader and his band of chickenhawks sat on their hands during 9/11, then maybe more Americans will wake up and see that these individuals could care less about the well being of this country.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:54 PM
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89. Apparently never.......................
Although there are some areas that I think should be considered treasonous, the DoJ doesn't agree with me. :)
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 02:55 AM
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69. Every Dem Should Read This Post & Send It On To Their Repug Friends.......
I believe that many Americans that follow the Repug way would be shocked to read this and may in fact change their party affiliation after they would read this. Thanks for posting.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 06:51 AM
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70. +1, Agreed & Well Said!
:toast:
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srf Rantz Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 07:06 AM
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71. been trying to say the same for decades
so good to see this getting the attention it deserves. has seemed so obvious to me for decades.

(I think why Parry succeeded in getting audience is he avoided the "vast right wing conspiracy" trap, which is what it is really. A vast network of like-minded people following the same strategy in constant contact with each other and never wavering lock step obedience)

The similarities of what's going on in the US now to what the CIA did in country after country to destablize and overthow democratic or socialist-leaning governments and install corporate friendly oligarchys and/or military dictatorships has been something I've trumpeted for a long time only to be called a conspiracy nut.

The thing that most drives me to distraction about this approach to politics, aside from its complete disregard for the good of the country in favor of solely seeking power for its own ends, is its totally cynical view of the level of intelligence of the American people. But sadly, that's why it works.

Its just unbelievable to me that people will vote for the party which is so obviously causing the chaos, in order to hopefully bring an end to it.

In the end our "Democracy" simply boils down to a choice then between accepting open corporate control and corruption of government and the ongoing migration of power and money up to the few while impoverishing the masses, or complete political chaos and confusion, irregardless of whether the voters understand that this is their choice or not.

For a long time I foolishly believed that the key to breaking this cycle was to inform those who fell for the propaganda that the Democratic party and its policies were to blame not only for the problems of the country, but also for the uproar about them. It seemed so logical and obvious. If only we could show the Tea Party types how they were being used and misled they would never vote Republican again. I now realize that is impossible.

I don't know how to stop it. I don't think its ever been done.
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 07:44 AM
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72. K&R & a sadly Happy Easter, DU.
My dad saw this coming as far back as Nixon and drummed it into every head he could. Alas, no one was listening then, and many aren't now.
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Papa Boule Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 08:09 AM
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75. In short, like any abuser, if they can't run a house, they'll tear it down
n/t
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 08:33 AM
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77. So true.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 09:09 AM
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78. The people who should read this, will discount it immediately.
"There are none so blind as those who will not see."
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 11:28 AM
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80. Excellent description of GOP motives and review of our alarming recent history with the GOP.
Edited on Sun Apr-04-10 11:28 AM by Overseas
I have hated the fake descriptions of the current political disputes being promoted by our conservative dominated mass media-- that it is some noble disagreement about the role of government in society or a scrambling to align with a radicalized right wing base (with zero acknowledgment of heavy right wing funding from Americans for Prosperity type groups to stir up apparent "genuine grass roots" movements).

It is and has been clear since the disgustingly prejudice and fear ridden campaign season that Republicans were once again not at all interested in serious dialog on national issues. They couldn't be, because once again Republican mismanagement had led to disasters like the Bush Crash, Bush Bailouts and Bush Cheney Torture Regime. That's one reason I found their "Country First" campaign signs so disgusting. Republicans haven't been "Country First" for a long long time. They've been Richest Republicans First. Defeat Democrats first. Political wins at all costs. Screw the country.

They've just amped up their usual combat to even more dangerous extremes. And have built up a strong right wing media infrastructure to support their goal of resuming control by whatever means necessary.
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-10 11:45 AM
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82. K/R
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:21 AM
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87. If ever there were a long "must read" post, this is it.
To be ignored at our peril.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:52 AM
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88. "Democrats have chosen to look the other way." = & why is that?
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:10 PM
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91. why indeed?
Its difficult to keep excusing their behavior as one of these:

1. The Dems are just too darn diddlio nice.
2. Too slow in the wits department to respond
3. Think they are above all that and stooping to their level only makes it worse.
4. Are shocked...shocked I tell ya...each and every time they get pwned.
5. Believe if they just ignore it (for the thousandth time) it will all go away.

I really really really do not want to believe that its a sinister good cop / bad cop scenerio, where they are purposely playing the patsy who gets laughed at and sullied by the "right" for their own good because people feeling sorry for them and disgusted by the bully's behaviour is the only way to get elected. And that that is the only thing they can do because they both serve the same over-lords, and cannot ever really go after the ones who pull the puppet strings (or rather they could, but are too afraid/greedy to actually do it)

But year after year of this acquiescence to the assholes is making me start to wonder.
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