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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:50 PM
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This will likely get lost but John Dean did a three hour interview on CSPAN
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 04:56 PM by EFerrari
that was aired this weekend.

He's so worth the time, imo:

About the Program

Author and former White House counsel John Dean was our guest for In Depth on Sunday, April 4, 2010. Mr. Dean is the author of ten books, including Blind Ambition: The White House Years, The Rehnquist Choice: The Untold Story of the Nixon Appointment that Redefined the Supreme Court, and Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush. John Dean was the White House counsel to President Richard Nixon for nearly three years. Prior to his tenure in the White House, Mr. Dean was an associate deputy attorney general in the U.S. Department of Justice and served as chief minority counsel for the House Judiciary Committee.

http://www.booktv.org/Program/11419/In+Depth+John+Dean.aspx

Transcript (with vid) here:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/292839-1

Steve Scully was the interviewer and you know, he did a great job.

fwiw
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:51 PM
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1. Thanks! nt
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:57 PM
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2. wow, thanks!
I had completely missed that.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:57 PM
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3. Thanks
:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:59 PM
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5. I never agree with Steve Scully, ever, but he set the table for John Dean beautifully!
:hi:

It's nice to be wrong sometimes. lol
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:59 PM
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4. scully's good, and knowledgeable.
This will be worth looking at.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:02 PM
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6. Thanks! I'm going to watch it now. It also reairs on Sat 4/10 at
9AM EST.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:10 PM
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7. I could listen to John Dean all day. In a way, I grew up with him
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 05:10 PM by EFerrari
and he's so lucid, so fair. So cool he's willing to be a "fair witness" for us. :hi:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:19 PM
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8. Has anyone here read "Family of Secrets"? I'm feeling a little confused about Dean as well as Nixon
There are other sources noted in the book but Russ Baker's account is the first I've heard that Nixon was set up by CIA, and forced out of office (with Dean's help-labels him as CIA) Dean served a short sentence then off to CA to become a very rich investment banker, although won't divulge his clients. Nixon po-ed the bushes by not choosing poppy, passed EPA & clean water and had the audacity to ask about "the Bay of Pigs thing".
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:00 PM
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13. I'm unclear about Nixon and his request's for information re:
Bay Of Pigs thing. But many researchers believe that when Nixon used the term "Bay of Pigs" that was short hand for all the nefarious stuff that went on in the early sixties - and that stuff may have lead to the Nov 22 1963 event as well. I haven't read the book you cite, and would love your further expanding open this material from what your read. (After all, the more one learns, well, the more one learns and I am up for learning.)

From various books I have read, under Nixon, George Herbert Walker Bush assumed a great deal of responsibility and oversight over Nixon's 1972 campaign. And those who believe that Nixon had a hand (or maybe simply knowledge) in the Nov 22 1963 event believe the reason for Nixon seeing to the appointment of Bush to be the Chairman of the Republican Party was the fact that George Herbert Walker Bush was even more involved than Nixon was. Once he saw to Bush's appointment, supposedly Nixon could relax knowing that Bush would not spill the beans.

However, in the end Nixon could not relax. He was so friggin' paranoid that the believed that the DNC had insider information about who and what was involved in the actions of Nov 22 1963 - and so Nixon let the Watergate Burglary go ahead. This notion of someone out there knowing what he may have done scared him badly - he was quaking in his boots that they would pull off an "October Surprise" and release this information right before the 1972 November election. As far as the burglary - it should have been a simple, get inside, check things out, and then get out operation on the DNC headquarters, but no one involved in planning the operation planned for a diligent security person being at the Watergate that night. With that night watchman being so diligent, the whole Watergate Burglary crew was busted.


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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:39 PM
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15. According to this book, Nixon was incidentally in Dallas on Nov 22 & wondered if
it was set up that he was there. Prescott was pissed that HW was chosen to be the VP. HW was given the RNC Chair as a token gesture. I don't have access to the book as my husband has it out of town, but there was several scandals to set up Nixon, here is an article that might interest you:


Watergate and the Future: News for 2009
Russ Baker
Published: Monday December 22, 2008



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In this guest column, award-winning investigative reporter Russ Baker gives some background on his new book which, in part, explores former President George H.W. Bush's CIA ties and his little known connections to the Watergate scandal.

One of the fastest ways to raise eyebrows in politically savvy company is to suggest that Richard Nixon was not the villain of Watergate. Everyone knows that Nixon himself set loose the Watergate burglars and then oversaw the attempted cover-up that followed. We know this because the most famous journalists of the last fifty years – Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein – made their careers on that story. I thought I knew it too.

Then I began the research that led to my new book, Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, The Powerful Forces That Put it in the White House, and What Their Influence Means for America. I had no intention, when I started, of re-opening the Watergate inquiries. But the trail led there, as I sought to answer a question that somehow has escaped careful attention. Why did Richard Nixon repeatedly promote George H.W. Bush (Bush Sr., or Poppy, as he is known) for important political posts despite both his apparent lack of qualifications and Nixon's own privately-expressed doubts about Bush's mettle? Why, even when Nixon became so wary of so many of his appointees that he fired cabinet members en masse, did he continue to be solicitous of Bush Sr.?

Nixon named the obscure Poppy to be UN ambassador in 1970 and then chairman of the national Republican Party in 1972. Even earlier, in 1968, Nixon actually put Bush Sr. on his list of vice presidential running mate prospects – this not long after Poppy was first elected to the House of Representatives. Similarly, Nixon's replacement, Gerald Ford, sent Poppy off as envoy to China and later made him CIA director, though by most accounts he was an odd choice for both of these sensitive jobs.

In short, in the Nixon era, Poppy Bush was the man who always seemed to be around, yet also managed to stay out of the main story. Digging way back, I came upon evidence that Nixon felt beholden to the Bush family and to the interests it represented. The reason: Bush Sr.'s father, Senator Prescott Bush, grandfather of George W. Bush, apparently helped launch Nixon's political career in 1946 as a way of destroying his first opponent, liberal congressman Jerry Voorhis, an outspoken critic of the excesses of bankers and financiers. Given the current Wall Street disasters, and the role of Prescott's grandson in enabling them, this revelation has obvious contemporary relevance.

Once I understood this special Nixon-Bush relationship, which is basically missing from all major Nixon biographies, I began to ask what exactly Poppy had been doing during the Watergate years. This led to the discovery that the Watergate break-in was almost certainly just one of a series of illegal acts that were engineered by people around Nixon, but not by Nixon himself. Far from defending Nixon's interests, these people had been privately frustrated with him on a variety of fronts and were now looking to take him down.

-snip
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Watergate_and_Future_News_for_2009_1222.html

THE BOOK IS WORTH A FULL READ, THOUGH. :hi:
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:54 PM
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16. This is great stuff. Makes for compelling reading.
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 06:59 PM by truedelphi
Thank you for posting it.

Some of it I had heard of before, but some not.

And it ties a lot of lose ends together.

there is a movie that runs on our local Public Access station, and in the movie it is mentioned how Hoover was asked by the CIA to produce documents showing what he and the FBI knew about the Nov 22nd event.

And this was the CIA's way of saying, "We know that you know too much, so watch out Buddy Boy."

After all, if those ordering a hit ask the investigators what is known about the hit, the request is not being done for the purpose of making out the full picture of what was done.

After all, those making the hit know exactly what was done. But those who made the hit need to know what others have found out, and also to let anyone investigating understand not to release much information related to that crime.

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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 01:45 AM
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22. It is confusing
I watched Dean on In Depth and read Baker's book. On In Depth, Dean mentioned that he wrote a new afterward to his book Blind Ambition in order to address what he calls Watergate revisionists. He also said that he is considering a lawsuit against Baker. OTOH, I thought Baker raised a couple of interesting points. For example the break in was too sloppy (i.e. the tape across the door) and the power struggle between the Executive Branch and the "CIA faction" (i.e. that represented by GHWB).
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:21 PM
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9. KRec! Thanks EF!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:22 PM
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10. So much my pleasure.
:hug:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:29 PM
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11. so glad
you haven't fallen off the continent yet :pals:
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:29 PM
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12. Thank you EF. I tuned in too late the other day
when it was mentioned here that it was airing that day. You are so right. He is so worth the time.

K & R.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 01:30 AM
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21. John Dean is a dead ringer for my dad.
lol

A great storyteller and such good stories, too. :)
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:38 PM
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14. Saw part of it
Did you see the part where he talked about Goldwater's vote against the civil rights act. He asked Goldwater why he had voted against it in light of the fact that Goldy had integrated the Arizona National Guard, closed Black and White only theaters, etc.

Goldwater told him that it was because of the constitutional analysis from two young attorneys that he admired very much by the names of Rhenquist and Bork.

:puke:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 01:07 AM
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17. When I was growing up, Goldwater = Satan at our house.
Those were the days.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 01:23 AM
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19. In your heart you know he's right - far right
That was my first campaign. Distributed literature and had some old guy throw his newspaper at me.

A good start.
:rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 01:26 AM
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20. LOL!
Sounds like you were a natural! :party:
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 01:20 AM
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18. Thanks!
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