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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 09:25 PM
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David Swanson: Murder Replaces Torture, Brilliant!
Murder Replaces Torture, Brilliant!
By David Swanson
April 8, 2010 - http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/040810a.html

I've been reading about the history of torture, including John T. Parry's new book Understanding Torture: Law, Violence, and Political Identity. Parry gives a history of torture in Europe and the United States through the twentieth century, establishing its pervasiveness, and the repetitiveness of the excuses and legalistic machinations used to allow it.

Parry sees torture as an absolutely normal activity in our society, but an activity that at least until now was always treated as an aberration, no matter how systemic. Parry even tries to suggest at times that torture is required, necessary, or "essential" for western democracies.

That torture has been pervasive I am persuaded of. That the bizarre torture memos crafted by John Yoo and Jay Bybee and their gang differ less than we might think from previous legal memos, laws, and treaties I accept to some extent. That the U.S. prison and immigration systems fed into the new torture regime is beyond dispute.

But Parry could have picked out many times and places to describe that did not use torture to the same extent. The racist and colonialist attitudes that Parry sees as a major support for torture are not constant.

The fact that someone can make a twisted legalistic argument for torture does not make it legal beyond serious dispute. The new public acceptance and mainstreaming of torture in the United States has been a dramatic change, at least in awareness; and a dramatic change in a different direction, even as a reaction to this one, is possible.

As Parry notes, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights bans both torture and cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.

If we need to clarify that this ban allows no exceptions based on time or place or citizenship or any other factor, then let us clarify that and put it into our Constitution, our treaties and our statutes, with a requirement to prosecute every act of conspiracy to engage in any such behavior. The world order will not collapse, at least not in a bad way.

But there is a more serious problem, I think. Namely, murder seems to be advancing in the U.S. toolkit as a replacement for torture.

Both tools, murder and torture, produce exactly the same amount of useful intelligence. Both tools scare the hell out of people abroad and at home. Both tools serve to teach a domestic audience that certain types of people are not fully people and cannot be dealt with humanely. Both tools help to advance the further stripping away of civil liberties through fear and terror.

The goals of torture that the CIA has advanced for decades of eliminating a person's entire consciousness and identity, the mission of placing barbarians completely under control of the empire, what accomplishes this better than murder?

Look at all the hassle our government has been through trying to legalize and justify torture, not to mention the kidnappings and imprisonments necessary to engage in torture. We've seen CIA agents indicted in Italy and prosecutions of high-level Americans opened in Spain. Former officials are facing civil suits in the United States for damages.

Who needs the headaches?

The Director of National Intelligence legalized the assassination of Americans abroad, and by implication any non-Americans as well, by going to Congress in February and announcing that such crimes would henceforth be legal. Easy peasey. No fuss, no muss.

And if you want some future al-Libi to tell you that some future Iraq has scary scary weapons, don't torture him; announce that he manages the stockpile and then put a bullet in his head.

President Obama has ordered the murder of American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki. Like the innocent but tortured Abu Zubayda (innocent at least of any of the crimes he was accused of), Awlaki is now the mastermind terrorist of the universe.

And once he's dead, who's to say he wasn't? Who can demand a trail or access to documents? He'll be dead. See the beauty of it?

If the top mastermind is in Yemen, what the hell are we doing building a quagmire in Afghanistan? Don't ask.

But notice this: we have dramatically increased the use of missile strikes to assassinate in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And we have increased the use of murderous night-time raids to such an extent that we now kill more civilians in that way than we do with drones.

They're the "wrong people," or neighbors who came to help, or family members clinging to loved ones. Sometimes they're young students with their hands tied behind their backs. Accidents will happen.

But no U.S. officials' future book tours are going to be interrupted by protesters, since there's no torture involved. Civilization is on the march!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 09:32 PM
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1. Summary Executions of USA Citizens: NO ARREST, NO CHARGES, NO TRIAL, just EXECUTION. eom
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 09:36 PM
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2. k n r
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 09:38 PM
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3. The next time someone talks about 'change' we can believe in
I hope people will ask for more details. The change I see is that while we may have been engaged in these vile acts, at least there was an awareness that it was wrong, so great care was taken to hide it.

Now, we have stepped a little deeper into the mud, we are that much closer to those we used to condemn, and reaching a point that other Empires reached before their total collapse.

Excellent article from David Swanson. So few people seem even the slightest bit disturbed by it all in this country. Worse, I have seen people on this board, turn themselves into pretzels trying to defend it, because 'when a Democrat does it' there has to be a good reason for it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 09:39 PM
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4. "President Obama has ordered the murder of American citizen "
Absolutely absurd. Facts.

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 09:44 PM
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5. Lots of defenders for this on DU...
I should be surprised but I'm not anymore. The terrorists have won. We are so afraid that we have now PUBLICLY thrown out one of the most basic tenants of freedom. The right to a trial and to face your accusers.

People really want the government to flaunt this power? The power to murder someone because the government says they are guilty? Well I know that makes me secure because the government would never LIE to me.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 12:20 AM
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6. +1,000,000
Well put! We lost the moral ground when we started killing Indians in the 1600's.

And we wonder why people oppose the USA? Go figure.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 11:08 AM
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8. Any US cItizen criminal who resists arrest violently may end up killed
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 11:12 AM by emulatorloo
That's a fact, and it has been a fact for a very long time.

There is a lot of melodrama surrounding this leak.

But DU is pretty much all melodrama/hyperbole all the time now a days.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:07 AM
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7. morning kick
this deserves the visibility!
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 11:32 AM
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9. With Bush we got the pre-emptive war meme. Now we have the pre-emptive death penalty.
Power seems to cause previously rational people to run amuck. I was appalled and sickened when I heard about this policy....although it's not really new just out in the open now. imho
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 10:31 PM
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10. Good one. I agree.
The are testing to see if we are all Good Germans yet.
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