Bishop blames Jews for child molestation scandal

[Swede]

These guys just keep digging.



We're living in the Age of Globalization, and it seems that chutzpah, like latkes, isn't just for Jews any longer. Last week, retired Bishop Giacomo Babini of the Italian town of Grosseto told the Catholic Pontifex website that the Catholic pedophile scandal is being orchestrated by the "eternal enemies of Catholicism, namely the freemasons and the Jews, whose mutual entanglements are not always easy to see through… I think that it is primarily a Zionist attack, in view of its power and refinement. They do not want the church, they are its natural enemies. Deep down, historically speaking, the Jews are God-killers."

You might think that the 81-year-old Babini had already said more than enough for one day, but once some people "pop," they just can't stop. "The Holocaust was a shame for all of humanity," the good bishop told the world, "but now we have to look at it without rhetoric and with open eyes. Don't believe that Hitler was merely crazy. The truth is that the Nazis' criminal fury was provoked by the Jews' economic embezzlement, by which they choked the German economy." He concluded that the Jews' "guilt is graver than what Christ predicted would happen to them, saying 'do not cry for me, but for your own children.'"

http://www.salon.com/news/antisemitism/index.html?story=/news/feature/2010/04/12/bishop_blames_pedophilia_jews_open2010

[sakabatou]

1. Yeah, it's my fault you people diddled kids.

[roguevalley]

23. I didn't know Jesus was an eternal enemy of these fuckers. Fuck

them. And fuck them for my great grandma Minnie.

[Sanity Claws]

2. A person's true character is revealed in stress

Apparently the same is true for artificial persons like churches and corporations

[defendandprotect]

3. Whoa . . . Catholic Church back to anti-Jewish propaganda . . . desperate!!

[RKP5637]

4. These people have been drinking some pretty contaminated wine for quite

a few years...

[madmax]

5. Of course,

They killed Christ, too. :sarcasm:

[RKP5637]

7. And no doubt all of the tortures they inflicted on other people throughout the ages was

really the fault of someone else too.

[thunder rising]

10. Apparently, the ante has been upped to God himself ... so .. who we pray'n to?

I have been wanting to post a little something like:

The Jews have to be the only people that got anything out of the Financial Monsters Malfeasance (except the bankers) and that is right there live and in person ... it was WASP males.

[iris27]

6. ...

:wow:

They really are just flailing around blindly now, huh?

[Sebastian Doyle]

8. Well, the current pope WAS literally a Nazi

Maybe Ratzinger's mixing a little Mein Kampf in with the writings of Paul of Tarsus?

[pnwmom]

13. He was a child drafted into Hitler Youth. n/t

[struggle4progress]

16. That's quite inexcusable. Everyone has had ample opportunity to learn

that membership in the Hitler youth was required by German law (although the law was enforced unequally) and it was not synonymous with party membership (though the youth organization was intended to funnel children into the Party as they grew older). For the most part, obvious opponents of the Nazis did not survive the war except by leaving the country: handing out anti-Nazi leaflets or turning off the radio during a Hitler speech were likely to result in an appointment with the guillotine or the wrong end of a Nazi pistol, so the Germans mostly collapsed in a cowardly silence. That's not particularly admirable, of course, but it still requires a certain idiocy to sneer comfortably from a distance of sixty years, without understanding what would have been required from a fourteen or fifteen year old to stand up against it

[TankLV]

25. Right - you go on keep making excuses for the NAZI pope.

FAIL.

[struggle4progress]

27. Merely calling names is no substitute for knowing your history accurately.

And it's a poor substitute for intelligent politics. Personally, I couldn't care less whether you like the Pope or not: I find enough reason to disagree with him on various topics, but I think I'll try to keep my disagreements based on the facts. If you think it's clever to call him a Nazi, then of course nothing I say will change your behavior, but you won't ever learn anything from useful by indulging yourself in such fashion

[TheMadMonk]

32. Provide evidence of specific acts on Ratzinger's part that demonstrate...

...active, willfull involvment in the party. Compulsory enrolement is not synonymous with voluntary participation.

There is more than enough to damn him in his proven actions as Guardian of the Faith (or whatever it was) without harping back to an association that applied (more or less) equally to virtually every teenage kid in Germany at the time.

[cali]

33. no he was not. there are tons of good reasons to deplore Pope Ratty

A lie is not one of them.

[Boojatta]

9. Well, if Judaism had never existed, there would be no Catholic Church.

In that sense, it's possible to say that Jews and Judaism had a historical role that contributed to the scandal. On the other hand, there's nothing that can be done to change the past. What the Catholic Church can do is protest against the fact that Judaism ever existed. In particular, the Catholic Church can shut itself down.

[Odin2005]

11. Blood libel for the 21st century? assholes!

[chollybocker]

12. Holy Fuck.

'The Zionist Freemason Jews are oppressing us! Maybe even GAY Zionist Freemason Jews!'

Fucking child abusers will cling to any excuse in an attempt to rationalize their behavior. Voilà Exhibit Z.

[jmowreader]

14. Please, Bishop Babini...

please stop putting antifreeze in the sacramental wine. It's ruining your btain.

[RKP5637]

18. Or they're into the rye bread again with ergot fungus. n/t

[pnwmom]

15. This is disgusting and the Church needs to disavow this immediately. n/t

[Canuckistanian]

17. C'mon, whip out your copy of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"

You know you WANT to.....

[struggle4progress]

19. Pontifex is a notorious rightwing site that regularly claims its vicious crap came from other folks'

mouths. Such claims are regularly denied. Here's an article from the Jerusalem Post with the Italian Bishops and Babini both not only denouncing the views but also denying that there was ever an interview with Pontifex:

... One of the highest representatives of the CEI told the AJC that Babini’s comments were contrary to Catholic thinking. “These remarks are entirely contrary to the official line and mainstream thought of the Catholic Church,” Bishop Vincenzo Paglia told the AJC. In a statement, CEI denied that Babini had given the interview. “Statements I have never made about our Jewish brothers have been attributed to me,” Babini said on Monday ... http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=172996

Lots of DUers dislike the Catholic church, it seems -- but one should nevertheless have the fundamental decency to stick to the facts

[Swede]

20. There are hundreds of millions of Catholics,so there are going to be bad ones.

A lot of them are at the top right now,but things do change.

[struggle4progress]

22. Pontifex is run by rightwing liars, who happen call themselves Catholic.

They pull this kind of stunt regularly to promote their anti-semitism. There was considerable discussion here at DU when they did this back in January:

Krakow, Poland, Jan 29, 2010 / 08:11 pm (CNA).- Auxiliary Bishop Emeritus Tadeusz Pieronek of Sosnoviec, Poland, has roundly denied having referred to the Holocaust as “a Jewish invention.” Regarding what he called “a complete misunderstanding,” he explained that the Italian website “Pontifex,” which quoted him for an article this week, clearly failed to capture his meaning. “I was referring to the fact that the Jews have created the term ‘Shoah’ to define the tragedy that didn’t have a precedent in history,” specified Bishop Pieronek to ANSA news agency. “The journalist interpreted my words as if I had been saying that the Jews had invented the Shoah” ... “Everyone who knows me knows my position on the crimes of the Nazis and on the horror of what happened,” added the 75-year-old former spokesman of the Polish Bishops’ Conference, who has previously publicly condemned anti-Semitism ... http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/polish_bishop_calls_holocaust_article_complete_misunderstanding/

[HughMoran]

21. The anti-semetic old codger also blamed the Jews for forcing Hitler to have to kill them all

:mad:

This bigot needs to crawl under a rock and die.

[TankLV]

24. So all those victims were IMAGINARY, huh?

Since they're NOT - SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU PEDOPHILE HIDING BIGOTED RACIST FUCK!!!

[Walk away]

26. Gays, Jews....what next? Gypsys! Now we know he's still a Nazi. nt

[piedmont]

28. You forgot "sexy kids"

http://madmikesamerica.com/2010/04/tenerife-catholic-bishop-blames-child-abuse-on-the-children/

[Walk away]

29. You are so right...it's always the children's fault!......nt

[piedmont]

30. Clearly, they are the root of all evil. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. My only problem is when the Church goes there

things get bad.

Oh and blood libel, and a few others have come out into it's full glory.

Oy...

And for those who believed that antisemitism was dead... well that is the kind of language that led to a few progroms... and of course the biggie one, the Holocaust.