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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:44 PM Original message |
American Lung Assoc seeks to ban "e-cigarettes" |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. sigh |
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LLStarks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. This is stupid. ALA needs to pick their battles more wisely. nt |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. I love mine...people get a kick out of me puffing at my desk. |
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LLStarks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. That would look so odd... nt |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 07:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
28. It drives my wife nuts when I "smoke" in the house. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #28 |
60. Heh! And they haven't a leg to stand on |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
76. Nope. I am a big hater of 2nd hand smoke and couldn't be more thrilled for the invention of e-cigs! |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. I have an employee who reeks the whole hallway up when she |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #76 |
89. You're not the only one to whom I could have been referring |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Most people have an unconscious assumption when they see |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Lol! Next up, we get held responsible for the tricks others' brains play on them. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Where do people buy those? |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. There is a DUer who sells them. Forget who. Certain mall kiosks in my ara (DC) maybe others.. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
44. Hey there |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. And it would be you Blogslut! |
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Synnical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
91. Post as a reminder to PM you later today n/t |
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Michigan-Arizona (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. DU'er by the name of Blogslut sell's them n/t |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:54 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. These are what I bought and what Blog Slut offers. Click on her link... |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
51. Well |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 07:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Just Google them, tons of outlets. Also try looking at the e-cig forum |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #31 |
46. Actually |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
66. There are discussions on the forum about being careful you don't |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Read the FDA study |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. I haven't taken any science courses since I was at university, but that sounds |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
105. Or big tobacco |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. BAN? Why? |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. There's more to it than this...money made from ecigarettes doesn't have a big industrys backing. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Exactly! And no big tax revenue, either! nt |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. A sad fact in this country...shit doesn't get done unless someone can maximize a profit. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #19 |
54. Well... they should have thought of that when they last slapped |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Yes, they have reached diminishing returns on the cigarette tax |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. American Heart Association I can see |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
39. Do the AHA and/or ALA advocate the full-on banning of the real thing? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. It's at least as harmful to the cardiovascular system |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. It makes no sense from a health standpoint to ban the e-cigs |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. seems like an odd thing to attack. what, are they mad the companies aren't making donations or |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
9. Can anyone provide a study that shows nicotine causing "body harm"? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Exactly - no doctor has ever been able to explain why nicotine is dangerous |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
64. I'm no expert, but my first Google hit was an interesting article: |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
65. Here ya go |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #65 |
84. What's the Median Habenero and Fascist Retroflex? |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
10. i've seen it in action and TOTALLY encourages smokers to smoke more. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I got it to help with quitting, and it did, big time. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. "clinical version licensed by the FDA ... but it's ridiculously expensive, like $150+" |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
75. I'm inclined to agree, although it's true there's no quality control on the imported ones. nt |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. It cut my husband's and my smoking way down. Way down. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. btw, it's not 'smoking' when people use an e-cig |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Chain smoke to "catch up"...... |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. They do save money and a lot of people report being able to give up cigarettes altogether with them |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
25. And this is a bad thing how? |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 06:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. i'm not the one who came up with the argument that they promote LESS usage. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
81. Ok, thanks. You confirmed for me what I always thought. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #81 |
98. that's funny. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-17-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #98 |
108. I know what you said. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-17-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. well, you may have a point, it probably is irrational for me to take the fda at its word |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 06:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. so? nt |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 07:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. Bullshit. It's NOT "smoking" to use one. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 08:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. pardon my terminology. how about "using and polluting". |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:30 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Do these 'pollute' more than people who sneeze germs into the air in water vapor? |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
99. ugh, the same old tired arguments. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #32 |
56. Oh for chrissake. The amount of nicotine in the air from an e-cig is unmeasurable. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I'm a bit rusty on my chemistry |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
68. It's no more "polluting then the steam coming off a hot cup of tea or coffee..... |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #68 |
100. well, steam from a cup of tea of coffee doesn't have nicotine or diethylene glycol |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Really now, your reactions are absurd. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
55. And that's your business how??? |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
69. If they are using E-cigs why the heck would you care? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. She cares because the smokers are being insolent by being seen vaping! |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
101. because i don't want to breathe e-cig pollution any more than regular cig pollution |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Okay now you just look silly |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
11. Yep. The ALA should back off here. |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
13. That's lame. I'm completely in support of smoking bans because the smoke can not be contained to |
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Dr Morbius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
16. They should ban fat people from wearing thongs. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
18. I tried them. The Blu brand. They didn't work for me. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. "Natural Gas... has an exemption from the clean water act. Where are these goody-goodies for that?" |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #18 |
57. Have you gained any weight on the Chantix? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
79. Umm. I've only been on it for 3 weeks, so not yet. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
30. No business banning these while the real thing is legal |
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Redbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
33. ALA general rationale |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #33 |
50. It's ridiculous |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
35. jeebus. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #35 |
48. PM me |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
72. Just do it. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
36. BAN MORE THINGS! |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
40. You can also get e-cigs with NO-nicotine |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
73. And you know what? I really can't say that I taste a difference |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. That's what I understand from |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #83 |
95. My initial problem with using e-cigs to quit smoking is that |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
42. It would be like banning hybrids not Hummers because Prius emit less toxins. n/t |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
77. Exactly. n/t |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
52. Groan... |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #52 |
78. Well, they have the same legal right to lobby as any other group. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
53. ugh...so what if people want to use them as an alternative to smoking? |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
61. Long suspected - it's some sort of pearl clutching thing about how it LOOKS |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. "pearl clutching" Perfect description! nt |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Yes, when I want to impress a lady, I stick a phallic object in my mouth. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
62. It's like MADD. |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
70. Ridiculous! They should use their energy (and their money) |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
74. Just so people understand--nicotine is the most dangerous chemical in cigarettes. |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Yeah, but if it's not coming near my lungs like regular 2nd-hand cigarette smoke does, |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #74 |
86. Really? I thought carbon monoxide was. |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. So they should get rid of the gum, the patches |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. No way. I'm not looking to ban anything. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #74 |
90. Nicotine is not the most dangerous chemical in cigarettes |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. This is what I thought as well. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. None of those 600 chemicals are the primary cause of you sucking on the thing in the first place... |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. Well, to keep it square, you made the statement that nicotine |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #97 |
106. I said it was the most addictive but it is not the most damaging chemical in them |
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Digit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-10 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
107. You can also go to the Vapers Forum to learn more |
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